@dontemple
25I'm trying to save this kitten who lost her leg in a car engine. Please help us pay for her surgery!
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2019/08/08 04:40:24
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| body | Congratulations @dontemple! You received a personal award! <table><tr><td>https://steemitimages.com/70x70/http://steemitboard.com/@dontemple/birthday3.png</td><td>Happy Birthday! - You are on the Steem blockchain for 3 years!</td></tr></table> <sub>_You can view [your badges on your Steem Board](https://steemitboard.com/@dontemple) and compare to others on the [Steem Ranking](https://steemitboard.com/ranking/index.php?name=dontemple)_</sub> ###### [Vote for @Steemitboard as a witness](https://v2.steemconnect.com/sign/account-witness-vote?witness=steemitboard&approve=1) to get one more award and increased upvotes! |
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2018/01/22 04:20:12
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2018/01/22 03:33:57
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| permlink | re-clixmoney-re-dontemple-26rddx-hawaii-missilegate-what-it-means-for-us-20180122t033354994z |
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| body | Wait. Is resteeming just sharing others' posts? |
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2018/01/22 03:31:24
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2018/01/22 00:30:39
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| body | Hello, please follow the rules of the group [Steemit for Resteem ↕](https://steemit.com/steemit/@clixmoney/resteem-to-steemit-is-not-free-anymore-0-1-steem-or-sbd-to-post-if-you-resteem-0-5-without-resteem) and you will be resteemed by the most active members in the group. You have to resteem a post from the group before you post yours there. |
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}dontemplepublished a new post: 26rddx-hawaii-missilegate-what-it-means-for-us2018/01/21 10:31:42
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2018/01/21 10:31:42
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| title | Hawaii Missilegate: What It Means For Us |
| body | <a href="http://s1250.photobucket.com/user/DonTemple/media/MissileGate_zpszvsunmak.jpg.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i1250.photobucket.com/albums/hh539/DonTemple/MissileGate_zpszvsunmak.jpg" border="0" alt="Missilegate photo MissileGate_zpszvsunmak.jpg"/></a> We’re not ready. Last week Saturday morning I woke up at five to catch the bus to work, since I started at eight. Less than ten minutes after I clocked in, my girlfriend sent me a screenshot of the infamous mass text: "BALLISTIC MISSILE THREAT INBOUND TO HAWAII. SEEK IMMEDIATE SHELTER. THIS IS NOT A DRILL." I hadn't gotten the notification on my phone, probably because the state of Hawaii knows they can't scare me with anti-Trump propaganda. I wasn't worried. I trust my president and our military. I didn't think for one second that Our President Trump would let us get attacked. As often as the news lies about him and misconstrues what he says and does, every move he makes is in OUR best interest; he really does put America first, unlike our past several presidents. But I wanted to ensure that my coworkers felt safe and were well-prepared, just in case the worst possibility happened. Right after she sent the text, she called me to make sure I got it. I was standing in the parking lot where I worked: a car dealership in Waipahu, not five miles Northwest of Pearl Harbor and around the same distance South of Wheeler Army Airfield in Wahiawa, two of the three most likely targets for an attack. My coworkers were also all on their phones talking to their families, looking confused and scared. I told her to tape up the window to our bedroom like we do for hurricanes (an annual event in Hawaii, we tape up our windows to keep the glass more or less intact during high winds, so they don’t blast apart and rip through our houses) and hide with the pets against the wall under a thick blanket. Then I made everyone who was standing around the parking lot with me walk to the safest area close by, which was a concrete hallway between the parking lot and the garage bay where the mechanics work. We all talked about what to do in a missile attack: stay away from glass, stay away from cars, find someplace secure, indoors. Vehicles are dangerous since they have glass and small parts, thin metal that can bend and rip you apart, and they’re not bolted to the ground. A parking lot is a mine field during a bomb. Huddled together in the tight concrete hallway, we theorized about whether or not there really was a missile coming. We talked about where our families were, if they’d be safe. In the background, the new missile siren blared. My boss locked up and told people they could either seek shelter at the big warehouse down the road or go home. I took the time to clock out and gather my things. My coworker invited me to his house, since I ride the bus and the busses probably weren’t running anyway; if anything, I wouldn’t have to wait at a bus stop for 30 minutes. Later I found out the busses were kicking riders off at the nearest bus stops and heading straight back to their depots, which could be a death sentence to passengers. A lady I work with was crying. People were having anxiety attacks. My friend took me to his house in the Palisades, a neighborhood up in the mountains above Pearl City, which was about a 10 minute drive. Later I learned that, had there been a real bomb, we would’ve vaporized on the road. When we got there, we watched the news with his family and their little fluffy dog. I wondered out loud how long it would take a missile from North Korea to reach us; his father-in-law answered without looking away from the TV. “72 minutes,” he said with confidence. Turns out he was wrong; it would only take 20. We were relieved to hear that it was a false alarm. It had been 38 minutes from the time the alert was sent out until the new text came to announce that there was no missile. I never got either text. The only text I got was my boss telling us all to return to work; although I told everyone to wait it out just in case, since oftentimes there are drills or some sort of false alarm before false flags, and it would be a good habit to instill in people to be more cautious. We were thinking there’d be lawsuits. We figured some people might have had heart attacks, which actually did happen. There was at least one heart attack death that I know of. His father-in-law was worried that people might’ve shot themselves to avoid the terror of death by radiation, fire, and debris. These were all things I didn’t think of, since I was so sure of our safety. Some things that actually happened during those 38 minutes—again, to reiterate, I was never sent a notification, so if I were alone somewhere I’d never know to take shelter if a missile really did come—people were running red lights, there were wrecks, 911 had to turn down calls because their lines were flooded, stores closed and kicked out customers, busses kicked riders off where they were (and some bus stops are in the middle of nowhere, some miles between any shelter). People were also doing end-of-the-world things, like letting their kids drink or expressing their love to their crush, calling their loved ones to tell them goodbye. In fact, someone's probably writing a script right now about a person confessing their secret love to another during the panic. But the main thing that really got me was just how unprepared we are. I’ve known since the first day I moved here that people in Hawaii generally aren’t the most… self-reliant, shall we say. Being a blue state, people are more inclined to expect government help, rather than take matters into their own hands to protect themselves. That’s why it’s illegal to carry guns here, or to even own a bulletproof vest. The downside of this is that people really don't know what to do in an emergency scenario like this one. They would rather drive 20 minutes to see their families than to wait it out in the nearest safe place and see their loved ones after. What's more preferable; to survive in a separate place than your family and reunite later, or to die trying to get to them? The road is the WORST place to be when a bomb goes off! Like I said before, cars aren't bolted down, they have loose parts made from metal and glass and toxic fluids, and it's outside. It takes a missile 20 minutes to fly from North Korea to Hawaii. At best, it takes five minutes for us to notice it, so we have 15 minutes until impact from the point of warning; assuming the warning comes instantly. People here didn't even know how much time they had, or where to go. There were plenty of people who thought it would take a missile two hours to reach us! I'm going to go over what should've happened, how we can better prepare ourselves, and then a few theories on WHY it happened. The first changes necessary for ensuring the maximum amount of people survive a bomb are at the state level. The next time there's a warning, the text should actually tell us what our window of time is. The text should've specified, "You have 15 minutes until impact." This is a simple change. That way people know to seek shelter immediately instead of driving across town to grab their kids from school or go home to their families. They acted as if they had an hour to get to safety, but really they would've had maybe 10 minutes. Knowing how much time you have affects your choices. I knew when my girlfriend called me that there'd be no time for her to catch the bus anywhere, so I told her to stay home. Our house is protected by a series of mountains from where the targets are. Public parks, also, could have cement buildings that are underground or partially underground for people to hide. The mountain ranges that take up most of the island are unused, why not tunnel inside them to build shelters? They could build them without even harming the precious view. Also, I'm not one for socialized healthcare, but what if the government were to issue out hazmat suits for the citizens of high-risk (of nuclear attack) locations? These changes are on the government, but the majority of changes need to happen from civilians. Businesses, public services, and people here need to change. For example, the bus kicking people off en masse. Sure, being on a bus you're not tied down, you're surrounded by big glass windows, and you're on the open road; but the busses could have at least taken the riders to the nearest shelter. Public schools and libraries are designated bomb shelters here, and they took in people seeking safety. If a bus dropped off people in a place where they would die instead of taking them to the nearest shelter where they could live, there could be a huge lawsuit on their hands for being responsible for those deaths. The same applies for Walmart, Costco, and Sam's Club. At least two of those places shut their doors and kicked everyone out, including their own employees. People were hiding their kids in sewers because Walmart turned them down. If a real bomb had dropped, then by the time they'd shut everything down, gotten the last customer out, and locked their doors, it'd be too late. Plus, if a lot of customers were kicked out of Walmart, or Sam's Club, a bomb hit and those customers died but Sam's Club or Walmart survived, there'd be a class action lawsuit against the corporations. The better option would be to close their doors, announce on the intercom for everyone to please calmly head to the center of the store (or wherever the safest part of the building is) and wait it out. Any stealing would far outweigh the cost of a lawsuit later. Businesses that didn't have good hiding places should've directed customers and employees to the nearest shelter. And all buildings that qualify, like Sam's Club and Walmart, should be deemed bomb shelters, and maybe given a tax write-off for it. Or, the whole market incentive to avoid lawsuits, whatever your flavor. The upside to this is the ridiculous potential profit for Hawaiian businesses. Home improvement companies could make a killing with installing bomb shelters at people’s homes. They could range from basic storage bunkers to self-sustained luxury shelters, stocked with hazmat suits, rations, etc. Energy companies like solar, wind, and coal could build kits for these shelters. Water companies could install all-new plumbing in them. Someone could make “bomb bags", some tough material backpack with emergency gear like a gas mask, hazmat suit, condensed protein bars, bulletproof vests (illegal in HI, but there could be exceptions), collapsible trench shovels, hatchets, first-aid gear, etc. The effects of bunkers going widespread could be tremendous; it could establish permanent underground cities free of bomb threats like in *SPOILER ALERT* Hunger Games, where the Capital stopped bombing District 13 because it wasn’t effective. And the cities could be something simple, like a network of underground tunnels between shelters, or to a central one. Hell, there could even be an app for sharing bomb shelters, or finding the nearest one. If we had this, then North Korea’s threats wouldn't be so effective, at least not to civilians. Pearl Harbor happened almost 80 years ago. It's about time Hawaii built more bomb shelters, both privately and publicly. It's ridiculous not to. So why was the alert sent? The official story is that some employee made a mistake, that during a shift change someone pressed the wrong button. That the test was only meant to be sent out amongst the units running it, not half the state. I don't buy that. My first thought when my girlfriend called me was that it really WAS a drill disguised as a real bomb, so people would practice what to do for real. People don’t react to drills properly like they would in a real situation. Look at the episode of The Office where they had a fire drill disguised as a real fire- there’s a Dwight at the DOD. People in Hawaii generally like to go to the beach and relax. If they know something is a drill, they won't let it interfere with their plans. But if they think it's real, they'll see how they actually handle themselves when they believe a bomb is coming. I also believe it was initiated for the state to observe the reaction of the people here, so they'd know how to handle us. Although I could see how there'd be a possibility for an accident. It's Pascal's Wager: better to set the alarm and it's fake, than to not set it and it's real. I doubt there's too many fail-safes for the alert button, because a 20 minute flight time and a minimum of five minutes for us to detect it, leaves us with a maximum potential of 15 minutes at best (I'd honestly give it 10, since there's no way to know how long it'd take for those who detect it to tell those who send out the alert, and for the alert to send to all the recipients) to get to safety. I'd rather the alert button guy have an itchy button hand than a timid one. Failsafes belong with those in charge of sending bombs, not with those who warn populations against them. There was once a false alarm during the Cold War with Russia. A Russian man, Stanislav Petrov, was one of the two men assigned the responsibility of sending a retaliatory nuclear bomb to the US. When they had a false alarm that the US had sent a nuke to Russia, he hesitated; he didn't turn the key. He is now known as the man who single-handedly saved the world from nuclear war. In some occupations, hesitation is a virtue. I've heard some other theories, of course. It could've been a disgruntled employee. It could've just been old equipment, or someone really just made a mistake; wouldn't be the first time someone in the military made one. It could've been a hack; wouldn't be the first time for that, either. Of course there are more unsettling theories. It's possible that North Korea really DID shoot a missile at us, but it failed mid-flight. Again, that wouldn't be a first. It could've been shot down by an advanced plane of ours that the military doesn't want us to know about yet, like the TR-3B. And if they did shoot it down, they might deny it since they aren't ready to go to war yet for some reason, and admitting that we were shot at would inevitably lead to war. People in Hawaii would freak out if they knew a missile was shot at us, even if our military stopped it. And why would North Korea shoot at us now, right after their peace talks with South Korea? It seems an odd move for them, since we are allies with South Korea. "We'll befriend you, but we're also going to kill those guys who have protected you from us since the 50s," is kind of a mixed message. They did just shoot one over Japan, but that was most likely as a show of force. If they shot one towards us, it'd probably be just to show us that they can. The missiles might not even have warheads; if North Korea pretends to have entire cities where it doesn't, then who's to say they don't pretend to have warheads where they don't? But we do know North Korea has nukes, because the US gave them nukes. And other countries gave them nukes. And we all gave them money. The reason North Korea hates Trump so much is that, unlike other countries and US presidents in the past, he refuses to give them even the lint from his pocket. He understands the most basic rule of war: YOU DON'T ARM YOUR ENEMY. Trump can either continue appeasing our unstable enemy, making them stronger and allowing them to become an even bigger threat, or he can stand up to them the way previous presidents weren't able to do. Imagine you're the new kid at school, and there's a bully on the playground who runs around threatening all the other kids. Everyone gives him money, and some even give him weapons. What do you do? Do you also give him money and weapons, or do you threaten him back? Well if you're bigger and stronger than he is, you don't back down from him or give in to his demands. Trump is that new kid. He's not just making America great again, but he's making the whole world great. By standing up to North Korea, he stands up for everyone, even those poor souls in North Korea. And hey, if you don't see the logic in that, chew on this: Trump owns stake in several properties in Waikiki, namely hotels. If you don’t think he’s a good president, at least understand that he won’t let his own properties get destroyed. As Thomas Sowell said, "It is hard to imagine a more stupid or more dangerous way of making decisions than by putting those decisions in the hands of people who pay no price for being wrong." If Trump is wrong and gets us bombed, he loses millions of dollars. Previous presidents didn't have that problem. Why did Bush allow 9-11-01 to happen? Well, did he own any property in New York? I think that if Trump were president then, he might've looked at our foreign policy and defense systems and think, "Gee, I should make sure I don't get any of my hotels bombed." Trump isn't the type to partake in a false flag attack either. He's too honest; in fact, that's why he's so unpopular. He will boldly declare what others are too timid to subtly imply. I really hope there are no lawsuits over this. I'd hate for there to be any future hesitation in the minds of those responsible with warning us about an attack. 15 minutes to get to safety is a lot better than 10. I think Trump is doing the right thing, being hard on North Korea. I think Hawaii is safe. Trump will make sure America is protected. I trust his judgment and I trust our armed forces. I don't want nuclear war with North Korea. Nukes should be owned as a deterrent, but not used. Hawaii needs to make some changes though, just in case Oprah wins in 2020. If that happens, we'll need a bomb shelter in every backyard. If you like what I write, please like, subscribe, upvote, and share. I'm blogging again to raise money for my kitten's surgery; she lost her leg and part of her jaw in a car engine. If you'd like to donate, follow the link in my description. #missilegate #hawaii #oahu #trump #maga #northkorea #missile #oprah #america #saveripley #ripleyremarkable #istandwithripley |
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"body": "<a href=\"http://s1250.photobucket.com/user/DonTemple/media/MissileGate_zpszvsunmak.jpg.html\" target=\"_blank\"><img src=\"http://i1250.photobucket.com/albums/hh539/DonTemple/MissileGate_zpszvsunmak.jpg\" border=\"0\" alt=\"Missilegate photo MissileGate_zpszvsunmak.jpg\"/></a>\n\nWe’re not ready.\n \n Last week Saturday morning I woke up at five to catch the bus to work, since I started at eight. Less than ten minutes after I clocked in, my girlfriend sent me a screenshot of the infamous mass text: \"BALLISTIC MISSILE THREAT INBOUND TO HAWAII. SEEK IMMEDIATE SHELTER. THIS IS NOT A DRILL.\" I hadn't gotten the notification on my phone, probably because the state of Hawaii knows they can't scare me with anti-Trump propaganda. \n I wasn't worried. I trust my president and our military. I didn't think for one second that Our President Trump would let us get attacked. As often as the news lies about him and misconstrues what he says and does, every move he makes is in OUR best interest; he really does put America first, unlike our past several presidents. But I wanted to ensure that my coworkers felt safe and were well-prepared, just in case the worst possibility happened. \n Right after she sent the text, she called me to make sure I got it. I was standing in the parking lot where I worked: a car dealership in Waipahu, not five miles Northwest of Pearl Harbor and around the same distance South of Wheeler Army Airfield in Wahiawa, two of the three most likely targets for an attack. My coworkers were also all on their phones talking to their families, looking confused and scared. \n I told her to tape up the window to our bedroom like we do for hurricanes (an annual event in Hawaii, we tape up our windows to keep the glass more or less intact during high winds, so they don’t blast apart and rip through our houses) and hide with the pets against the wall under a thick blanket. Then I made everyone who was standing around the parking lot with me walk to the safest area close by, which was a concrete hallway between the parking lot and the garage bay where the mechanics work. We all talked about what to do in a missile attack: stay away from glass, stay away from cars, find someplace secure, indoors. Vehicles are dangerous since they have glass and small parts, thin metal that can bend and rip you apart, and they’re not bolted to the ground. A parking lot is a mine field during a bomb.\n Huddled together in the tight concrete hallway, we theorized about whether or not there really was a missile coming. We talked about where our families were, if they’d be safe. In the background, the new missile siren blared.\n My boss locked up and told people they could either seek shelter at the big warehouse down the road or go home. I took the time to clock out and gather my things. My coworker invited me to his house, since I ride the bus and the busses probably weren’t running anyway; if anything, I wouldn’t have to wait at a bus stop for 30 minutes. Later I found out the busses were kicking riders off at the nearest bus stops and heading straight back to their depots, which could be a death sentence to passengers.\n A lady I work with was crying. People were having anxiety attacks. My friend took me to his house in the Palisades, a neighborhood up in the mountains above Pearl City, which was about a 10 minute drive. Later I learned that, had there been a real bomb, we would’ve vaporized on the road. \n When we got there, we watched the news with his family and their little fluffy dog. I wondered out loud how long it would take a missile from North Korea to reach us; his father-in-law answered without looking away from the TV. “72 minutes,” he said with confidence. Turns out he was wrong; it would only take 20.\n We were relieved to hear that it was a false alarm. It had been 38 minutes from the time the alert was sent out until the new text came to announce that there was no missile. I never got either text. The only text I got was my boss telling us all to return to work; although I told everyone to wait it out just in case, since oftentimes there are drills or some sort of false alarm before false flags, and it would be a good habit to instill in people to be more cautious.\n We were thinking there’d be lawsuits. We figured some people might have had heart attacks, which actually did happen. There was at least one heart attack death that I know of. His father-in-law was worried that people might’ve shot themselves to avoid the terror of death by radiation, fire, and debris. These were all things I didn’t think of, since I was so sure of our safety.\n Some things that actually happened during those 38 minutes—again, to reiterate, I was never sent a notification, so if I were alone somewhere I’d never know to take shelter if a missile really did come—people were running red lights, there were wrecks, 911 had to turn down calls because their lines were flooded, stores closed and kicked out customers, busses kicked riders off where they were (and some bus stops are in the middle of nowhere, some miles between any shelter). People were also doing end-of-the-world things, like letting their kids drink or expressing their love to their crush, calling their loved ones to tell them goodbye. In fact, someone's probably writing a script right now about a person confessing their secret love to another during the panic.\n But the main thing that really got me was just how unprepared we are. I’ve known since the first day I moved here that people in Hawaii generally aren’t the most… self-reliant, shall we say. Being a blue state, people are more inclined to expect government help, rather than take matters into their own hands to protect themselves. That’s why it’s illegal to carry guns here, or to even own a bulletproof vest.\t\n The downside of this is that people really don't know what to do in an emergency scenario like this one. They would rather drive 20 minutes to see their families than to wait it out in the nearest safe place and see their loved ones after. What's more preferable; to survive in a separate place than your family and reunite later, or to die trying to get to them? The road is the WORST place to be when a bomb goes off! Like I said before, cars aren't bolted down, they have loose parts made from metal and glass and toxic fluids, and it's outside.\n It takes a missile 20 minutes to fly from North Korea to Hawaii. At best, it takes five minutes for us to notice it, so we have 15 minutes until impact from the point of warning; assuming the warning comes instantly. People here didn't even know how much time they had, or where to go. There were plenty of people who thought it would take a missile two hours to reach us! I'm going to go over what should've happened, how we can better prepare ourselves, and then a few theories on WHY it happened. \n The first changes necessary for ensuring the maximum amount of people survive a bomb are at the state level. The next time there's a warning, the text should actually tell us what our window of time is. The text should've specified, \"You have 15 minutes until impact.\" This is a simple change. That way people know to seek shelter immediately instead of driving across town to grab their kids from school or go home to their families. They acted as if they had an hour to get to safety, but really they would've had maybe 10 minutes. Knowing how much time you have affects your choices. I knew when my girlfriend called me that there'd be no time for her to catch the bus anywhere, so I told her to stay home. Our house is protected by a series of mountains from where the targets are. \n Public parks, also, could have cement buildings that are underground or partially underground for people to hide. The mountain ranges that take up most of the island are unused, why not tunnel inside them to build shelters? They could build them without even harming the precious view. Also, I'm not one for socialized healthcare, but what if the government were to issue out hazmat suits for the citizens of high-risk (of nuclear attack) locations? These changes are on the government, but the majority of changes need to happen from civilians. \n Businesses, public services, and people here need to change. For example, the bus kicking people off en masse. Sure, being on a bus you're not tied down, you're surrounded by big glass windows, and you're on the open road; but the busses could have at least taken the riders to the nearest shelter. Public schools and libraries are designated bomb shelters here, and they took in people seeking safety. If a bus dropped off people in a place where they would die instead of taking them to the nearest shelter where they could live, there could be a huge lawsuit on their hands for being responsible for those deaths. The same applies for Walmart, Costco, and Sam's Club. At least two of those places shut their doors and kicked everyone out, including their own employees. People were hiding their kids in sewers because Walmart turned them down. If a real bomb had dropped, then by the time they'd shut everything down, gotten the last customer out, and locked their doors, it'd be too late. Plus, if a lot of customers were kicked out of Walmart, or Sam's Club, a bomb hit and those customers died but Sam's Club or Walmart survived, there'd be a class action lawsuit against the corporations. The better option would be to close their doors, announce on the intercom for everyone to please calmly head to the center of the store (or wherever the safest part of the building is) and wait it out. Any stealing would far outweigh the cost of a lawsuit later. Businesses that didn't have good hiding places should've directed customers and employees to the nearest shelter. And all buildings that qualify, like Sam's Club and Walmart, should be deemed bomb shelters, and maybe given a tax write-off for it. Or, the whole market incentive to avoid lawsuits, whatever your flavor. \n The upside to this is the ridiculous potential profit for Hawaiian businesses. Home improvement companies could make a killing with installing bomb shelters at people’s homes. They could range from basic storage bunkers to self-sustained luxury shelters, stocked with hazmat suits, rations, etc. Energy companies like solar, wind, and coal could build kits for these shelters. Water companies could install all-new plumbing in them. Someone could make “bomb bags\", some tough material backpack with emergency gear like a gas mask, hazmat suit, condensed protein bars, bulletproof vests (illegal in HI, but there could be exceptions), collapsible trench shovels, hatchets, first-aid gear, etc. The effects of bunkers going widespread could be tremendous; it could establish permanent underground cities free of bomb threats like in *SPOILER ALERT* Hunger Games, where the Capital stopped bombing District 13 because it wasn’t effective. And the cities could be something simple, like a network of underground tunnels between shelters, or to a central one. Hell, there could even be an app for sharing bomb shelters, or finding the nearest one. If we had this, then North Korea’s threats wouldn't be so effective, at least not to civilians. \n Pearl Harbor happened almost 80 years ago. It's about time Hawaii built more bomb shelters, both privately and publicly. It's ridiculous not to. \n So why was the alert sent? The official story is that some employee made a mistake, that during a shift change someone pressed the wrong button. That the test was only meant to be sent out amongst the units running it, not half the state. I don't buy that.\n My first thought when my girlfriend called me was that it really WAS a drill disguised as a real bomb, so people would practice what to do for real. People don’t react to drills properly like they would in a real situation. Look at the episode of The Office where they had a fire drill disguised as a real fire- there’s a Dwight at the DOD. People in Hawaii generally like to go to the beach and relax. If they know something is a drill, they won't let it interfere with their plans. But if they think it's real, they'll see how they actually handle themselves when they believe a bomb is coming. I also believe it was initiated for the state to observe the reaction of the people here, so they'd know how to handle us. \n Although I could see how there'd be a possibility for an accident. It's Pascal's Wager: better to set the alarm and it's fake, than to not set it and it's real. I doubt there's too many fail-safes for the alert button, because a 20 minute flight time and a minimum of five minutes for us to detect it, leaves us with a maximum potential of 15 minutes at best (I'd honestly give it 10, since there's no way to know how long it'd take for those who detect it to tell those who send out the alert, and for the alert to send to all the recipients) to get to safety. I'd rather the alert button guy have an itchy button hand than a timid one. Failsafes belong with those in charge of sending bombs, not with those who warn populations against them.\n There was once a false alarm during the Cold War with Russia. A Russian man, Stanislav Petrov, was one of the two men assigned the responsibility of sending a retaliatory nuclear bomb to the US. When they had a false alarm that the US had sent a nuke to Russia, he hesitated; he didn't turn the key. He is now known as the man who single-handedly saved the world from nuclear war. In some occupations, hesitation is a virtue. \n I've heard some other theories, of course. It could've been a disgruntled employee. It could've just been old equipment, or someone really just made a mistake; wouldn't be the first time someone in the military made one. It could've been a hack; wouldn't be the first time for that, either. \n Of course there are more unsettling theories. It's possible that North Korea really DID shoot a missile at us, but it failed mid-flight. Again, that wouldn't be a first. It could've been shot down by an advanced plane of ours that the military doesn't want us to know about yet, like the TR-3B. And if they did shoot it down, they might deny it since they aren't ready to go to war yet for some reason, and admitting that we were shot at would inevitably lead to war. People in Hawaii would freak out if they knew a missile was shot at us, even if our military stopped it. \n And why would North Korea shoot at us now, right after their peace talks with South Korea? It seems an odd move for them, since we are allies with South Korea. \"We'll befriend you, but we're also going to kill those guys who have protected you from us since the 50s,\" is kind of a mixed message. They did just shoot one over Japan, but that was most likely as a show of force. If they shot one towards us, it'd probably be just to show us that they can. The missiles might not even have warheads; if North Korea pretends to have entire cities where it doesn't, then who's to say they don't pretend to have warheads where they don't? \n But we do know North Korea has nukes, because the US gave them nukes. And other countries gave them nukes. And we all gave them money. \n The reason North Korea hates Trump so much is that, unlike other countries and US presidents in the past, he refuses to give them even the lint from his pocket. He understands the most basic rule of war: YOU DON'T ARM YOUR ENEMY. Trump can either continue appeasing our unstable enemy, making them stronger and allowing them to become an even bigger threat, or he can stand up to them the way previous presidents weren't able to do. \n Imagine you're the new kid at school, and there's a bully on the playground who runs around threatening all the other kids. Everyone gives him money, and some even give him weapons. What do you do? Do you also give him money and weapons, or do you threaten him back? Well if you're bigger and stronger than he is, you don't back down from him or give in to his demands. Trump is that new kid. He's not just making America great again, but he's making the whole world great. By standing up to North Korea, he stands up for everyone, even those poor souls in North Korea. \n And hey, if you don't see the logic in that, chew on this: Trump owns stake in several properties in Waikiki, namely hotels. If you don’t think he’s a good president, at least understand that he won’t let his own properties get destroyed. As Thomas Sowell said, \"It is hard to imagine a more stupid or more dangerous way of making decisions than by putting those decisions in the hands of people who pay no price for being wrong.\" If Trump is wrong and gets us bombed, he loses millions of dollars. Previous presidents didn't have that problem. Why did Bush allow 9-11-01 to happen? Well, did he own any property in New York? I think that if Trump were president then, he might've looked at our foreign policy and defense systems and think, \"Gee, I should make sure I don't get any of my hotels bombed.\"\n Trump isn't the type to partake in a false flag attack either. He's too honest; in fact, that's why he's so unpopular. He will boldly declare what others are too timid to subtly imply. \n I really hope there are no lawsuits over this. I'd hate for there to be any future hesitation in the minds of those responsible with warning us about an attack. 15 minutes to get to safety is a lot better than 10. I think Trump is doing the right thing, being hard on North Korea. I think Hawaii is safe. Trump will make sure America is protected. I trust his judgment and I trust our armed forces. I don't want nuclear war with North Korea. Nukes should be owned as a deterrent, but not used. Hawaii needs to make some changes though, just in case Oprah wins in 2020. If that happens, we'll need a bomb shelter in every backyard. \n\nIf you like what I write, please like, subscribe, upvote, and share. I'm blogging again to raise money for my kitten's surgery; she lost her leg and part of her jaw in a car engine. If you'd like to donate, follow the link in my description. \n \n#missilegate #hawaii #oahu #trump #maga #northkorea #missile #oprah #america #saveripley #ripleyremarkable #istandwithripley",
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| body | <a href="http://s1250.photobucket.com/user/DonTemple/media/MissileGate_zpszvsunmak.jpg.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i1250.photobucket.com/albums/hh539/DonTemple/MissileGate_zpszvsunmak.jpg" border="0" alt="Missilegate photo MissileGate_zpszvsunmak.jpg"/></a> We’re not ready. Last week Saturday morning I woke up at five to catch the bus to work, since I started at eight. Less than ten minutes after I clocked in, my girlfriend sent me a screenshot of the infamous mass text: "BALLISTIC MISSILE THREAT INBOUND TO HAWAII. SEEK IMMEDIATE SHELTER. THIS IS NOT A DRILL." I hadn't gotten the notification on my phone, probably because the state of Hawaii knows they can't scare me with anti-Trump propaganda. I wasn't worried. I trust my president and our military. I didn't think for one second that Our President Trump would let us get attacked. As often as the news lies about him and misconstrues what he says and does, every move he makes is in OUR best interest; he really does put America first, unlike our past several presidents. But I wanted to ensure that my coworkers felt safe and were well-prepared, just in case the worst possibility happened. Right after she sent the text, she called me to make sure I got it. I was standing in the parking lot where I worked: a car dealership in Waipahu, not five miles Northwest of Pearl Harbor and around the same distance South of Wheeler Army Airfield in Wahiawa, two of the three most likely targets for an attack. My coworkers were also all on their phones talking to their families, looking confused and scared. I told her to tape up the window to our bedroom like we do for hurricanes (an annual event in Hawaii, we tape up our windows to keep the glass more or less intact during high winds, so they don’t blast apart and rip through our houses) and hide with the pets against the wall under a thick blanket. Then I made everyone who was standing around the parking lot with me walk to the safest area close by, which was a concrete hallway between the parking lot and the garage bay where the mechanics work. We all talked about what to do in a missile attack: stay away from glass, stay away from cars, find someplace secure, indoors. Vehicles are dangerous since they have glass and small parts, thin metal that can bend and rip you apart, and they’re not bolted to the ground. A parking lot is a mine field during a bomb. Huddled together in the tight concrete hallway, we theorized about whether or not there really was a missile coming. We talked about where our families were, if they’d be safe. In the background, the new missile siren blared. My boss locked up and told people they could either seek shelter at the big warehouse down the road or go home. I took the time to clock out and gather my things. My coworker invited me to his house, since I ride the bus and the busses probably weren’t running anyway; if anything, I wouldn’t have to wait at a bus stop for 30 minutes. Later I found out the busses were kicking riders off at the nearest bus stops and heading straight back to their depots, which could be a death sentence to passengers. A lady I work with was crying. People were having anxiety attacks. My friend took me to his house in the Palisades, a neighborhood up in the mountains above Pearl City, which was about a 10 minute drive. Later I learned that, had there been a real bomb, we would’ve vaporized on the road. When we got there, we watched the news with his family and their little fluffy dog. I wondered out loud how long it would take a missile from North Korea to reach us; his father-in-law answered without looking away from the TV. “72 minutes,” he said with confidence. Turns out he was wrong; it would only take 20. We were relieved to hear that it was a false alarm. It had been 38 minutes from the time the alert was sent out until the new text came to announce that there was no missile. I never got either text. The only text I got was my boss telling us all to return to work; although I told everyone to wait it out just in case, since oftentimes there are drills or some sort of false alarm before false flags, and it would be a good habit to instill in people to be more cautious. We were thinking there’d be lawsuits. We figured some people might have had heart attacks, which actually did happen. There was at least one heart attack death that I know of. His father-in-law was worried that people might’ve shot themselves to avoid the terror of death by radiation, fire, and debris. These were all things I didn’t think of, since I was so sure of our safety. Some things that actually happened during those 38 minutes—again, to reiterate, I was never sent a notification, so if I were alone somewhere I’d never know to take shelter if a missile really did come—people were running red lights, there were wrecks, 911 had to turn down calls because their lines were flooded, stores closed and kicked out customers, busses kicked riders off where they were (and some bus stops are in the middle of nowhere, some miles between any shelter). People were also doing end-of-the-world things, like letting their kids drink or expressing their love to their crush, calling their loved ones to tell them goodbye. In fact, someone's probably writing a script right now about a person confessing their secret love to another during the panic. But the main thing that really got me was just how unprepared we are. I’ve known since the first day I moved here that people in Hawaii generally aren’t the most… self-reliant, shall we say. Being a blue state, people are more inclined to expect government help, rather than take matters into their own hands to protect themselves. That’s why it’s illegal to carry guns here, or to even own a bulletproof vest. The downside of this is that people really don't know what to do in an emergency scenario like this one. They would rather drive 20 minutes to see their families than to wait it out in the nearest safe place and see their loved ones after. What's more preferable; to survive in a separate place than your family and reunite later, or to die trying to get to them? The road is the WORST place to be when a bomb goes off! Like I said before, cars aren't bolted down, they have loose parts made from metal and glass and toxic fluids, and it's outside. It takes a missile 20 minutes to fly from North Korea to Hawaii. At best, it takes five minutes for us to notice it, so we have 15 minutes until impact from the point of warning; assuming the warning comes instantly. People here didn't even know how much time they had, or where to go. There were plenty of people who thought it would take a missile two hours to reach us! I'm going to go over what should've happened, how we can better prepare ourselves, and then a few theories on WHY it happened. The first changes necessary for ensuring the maximum amount of people survive a bomb are at the state level. The next time there's a warning, the text should actually tell us what our window of time is. The text should've specified, "You have 15 minutes until impact." This is a simple change. That way people know to seek shelter immediately instead of driving across town to grab their kids from school or go home to their families. They acted as if they had an hour to get to safety, but really they would've had maybe 10 minutes. Knowing how much time you have affects your choices. I knew when my girlfriend called me that there'd be no time for her to catch the bus anywhere, so I told her to stay home. Our house is protected by a series of mountains from where the targets are. Public parks, also, could have cement buildings that are underground or partially underground for people to hide. The mountain ranges that take up most of the island are unused, why not tunnel inside them to build shelters? They could build them without even harming the precious view. Also, I'm not one for socialized healthcare, but what if the government were to issue out hazmat suits for the citizens of high-risk (of nuclear attack) locations? These changes are on the government, but the majority of changes need to happen from civilians. Businesses, public services, and people here need to change. For example, the bus kicking people off en masse. Sure, being on a bus you're not tied down, you're surrounded by big glass windows, and you're on the open road; but the busses could have at least taken the riders to the nearest shelter. Public schools and libraries are designated bomb shelters here, and they took in people seeking safety. If a bus dropped off people in a place where they would die instead of taking them to the nearest shelter where they could live, there could be a huge lawsuit on their hands for being responsible for those deaths. The same applies for Walmart, Costco, and Sam's Club. At least two of those places shut their doors and kicked everyone out, including their own employees. People were hiding their kids in sewers because Walmart turned them down. If a real bomb had dropped, then by the time they'd shut everything down, gotten the last customer out, and locked their doors, it'd be too late. Plus, if a lot of customers were kicked out of Walmart, or Sam's Club, a bomb hit and those customers died but Sam's Club or Walmart survived, there'd be a class action lawsuit against the corporations. The better option would be to close their doors, announce on the intercom for everyone to please calmly head to the center of the store (or wherever the safest part of the building is) and wait it out. Any stealing would far outweigh the cost of a lawsuit later. Businesses that didn't have good hiding places should've directed customers and employees to the nearest shelter. And all buildings that qualify, like Sam's Club and Walmart, should be deemed bomb shelters, and maybe given a tax write-off for it. Or, the whole market incentive to avoid lawsuits, whatever your flavor. The upside to this is the ridiculous potential profit for Hawaiian businesses. Home improvement companies could make a killing with installing bomb shelters at people’s homes. They could range from basic storage bunkers to self-sustained luxury shelters, stocked with hazmat suits, rations, etc. Energy companies like solar, wind, and coal could build kits for these shelters. Water companies could install all-new plumbing in them. Someone could make “bomb bags", some tough material backpack with emergency gear like a gas mask, hazmat suit, condensed protein bars, bulletproof vests (illegal in HI, but there could be exceptions), collapsible trench shovels, hatchets, first-aid gear, etc. The effects of bunkers going widespread could be tremendous; it could establish permanent underground cities free of bomb threats like in *SPOILER ALERT* Hunger Games, where the Capital stopped bombing District 13 because it wasn’t effective. And the cities could be something simple, like a network of underground tunnels between shelters, or to a central one. Hell, there could even be an app for sharing bomb shelters, or finding the nearest one. If we had this, then North Korea’s threats wouldn't be so effective, at least not to civilians. Pearl Harbor happened almost 80 years ago. It's about time Hawaii built more bomb shelters, both privately and publicly. It's ridiculous not to. So why was the alert sent? The official story is that some employee made a mistake, that during a shift change someone pressed the wrong button. That the test was only meant to be sent out amongst the units running it, not half the state. I don't buy that. My first thought when my girlfriend called me was that it really WAS a drill disguised as a real bomb, so people would practice what to do for real. People don’t react to drills properly like they would in a real situation. Look at the episode of The Office where they had a fire drill disguised as a real fire- there’s a Dwight at the DOD. People in Hawaii generally like to go to the beach and relax. If they know something is a drill, they won't let it interfere with their plans. But if they think it's real, they'll see how they actually handle themselves when they believe a bomb is coming. I also believe it was initiated for the state to observe the reaction of the people here, so they'd know how to handle us. Although I could see how there'd be a possibility for an accident. It's Pascal's Wager: better to set the alarm and it's fake, than to not set it and it's real. I doubt there's too many fail-safes for the alert button, because a 20 minute flight time and a minimum of five minutes for us to detect it, leaves us with a maximum potential of 15 minutes at best (I'd honestly give it 10, since there's no way to know how long it'd take for those who detect it to tell those who send out the alert, and for the alert to send to all the recipients) to get to safety. I'd rather the alert button guy have an itchy button hand than a timid one. Failsafes belong with those in charge of sending bombs, not with those who warn populations against them. There was once a false alarm during the Cold War with Russia. A Russian man, Stanislav Petrov, was one of the two men assigned the responsibility of sending a retaliatory nuclear bomb to the US. When they had a false alarm that the US had sent a nuke to Russia, he hesitated; he didn't turn the key. He is now known as the man who single-handedly saved the world from nuclear war. In some occupations, hesitation is a virtue. I've heard some other theories, of course. It could've been a disgruntled employee. It could've just been old equipment, or someone really just made a mistake; wouldn't be the first time someone in the military made one. It could've been a hack; wouldn't be the first time for that, either. Of course there are more unsettling theories. It's possible that North Korea really DID shoot a missile at us, but it failed mid-flight. Again, that wouldn't be a first. It could've been shot down by an advanced plane of ours that the military doesn't want us to know about yet, like the TR-3B. And if they did shoot it down, they might deny it since they aren't ready to go to war yet for some reason, and admitting that we were shot at would inevitably lead to war. People in Hawaii would freak out if they knew a missile was shot at us, even if our military stopped it. And why would North Korea shoot at us now, right after their peace talks with South Korea? It seems an odd move for them, since we are allies with South Korea. "We'll befriend you, but we're also going to kill those guys who have protected you from us since the 50s," is kind of a mixed message. They did just shoot one over Japan, but that was most likely as a show of force. If they shot one towards us, it'd probably be just to show us that they can. The missiles might not even have warheads; if North Korea pretends to have entire cities where it doesn't, then who's to say they don't pretend to have warheads where they don't? But we do know North Korea has nukes, because the US gave them nukes. And other countries gave them nukes. And we all gave them money. The reason North Korea hates Trump so much is that, unlike other countries and US presidents in the past, he refuses to give them even the lint from his pocket. He understands the most basic rule of war: YOU DON'T ARM YOUR ENEMY. Trump can either continue appeasing our unstable enemy, making them stronger and allowing them to become an even bigger threat, or he can stand up to them the way previous presidents weren't able to do. Imagine you're the new kid at school, and there's a bully on the playground who runs around threatening all the other kids. Everyone gives him money, and some even give him weapons. What do you do? Do you also give him money and weapons, or do you threaten him back? Well if you're bigger and stronger than he is, you don't back down from him or give in to his demands. Trump is that new kid. He's not just making America great again, but he's making the whole world great. By standing up to North Korea, he stands up for everyone, even those poor souls in North Korea. And hey, if you don't see the logic in that, chew on this: Trump owns stake in several properties in Waikiki, namely hotels. If you don’t think he’s a good president, at least understand that he won’t let his own properties get destroyed. As Thomas Sowell said, "It is hard to imagine a more stupid or more dangerous way of making decisions than by putting those decisions in the hands of people who pay no price for being wrong." If Trump is wrong and gets us bombed, he loses millions of dollars. Previous presidents didn't have that problem. Why did Bush allow 9-11-01 to happen? Well, did he own any property in New York? I think that if Trump were president then, he might've looked at our foreign policy and defense systems and think, "Gee, I should make sure I don't get any of my hotels bombed." Trump isn't the type to partake in a false flag attack either. He's too honest; in fact, that's why he's so unpopular. He will boldly declare what others are too timid to subtly imply. I really hope there are no lawsuits over this. I'd hate for there to be any future hesitation in the minds of those responsible with warning us about an attack. 15 minutes to get to safety is a lot better than 10. I think Trump is doing the right thing, being hard on North Korea. I think Hawaii is safe. Trump will make sure America is protected. I trust his judgment and I trust our armed forces. I don't want nuclear war with North Korea. Nukes should be owned as a deterrent, but not used. Hawaii needs to make some changes though, just in case Oprah wins in 2020. If that happens, we'll need a bomb shelter in every backyard. If you like what I write, please like, subscribe, upvote, and share. I'm blogging again to raise money for my kitten's surgery; she lost her leg and part of her jaw in a car engine. If you'd like to donate, follow the link in my description. #missilegate #hawaii #oahu #trump #maga #northkorea #missile #oprah #america #saveripley #ripleyremarkable #istandwithripley |
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"body": "<a href=\"http://s1250.photobucket.com/user/DonTemple/media/MissileGate_zpszvsunmak.jpg.html\" target=\"_blank\"><img src=\"http://i1250.photobucket.com/albums/hh539/DonTemple/MissileGate_zpszvsunmak.jpg\" border=\"0\" alt=\"Missilegate photo MissileGate_zpszvsunmak.jpg\"/></a>\n\nWe’re not ready.\n \n Last week Saturday morning I woke up at five to catch the bus to work, since I started at eight. Less than ten minutes after I clocked in, my girlfriend sent me a screenshot of the infamous mass text: \"BALLISTIC MISSILE THREAT INBOUND TO HAWAII. SEEK IMMEDIATE SHELTER. THIS IS NOT A DRILL.\" I hadn't gotten the notification on my phone, probably because the state of Hawaii knows they can't scare me with anti-Trump propaganda. \n I wasn't worried. I trust my president and our military. I didn't think for one second that Our President Trump would let us get attacked. As often as the news lies about him and misconstrues what he says and does, every move he makes is in OUR best interest; he really does put America first, unlike our past several presidents. But I wanted to ensure that my coworkers felt safe and were well-prepared, just in case the worst possibility happened. \n Right after she sent the text, she called me to make sure I got it. I was standing in the parking lot where I worked: a car dealership in Waipahu, not five miles Northwest of Pearl Harbor and around the same distance South of Wheeler Army Airfield in Wahiawa, two of the three most likely targets for an attack. My coworkers were also all on their phones talking to their families, looking confused and scared. \n I told her to tape up the window to our bedroom like we do for hurricanes (an annual event in Hawaii, we tape up our windows to keep the glass more or less intact during high winds, so they don’t blast apart and rip through our houses) and hide with the pets against the wall under a thick blanket. Then I made everyone who was standing around the parking lot with me walk to the safest area close by, which was a concrete hallway between the parking lot and the garage bay where the mechanics work. We all talked about what to do in a missile attack: stay away from glass, stay away from cars, find someplace secure, indoors. Vehicles are dangerous since they have glass and small parts, thin metal that can bend and rip you apart, and they’re not bolted to the ground. A parking lot is a mine field during a bomb.\n Huddled together in the tight concrete hallway, we theorized about whether or not there really was a missile coming. We talked about where our families were, if they’d be safe. In the background, the new missile siren blared.\n My boss locked up and told people they could either seek shelter at the big warehouse down the road or go home. I took the time to clock out and gather my things. My coworker invited me to his house, since I ride the bus and the busses probably weren’t running anyway; if anything, I wouldn’t have to wait at a bus stop for 30 minutes. Later I found out the busses were kicking riders off at the nearest bus stops and heading straight back to their depots, which could be a death sentence to passengers.\n A lady I work with was crying. People were having anxiety attacks. My friend took me to his house in the Palisades, a neighborhood up in the mountains above Pearl City, which was about a 10 minute drive. Later I learned that, had there been a real bomb, we would’ve vaporized on the road. \n When we got there, we watched the news with his family and their little fluffy dog. I wondered out loud how long it would take a missile from North Korea to reach us; his father-in-law answered without looking away from the TV. “72 minutes,” he said with confidence. Turns out he was wrong; it would only take 20.\n We were relieved to hear that it was a false alarm. It had been 38 minutes from the time the alert was sent out until the new text came to announce that there was no missile. I never got either text. The only text I got was my boss telling us all to return to work; although I told everyone to wait it out just in case, since oftentimes there are drills or some sort of false alarm before false flags, and it would be a good habit to instill in people to be more cautious.\n We were thinking there’d be lawsuits. We figured some people might have had heart attacks, which actually did happen. There was at least one heart attack death that I know of. His father-in-law was worried that people might’ve shot themselves to avoid the terror of death by radiation, fire, and debris. These were all things I didn’t think of, since I was so sure of our safety.\n Some things that actually happened during those 38 minutes—again, to reiterate, I was never sent a notification, so if I were alone somewhere I’d never know to take shelter if a missile really did come—people were running red lights, there were wrecks, 911 had to turn down calls because their lines were flooded, stores closed and kicked out customers, busses kicked riders off where they were (and some bus stops are in the middle of nowhere, some miles between any shelter). People were also doing end-of-the-world things, like letting their kids drink or expressing their love to their crush, calling their loved ones to tell them goodbye. In fact, someone's probably writing a script right now about a person confessing their secret love to another during the panic.\n But the main thing that really got me was just how unprepared we are. I’ve known since the first day I moved here that people in Hawaii generally aren’t the most… self-reliant, shall we say. Being a blue state, people are more inclined to expect government help, rather than take matters into their own hands to protect themselves. That’s why it’s illegal to carry guns here, or to even own a bulletproof vest.\t\n The downside of this is that people really don't know what to do in an emergency scenario like this one. They would rather drive 20 minutes to see their families than to wait it out in the nearest safe place and see their loved ones after. What's more preferable; to survive in a separate place than your family and reunite later, or to die trying to get to them? The road is the WORST place to be when a bomb goes off! Like I said before, cars aren't bolted down, they have loose parts made from metal and glass and toxic fluids, and it's outside.\n It takes a missile 20 minutes to fly from North Korea to Hawaii. At best, it takes five minutes for us to notice it, so we have 15 minutes until impact from the point of warning; assuming the warning comes instantly. People here didn't even know how much time they had, or where to go. There were plenty of people who thought it would take a missile two hours to reach us! I'm going to go over what should've happened, how we can better prepare ourselves, and then a few theories on WHY it happened. \n The first changes necessary for ensuring the maximum amount of people survive a bomb are at the state level. The next time there's a warning, the text should actually tell us what our window of time is. The text should've specified, \"You have 15 minutes until impact.\" This is a simple change. That way people know to seek shelter immediately instead of driving across town to grab their kids from school or go home to their families. They acted as if they had an hour to get to safety, but really they would've had maybe 10 minutes. Knowing how much time you have affects your choices. I knew when my girlfriend called me that there'd be no time for her to catch the bus anywhere, so I told her to stay home. Our house is protected by a series of mountains from where the targets are. \n Public parks, also, could have cement buildings that are underground or partially underground for people to hide. The mountain ranges that take up most of the island are unused, why not tunnel inside them to build shelters? They could build them without even harming the precious view. Also, I'm not one for socialized healthcare, but what if the government were to issue out hazmat suits for the citizens of high-risk (of nuclear attack) locations? These changes are on the government, but the majority of changes need to happen from civilians. \n Businesses, public services, and people here need to change. For example, the bus kicking people off en masse. Sure, being on a bus you're not tied down, you're surrounded by big glass windows, and you're on the open road; but the busses could have at least taken the riders to the nearest shelter. Public schools and libraries are designated bomb shelters here, and they took in people seeking safety. If a bus dropped off people in a place where they would die instead of taking them to the nearest shelter where they could live, there could be a huge lawsuit on their hands for being responsible for those deaths. The same applies for Walmart, Costco, and Sam's Club. At least two of those places shut their doors and kicked everyone out, including their own employees. People were hiding their kids in sewers because Walmart turned them down. If a real bomb had dropped, then by the time they'd shut everything down, gotten the last customer out, and locked their doors, it'd be too late. Plus, if a lot of customers were kicked out of Walmart, or Sam's Club, a bomb hit and those customers died but Sam's Club or Walmart survived, there'd be a class action lawsuit against the corporations. The better option would be to close their doors, announce on the intercom for everyone to please calmly head to the center of the store (or wherever the safest part of the building is) and wait it out. Any stealing would far outweigh the cost of a lawsuit later. Businesses that didn't have good hiding places should've directed customers and employees to the nearest shelter. And all buildings that qualify, like Sam's Club and Walmart, should be deemed bomb shelters, and maybe given a tax write-off for it. Or, the whole market incentive to avoid lawsuits, whatever your flavor. \n The upside to this is the ridiculous potential profit for Hawaiian businesses. Home improvement companies could make a killing with installing bomb shelters at people’s homes. They could range from basic storage bunkers to self-sustained luxury shelters, stocked with hazmat suits, rations, etc. Energy companies like solar, wind, and coal could build kits for these shelters. Water companies could install all-new plumbing in them. Someone could make “bomb bags\", some tough material backpack with emergency gear like a gas mask, hazmat suit, condensed protein bars, bulletproof vests (illegal in HI, but there could be exceptions), collapsible trench shovels, hatchets, first-aid gear, etc. The effects of bunkers going widespread could be tremendous; it could establish permanent underground cities free of bomb threats like in *SPOILER ALERT* Hunger Games, where the Capital stopped bombing District 13 because it wasn’t effective. And the cities could be something simple, like a network of underground tunnels between shelters, or to a central one. Hell, there could even be an app for sharing bomb shelters, or finding the nearest one. If we had this, then North Korea’s threats wouldn't be so effective, at least not to civilians. \n Pearl Harbor happened almost 80 years ago. It's about time Hawaii built more bomb shelters, both privately and publicly. It's ridiculous not to. \n So why was the alert sent? The official story is that some employee made a mistake, that during a shift change someone pressed the wrong button. That the test was only meant to be sent out amongst the units running it, not half the state. I don't buy that.\n My first thought when my girlfriend called me was that it really WAS a drill disguised as a real bomb, so people would practice what to do for real. People don’t react to drills properly like they would in a real situation. Look at the episode of The Office where they had a fire drill disguised as a real fire- there’s a Dwight at the DOD. People in Hawaii generally like to go to the beach and relax. If they know something is a drill, they won't let it interfere with their plans. But if they think it's real, they'll see how they actually handle themselves when they believe a bomb is coming. I also believe it was initiated for the state to observe the reaction of the people here, so they'd know how to handle us. \n Although I could see how there'd be a possibility for an accident. It's Pascal's Wager: better to set the alarm and it's fake, than to not set it and it's real. I doubt there's too many fail-safes for the alert button, because a 20 minute flight time and a minimum of five minutes for us to detect it, leaves us with a maximum potential of 15 minutes at best (I'd honestly give it 10, since there's no way to know how long it'd take for those who detect it to tell those who send out the alert, and for the alert to send to all the recipients) to get to safety. I'd rather the alert button guy have an itchy button hand than a timid one. Failsafes belong with those in charge of sending bombs, not with those who warn populations against them.\n There was once a false alarm during the Cold War with Russia. A Russian man, Stanislav Petrov, was one of the two men assigned the responsibility of sending a retaliatory nuclear bomb to the US. When they had a false alarm that the US had sent a nuke to Russia, he hesitated; he didn't turn the key. He is now known as the man who single-handedly saved the world from nuclear war. In some occupations, hesitation is a virtue. \n I've heard some other theories, of course. It could've been a disgruntled employee. It could've just been old equipment, or someone really just made a mistake; wouldn't be the first time someone in the military made one. It could've been a hack; wouldn't be the first time for that, either. \n Of course there are more unsettling theories. It's possible that North Korea really DID shoot a missile at us, but it failed mid-flight. Again, that wouldn't be a first. It could've been shot down by an advanced plane of ours that the military doesn't want us to know about yet, like the TR-3B. And if they did shoot it down, they might deny it since they aren't ready to go to war yet for some reason, and admitting that we were shot at would inevitably lead to war. People in Hawaii would freak out if they knew a missile was shot at us, even if our military stopped it. \n And why would North Korea shoot at us now, right after their peace talks with South Korea? It seems an odd move for them, since we are allies with South Korea. \"We'll befriend you, but we're also going to kill those guys who have protected you from us since the 50s,\" is kind of a mixed message. They did just shoot one over Japan, but that was most likely as a show of force. If they shot one towards us, it'd probably be just to show us that they can. The missiles might not even have warheads; if North Korea pretends to have entire cities where it doesn't, then who's to say they don't pretend to have warheads where they don't? \n But we do know North Korea has nukes, because the US gave them nukes. And other countries gave them nukes. And we all gave them money. \n The reason North Korea hates Trump so much is that, unlike other countries and US presidents in the past, he refuses to give them even the lint from his pocket. He understands the most basic rule of war: YOU DON'T ARM YOUR ENEMY. Trump can either continue appeasing our unstable enemy, making them stronger and allowing them to become an even bigger threat, or he can stand up to them the way previous presidents weren't able to do. \n Imagine you're the new kid at school, and there's a bully on the playground who runs around threatening all the other kids. Everyone gives him money, and some even give him weapons. What do you do? Do you also give him money and weapons, or do you threaten him back? Well if you're bigger and stronger than he is, you don't back down from him or give in to his demands. Trump is that new kid. He's not just making America great again, but he's making the whole world great. By standing up to North Korea, he stands up for everyone, even those poor souls in North Korea. \n And hey, if you don't see the logic in that, chew on this: Trump owns stake in several properties in Waikiki, namely hotels. If you don’t think he’s a good president, at least understand that he won’t let his own properties get destroyed. As Thomas Sowell said, \"It is hard to imagine a more stupid or more dangerous way of making decisions than by putting those decisions in the hands of people who pay no price for being wrong.\" If Trump is wrong and gets us bombed, he loses millions of dollars. Previous presidents didn't have that problem. Why did Bush allow 9-11-01 to happen? Well, did he own any property in New York? I think that if Trump were president then, he might've looked at our foreign policy and defense systems and think, \"Gee, I should make sure I don't get any of my hotels bombed.\"\n Trump isn't the type to partake in a false flag attack either. He's too honest; in fact, that's why he's so unpopular. He will boldly declare what others are too timid to subtly imply. \n I really hope there are no lawsuits over this. I'd hate for there to be any future hesitation in the minds of those responsible with warning us about an attack. 15 minutes to get to safety is a lot better than 10. I think Trump is doing the right thing, being hard on North Korea. I think Hawaii is safe. Trump will make sure America is protected. I trust his judgment and I trust our armed forces. I don't want nuclear war with North Korea. Nukes should be owned as a deterrent, but not used. Hawaii needs to make some changes though, just in case Oprah wins in 2020. If that happens, we'll need a bomb shelter in every backyard. \n\nIf you like what I write, please like, subscribe, upvote, and share. I'm blogging again to raise money for my kitten's surgery; she lost her leg and part of her jaw in a car engine. 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| body | <a href="http://s1250.photobucket.com/user/DonTemple/media/MissileGate_zpszvsunmak.jpg.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i1250.photobucket.com/albums/hh539/DonTemple/MissileGate_zpszvsunmak.jpg" border="0" alt="Missilegate photo MissileGate_zpszvsunmak.jpg"/></a> We’re not ready. Saturday morning I woke up at five to catch the bus to work, since I started at eight. Less than ten minutes after I clocked in, my girlfriend sent me a screenshot of the infamous mass text: “BALLISTIC MISSILE THREAT INBOUND TO HAWAII. SEEK IMMEDIATE SHELTER. THIS IS NOT A DRILL.” I hadn’t gotten the message on my phone, probably because the state of Hawaii knows they can’t scare me with anti-Trump propaganda. I wasn’t worried. I trust my president and my military. I didn’t think for one second that Our President Trump would let us get attacked. As often as the news lies about him and misconstrues what he says and does, every move he makes is in OUR best interest; he really does put America first, unlike our past several presidents. But I wanted to ensure my coworkers felt safe and were all prepared, just in case the worst possibility happened. Right after she sent the text, she called me to make sure I got it. I was standing in the parking lot where I worked: a car dealership in Waipahu, not five miles Northwest of Pearl Harbor and around the same distance South of Wheeler Army Airfield in Wahiawa, two of the three most likely targets for an attack. My coworkers were also all on their phones talking to their families, looking confused and scared. I told her to tape up the window to our bedroom like we do for hurricanes (an annual event in Hawaii, we tape up our windows to keep the glass more or less intact during high winds, so they don’t blast apart and rip through our houses) and hide with the pets against the wall under a thick blanket. Then I made everyone who was standing around the parking lot with me walk to the safest area close by, which was a concrete hallway between the parking lot and the garage bay where the mechanics work. We all talked about what to do in a missile attack: stay away from glass, stay away from cars, find someplace secure, indoors. Vehicles are dangerous since they have glass and small parts, thin metal that can bend and rip you apart, and they’re not bolted to the ground. A parking lot is a mine field during a bomb. Huddled together in the tight concrete hallway, we theorized about whether or not there really was a missile coming. We talked about where our families were, if they’d be safe. In the background, the new missile siren blared. My boss locked up and told people they could either seek shelter at the big warehouse down the road or go home. I took the time to clock out and gather my things. My coworker invited me to his house, since I ride the bus and the busses probably weren’t running anyway; if anything, I wouldn’t have to wait at a bus stop for 30 minutes. Later I found out the busses were kicking riders off at the nearest bus stops and heading straight back to their depots, which could be a death sentence to passengers. A lady I work with was crying. People were having anxiety attacks. My friend took me to his house in the Palisades, a neighborhood up in the mountains above Pearl City, which was about a 10 minute drive. Later I learned that, had there been a real bomb, we would’ve vaporized on the road. When we got there, we watched the news with his family and their little fluffy dog. I wondered out loud how long it would take a missile from North Korea to reach us; his father-in-law answered without looking away from the TV. “72 minutes,” he said with confidence. Turns out he was wrong; it would only take 20. We were relieved to hear that it was a false alarm. It had been 38 minutes from the time the alert was sent out until the new text came to announce that there was no missile. I never got either text. The only text I got was my boss telling us all to return to work; although I told everyone to wait it out just in case, since oftentimes there are drills or some sort of false alarm before false flags, and it would be a good habit to instill in people to be more cautious. We were thinking there’d be lawsuits. We figured some people might have had heart attacks, which actually did happen. There was at least one heart attack death that I know of. His father-in-law was worried that people might’ve shot themselves to avoid the terror of death by radiation, fire, and debris. These were all things I didn’t think of, since I was so sure of our safety. Some things that actually happened during those 38 minutes—again, to reiterate, I was never sent a notification, so if I were alone somewhere I’d never know to take shelter if a missile really did come—people were running red lights, there were wrecks, 911 had to turn down calls because their lines were flooded, stores closed and kicked out customers, busses kicked riders off where they were (and some bus stops are in the middle of nowhere, some miles between any shelter). People were also doing end-of-the-world things, like letting their kids drink or expressing their love to their crush, calling their loved ones to tell them goodbye. In fact, someone's probably writing a script right now about a person confessing their secret love to another during the panic. But the main thing that really got me was just how unprepared we are. I’ve known since the first day I moved here that people in Hawaii generally aren’t the most… self-reliant, shall we say. Being a blue state, people are more inclined to expect government help, rather than take matters into their own hands to protect themselves. That’s why it’s illegal to carry guns here, or to even own a bulletproof vest. The downside of this is that people really don't know what to do in an emergency scenario like this one. They would rather drive 20 minutes to see their families than to wait it out in the nearest safe place and see their loved ones after. What's more preferable; to survive in a separate place than your family and reunite later, or to die trying to get to them? The road is the WORST place to be when a bomb goes off! Like I said before, cars aren't bolted down, they have loose parts made from metal and glass and toxic fluids, and it's outside. It takes a missile 20 minutes to fly from North Korea to Hawaii. At best, it takes five minutes for us to notice it, so we have 15 minutes until impact from the point of warning; assuming the warning comes instantly. People here didn't even know how much time they had, or where to go. There were plenty of people who thought it would take a missile two hours to reach us! I'm going to go over what should've happened, how we can better prepare ourselves, and then a few theories on WHY it happened. The first changes necessary for ensuring the maximum amount of people survive a bomb are at the state level. The next time there's a warning, the text should actually tell us what our window of time is. The text should've specified, "You have 15 minutes until impact." This is a simple change. That way people know to seek shelter immediately instead of driving across town to grab their kids from school or go home to their families. They acted as if they had an hour to get to safety, but really they would've had maybe 10 minutes. Knowing how much time you have affects your choices. I knew when my girlfriend called me that there'd be no time for her to catch the bus anywhere, so I told her to stay home. Our house is protected by a series of mountains from where the targets are. Public parks, also, could have cement buildings that are underground or partially underground for people to hide. The mountain ranges that take up most of the island are unused, why not tunnel inside them to build shelters? They could build them without even harming the precious view. Also, I'm not one for socialized healthcare, but what if the government were to issue out hazmat suits for the citizens of high-risk (of nuclear attack) locations? These changes are on the government, but the majority of changes need to happen from civilians. Businesses, public services, and people here need to change. For example, the bus kicking people off en masse. Sure, being on a bus you're not tied down, you're surrounded by big glass windows, and you're on the open road; but the busses could have at least taken the riders to the nearest shelter. Public schools and libraries are designated bomb shelters here, and they took in people seeking safety. If a bus dropped off people in a place where they would die instead of taking them to the nearest shelter where they could live, there could be a huge lawsuit on their hands for being responsible for those deaths. The same applies for Walmart, Costco, and Sam's Club. At least two of those places shut their doors and kicked everyone out, including their own employees. People were hiding their kids in sewers because Walmart turned them down. If a real bomb had dropped, then by the time they'd shut everything down, gotten the last customer out, and locked their doors, it'd be too late. Plus, if a lot of customers were kicked out of Walmart, or Sam's Club, a bomb hit and those customers died but Sam's Club or Walmart survived, there'd be a class action lawsuit against the corporations. The better option would be to close their doors, announce on the intercom for everyone to please calmly head to the center of the store (or wherever the safest part of the building is) and wait it out. Any stealing would far outweigh the cost of a lawsuit later. Businesses that didn't have good hiding places should've directed customers and employees to the nearest shelter. And all buildings that qualify, like Sam's Club and Walmart, should be deemed bomb shelters, and maybe given a tax write-off for it. Or, the whole market incentive to avoid lawsuits, whatever your flavor. The upside to this is the ridiculous potential profit for Hawaiian businesses. Home improvement companies could make a killing with installing bomb shelters at people’s homes. They could range from basic storage bunkers to self-sustained luxury shelters, stocked with hazmat suits, rations, etc. Energy companies like solar, wind, and coal could build kits for these shelters. Water companies could install all-new plumbing in them. Someone could make “bomb bags", some tough material backpack with emergency gear like a gas mask, hazmat suit, condensed protein bars, bulletproof vests (illegal in HI, but there could be exceptions), collapsible trench shovels, hatchets, first-aid gear, etc. The effects of bunkers going widespread could be tremendous; it could establish permanent underground cities free of bomb threats like in *SPOILER ALERT* Hunger Games, where the Capital stopped bombing District 13 because it wasn’t effective. And the cities could be something simple, like a network of underground tunnels between shelters, or to a central one. Hell, there could even be an app for sharing bomb shelters, or finding the nearest one. If we had this, then North Korea’s threats wouldn't be so effective, at least not to civilians. Pearl Harbor happened almost 80 years ago. It's about time Hawaii built more bomb shelters, both privately and publicly. It's ridiculous not to. So why was the alert sent? The official story is that some employee made a mistake, that during a shift change someone pressed the wrong button. That the test was only meant to be sent out amongst the units running it, not half the state. I don't buy that. My first thought when my girlfriend called me was that it really WAS a drill disguised as a real bomb, so people would practice what to do for real. People don’t react to drills properly like they would in a real situation. Look at the episode of The Office where they had a fire drill disguised as a real fire- there’s a Dwight at the DOD. People in Hawaii generally like to go to the beach and relax. If they know something is a drill, they won't let it interfere with their plans. But if they think it's real, they'll see how they actually handle themselves when they believe a bomb is coming. I also believe it was initiated for the state to observe the reaction of the people here, so they'd know how to handle us. Although I could see how there'd be a possibility for an accident. It's Pascal's Wager: better to set the alarm and it's fake, than to not set it and it's real. I doubt there's too many fail-safes for the alert button, because a 20 minute flight time and a minimum of five minutes for us to detect it, leaves us with a maximum potential of 15 minutes at best (I'd honestly give it 10, since there's no way to know how long it'd take for those who detect it to tell those who send out the alert, and for the alert to send to all the recipients) to get to safety. I'd rather the alert button guy have an itchy button hand than a timid one. Failsafes belong with those in charge of sending bombs, not with those who warn populations against them. There was once a false alarm during the Cold War with Russia. A Russian man, Stanislav Petrov, was one of the two men assigned the responsibility of sending a retaliatory nuclear bomb to the US. When they had a false alarm that the US had sent a nuke to Russia, he hesitated; he didn't turn the key. He is now known as the man who single-handedly saved the world from nuclear war. In some occupations, hesitation is a virtue. I've heard some other theories, of course. It could've been a disgruntled employee. It could've just been old equipment, or someone really just made a mistake; wouldn't be the first time someone in the military made one. It could've been a hack; wouldn't be the first time for that, either. Of course there are more unsettling theories. It's possible that North Korea really DID shoot a missile at us, but it failed mid-flight. Again, that wouldn't be a first. It could've been shot down by an advanced plane of ours that the military doesn't want us to know about yet, like the TR-3B. And if they did shoot it down, they might deny it since they aren't ready to go to war yet for some reason, and admitting that we were shot at would inevitably lead to war. People in Hawaii would freak out if they knew a missile was shot at us, even if our military stopped it. And why would North Korea shoot at us now, right after their peace talks with South Korea? It seems an odd move for them, since we are allies with South Korea. "We'll befriend you, but we're also going to kill those guys who have protected you from us since the 50s," is kind of a mixed message. They did just shoot one over Japan, but that was most likely as a show of force. If they shot one towards us, it'd probably be just to show us that they can. The missiles might not even have warheads; if North Korea pretends to have entire cities where it doesn't, then who's to say they don't pretend to have warheads where they don't? But we do know North Korea has nukes, because the US gave them nukes. And other countries gave them nukes. And we all gave them money. The reason North Korea hates Trump so much is that, unlike other countries and US presidents in the past, he refuses to give them even the lint from his pocket. He understands the most basic rule of war: YOU DON'T ARM YOUR ENEMY. Trump can either continue appeasing our unstable enemy, making them stronger and allowing them to become an even bigger threat, or he can stand up to them the way previous presidents weren't able to do. Imagine you're the new kid at school, and there's a bully on the playground who runs around threatening all the other kids. Everyone gives him money, and some even give him weapons. What do you do? Do you also give him money and weapons, or do you threaten him back? Well if you're bigger and stronger than he is, you don't back down from him or give in to his demands. Trump is that new kid. He's not just making America great again, but he's making the whole world great. By standing up to North Korea, he stands up for everyone, even those poor souls in North Korea. And hey, if you don't see the logic in that, chew on this: Trump owns stake in several properties in Waikiki, namely hotels. If you don’t think he’s a good president, at least understand that he won’t let his own properties get destroyed. As Thomas Sowell said, "It is hard to imagine a more stupid or more dangerous way of making decisions than by putting those decisions in the hands of people who pay no price for being wrong." If Trump is wrong and gets us bombed, he loses millions of dollars. Previous presidents didn't have that problem. Why did Bush allow 9-11-01 to happen? Well, did he own any property in New York? I think that if Trump were president then, he might've looked at our foreign policy and defense systems and think, "Gee, I should make sure I don't get any of my hotels bombed." Trump isn't the type to partake in a false flag attack either. He's too honest; in fact, that's why he's so unpopular. He will boldly declare what others are too timid to subtly imply. I really hope there are no lawsuits over this. I'd hate for there to be any future hesitation in the minds of those responsible with warning us about an attack. 15 minutes to get to safety is a lot better than 10. I think Trump is doing the right thing, being hard on North Korea. I think Hawaii is safe. Trump will make sure America is protected. I trust his judgment and I trust our armed forces. I don't want nuclear war with North Korea. Nukes should be owned as a deterrent, but not used. Hawaii needs to make some changes though, just in case Oprah wins in 2020. If that happens, we'll need a bomb shelter in every backyard. If you like what I write, please like, subscribe, upvote, and share. I'm blogging again to raise money for my kitten's surgery; she lost her leg and part of her jaw in a car engine. If you'd like to donate, follow the link in my description. #missilegate #hawaii #oahu #trump #maga #northkorea #missile #oprah #america #saveripley #ripleyremarkable #istandwithripley |
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"body": "<a href=\"http://s1250.photobucket.com/user/DonTemple/media/MissileGate_zpszvsunmak.jpg.html\" target=\"_blank\"><img src=\"http://i1250.photobucket.com/albums/hh539/DonTemple/MissileGate_zpszvsunmak.jpg\" border=\"0\" alt=\"Missilegate photo MissileGate_zpszvsunmak.jpg\"/></a>\n\nWe’re not ready.\n \n Saturday morning I woke up at five to catch the bus to work, since I started at eight. Less than ten minutes after I clocked in, my girlfriend sent me a screenshot of the infamous mass text: “BALLISTIC MISSILE THREAT INBOUND TO HAWAII. SEEK IMMEDIATE SHELTER. THIS IS NOT A DRILL.” I hadn’t gotten the message on my phone, probably because the state of Hawaii knows they can’t scare me with anti-Trump propaganda. \n I wasn’t worried. I trust my president and my military. I didn’t think for one second that Our President Trump would let us get attacked. As often as the news lies about him and misconstrues what he says and does, every move he makes is in OUR best interest; he really does put America first, unlike our past several presidents. But I wanted to ensure my coworkers felt safe and were all prepared, just in case the worst possibility happened.\n Right after she sent the text, she called me to make sure I got it. I was standing in the parking lot where I worked: a car dealership in Waipahu, not five miles Northwest of Pearl Harbor and around the same distance South of Wheeler Army Airfield in Wahiawa, two of the three most likely targets for an attack. My coworkers were also all on their phones talking to their families, looking confused and scared. \n I told her to tape up the window to our bedroom like we do for hurricanes (an annual event in Hawaii, we tape up our windows to keep the glass more or less intact during high winds, so they don’t blast apart and rip through our houses) and hide with the pets against the wall under a thick blanket. Then I made everyone who was standing around the parking lot with me walk to the safest area close by, which was a concrete hallway between the parking lot and the garage bay where the mechanics work. We all talked about what to do in a missile attack: stay away from glass, stay away from cars, find someplace secure, indoors. Vehicles are dangerous since they have glass and small parts, thin metal that can bend and rip you apart, and they’re not bolted to the ground. A parking lot is a mine field during a bomb.\n Huddled together in the tight concrete hallway, we theorized about whether or not there really was a missile coming. We talked about where our families were, if they’d be safe. In the background, the new missile siren blared.\n My boss locked up and told people they could either seek shelter at the big warehouse down the road or go home. I took the time to clock out and gather my things. My coworker invited me to his house, since I ride the bus and the busses probably weren’t running anyway; if anything, I wouldn’t have to wait at a bus stop for 30 minutes. Later I found out the busses were kicking riders off at the nearest bus stops and heading straight back to their depots, which could be a death sentence to passengers.\n A lady I work with was crying. People were having anxiety attacks. My friend took me to his house in the Palisades, a neighborhood up in the mountains above Pearl City, which was about a 10 minute drive. Later I learned that, had there been a real bomb, we would’ve vaporized on the road. \n When we got there, we watched the news with his family and their little fluffy dog. I wondered out loud how long it would take a missile from North Korea to reach us; his father-in-law answered without looking away from the TV. “72 minutes,” he said with confidence. Turns out he was wrong; it would only take 20.\n We were relieved to hear that it was a false alarm. It had been 38 minutes from the time the alert was sent out until the new text came to announce that there was no missile. I never got either text. The only text I got was my boss telling us all to return to work; although I told everyone to wait it out just in case, since oftentimes there are drills or some sort of false alarm before false flags, and it would be a good habit to instill in people to be more cautious.\n We were thinking there’d be lawsuits. We figured some people might have had heart attacks, which actually did happen. There was at least one heart attack death that I know of. His father-in-law was worried that people might’ve shot themselves to avoid the terror of death by radiation, fire, and debris. These were all things I didn’t think of, since I was so sure of our safety.\n Some things that actually happened during those 38 minutes—again, to reiterate, I was never sent a notification, so if I were alone somewhere I’d never know to take shelter if a missile really did come—people were running red lights, there were wrecks, 911 had to turn down calls because their lines were flooded, stores closed and kicked out customers, busses kicked riders off where they were (and some bus stops are in the middle of nowhere, some miles between any shelter). People were also doing end-of-the-world things, like letting their kids drink or expressing their love to their crush, calling their loved ones to tell them goodbye. In fact, someone's probably writing a script right now about a person confessing their secret love to another during the panic.\n But the main thing that really got me was just how unprepared we are. I’ve known since the first day I moved here that people in Hawaii generally aren’t the most… self-reliant, shall we say. Being a blue state, people are more inclined to expect government help, rather than take matters into their own hands to protect themselves. That’s why it’s illegal to carry guns here, or to even own a bulletproof vest.\t\n The downside of this is that people really don't know what to do in an emergency scenario like this one. They would rather drive 20 minutes to see their families than to wait it out in the nearest safe place and see their loved ones after. What's more preferable; to survive in a separate place than your family and reunite later, or to die trying to get to them? The road is the WORST place to be when a bomb goes off! Like I said before, cars aren't bolted down, they have loose parts made from metal and glass and toxic fluids, and it's outside.\n It takes a missile 20 minutes to fly from North Korea to Hawaii. At best, it takes five minutes for us to notice it, so we have 15 minutes until impact from the point of warning; assuming the warning comes instantly. People here didn't even know how much time they had, or where to go. There were plenty of people who thought it would take a missile two hours to reach us! I'm going to go over what should've happened, how we can better prepare ourselves, and then a few theories on WHY it happened. \n The first changes necessary for ensuring the maximum amount of people survive a bomb are at the state level. The next time there's a warning, the text should actually tell us what our window of time is. The text should've specified, \"You have 15 minutes until impact.\" This is a simple change. That way people know to seek shelter immediately instead of driving across town to grab their kids from school or go home to their families. They acted as if they had an hour to get to safety, but really they would've had maybe 10 minutes. Knowing how much time you have affects your choices. I knew when my girlfriend called me that there'd be no time for her to catch the bus anywhere, so I told her to stay home. Our house is protected by a series of mountains from where the targets are. \n Public parks, also, could have cement buildings that are underground or partially underground for people to hide. The mountain ranges that take up most of the island are unused, why not tunnel inside them to build shelters? They could build them without even harming the precious view. Also, I'm not one for socialized healthcare, but what if the government were to issue out hazmat suits for the citizens of high-risk (of nuclear attack) locations? These changes are on the government, but the majority of changes need to happen from civilians. \n Businesses, public services, and people here need to change. For example, the bus kicking people off en masse. Sure, being on a bus you're not tied down, you're surrounded by big glass windows, and you're on the open road; but the busses could have at least taken the riders to the nearest shelter. Public schools and libraries are designated bomb shelters here, and they took in people seeking safety. If a bus dropped off people in a place where they would die instead of taking them to the nearest shelter where they could live, there could be a huge lawsuit on their hands for being responsible for those deaths. The same applies for Walmart, Costco, and Sam's Club. At least two of those places shut their doors and kicked everyone out, including their own employees. People were hiding their kids in sewers because Walmart turned them down. If a real bomb had dropped, then by the time they'd shut everything down, gotten the last customer out, and locked their doors, it'd be too late. Plus, if a lot of customers were kicked out of Walmart, or Sam's Club, a bomb hit and those customers died but Sam's Club or Walmart survived, there'd be a class action lawsuit against the corporations. The better option would be to close their doors, announce on the intercom for everyone to please calmly head to the center of the store (or wherever the safest part of the building is) and wait it out. Any stealing would far outweigh the cost of a lawsuit later. Businesses that didn't have good hiding places should've directed customers and employees to the nearest shelter. And all buildings that qualify, like Sam's Club and Walmart, should be deemed bomb shelters, and maybe given a tax write-off for it. Or, the whole market incentive to avoid lawsuits, whatever your flavor. \n The upside to this is the ridiculous potential profit for Hawaiian businesses. Home improvement companies could make a killing with installing bomb shelters at people’s homes. They could range from basic storage bunkers to self-sustained luxury shelters, stocked with hazmat suits, rations, etc. Energy companies like solar, wind, and coal could build kits for these shelters. Water companies could install all-new plumbing in them. Someone could make “bomb bags\", some tough material backpack with emergency gear like a gas mask, hazmat suit, condensed protein bars, bulletproof vests (illegal in HI, but there could be exceptions), collapsible trench shovels, hatchets, first-aid gear, etc. The effects of bunkers going widespread could be tremendous; it could establish permanent underground cities free of bomb threats like in *SPOILER ALERT* Hunger Games, where the Capital stopped bombing District 13 because it wasn’t effective. And the cities could be something simple, like a network of underground tunnels between shelters, or to a central one. Hell, there could even be an app for sharing bomb shelters, or finding the nearest one. If we had this, then North Korea’s threats wouldn't be so effective, at least not to civilians. \n Pearl Harbor happened almost 80 years ago. It's about time Hawaii built more bomb shelters, both privately and publicly. It's ridiculous not to. \n So why was the alert sent? The official story is that some employee made a mistake, that during a shift change someone pressed the wrong button. That the test was only meant to be sent out amongst the units running it, not half the state. I don't buy that.\n My first thought when my girlfriend called me was that it really WAS a drill disguised as a real bomb, so people would practice what to do for real. People don’t react to drills properly like they would in a real situation. Look at the episode of The Office where they had a fire drill disguised as a real fire- there’s a Dwight at the DOD. People in Hawaii generally like to go to the beach and relax. If they know something is a drill, they won't let it interfere with their plans. But if they think it's real, they'll see how they actually handle themselves when they believe a bomb is coming. I also believe it was initiated for the state to observe the reaction of the people here, so they'd know how to handle us. \n Although I could see how there'd be a possibility for an accident. It's Pascal's Wager: better to set the alarm and it's fake, than to not set it and it's real. I doubt there's too many fail-safes for the alert button, because a 20 minute flight time and a minimum of five minutes for us to detect it, leaves us with a maximum potential of 15 minutes at best (I'd honestly give it 10, since there's no way to know how long it'd take for those who detect it to tell those who send out the alert, and for the alert to send to all the recipients) to get to safety. I'd rather the alert button guy have an itchy button hand than a timid one. Failsafes belong with those in charge of sending bombs, not with those who warn populations against them.\n There was once a false alarm during the Cold War with Russia. A Russian man, Stanislav Petrov, was one of the two men assigned the responsibility of sending a retaliatory nuclear bomb to the US. When they had a false alarm that the US had sent a nuke to Russia, he hesitated; he didn't turn the key. He is now known as the man who single-handedly saved the world from nuclear war. In some occupations, hesitation is a virtue. \n I've heard some other theories, of course. It could've been a disgruntled employee. It could've just been old equipment, or someone really just made a mistake; wouldn't be the first time someone in the military made one. It could've been a hack; wouldn't be the first time for that, either. \n Of course there are more unsettling theories. It's possible that North Korea really DID shoot a missile at us, but it failed mid-flight. Again, that wouldn't be a first. It could've been shot down by an advanced plane of ours that the military doesn't want us to know about yet, like the TR-3B. And if they did shoot it down, they might deny it since they aren't ready to go to war yet for some reason, and admitting that we were shot at would inevitably lead to war. People in Hawaii would freak out if they knew a missile was shot at us, even if our military stopped it. \n And why would North Korea shoot at us now, right after their peace talks with South Korea? It seems an odd move for them, since we are allies with South Korea. \"We'll befriend you, but we're also going to kill those guys who have protected you from us since the 50s,\" is kind of a mixed message. They did just shoot one over Japan, but that was most likely as a show of force. If they shot one towards us, it'd probably be just to show us that they can. The missiles might not even have warheads; if North Korea pretends to have entire cities where it doesn't, then who's to say they don't pretend to have warheads where they don't? \n But we do know North Korea has nukes, because the US gave them nukes. And other countries gave them nukes. And we all gave them money. \n The reason North Korea hates Trump so much is that, unlike other countries and US presidents in the past, he refuses to give them even the lint from his pocket. He understands the most basic rule of war: YOU DON'T ARM YOUR ENEMY. Trump can either continue appeasing our unstable enemy, making them stronger and allowing them to become an even bigger threat, or he can stand up to them the way previous presidents weren't able to do. \n Imagine you're the new kid at school, and there's a bully on the playground who runs around threatening all the other kids. Everyone gives him money, and some even give him weapons. What do you do? Do you also give him money and weapons, or do you threaten him back? Well if you're bigger and stronger than he is, you don't back down from him or give in to his demands. Trump is that new kid. He's not just making America great again, but he's making the whole world great. By standing up to North Korea, he stands up for everyone, even those poor souls in North Korea. \n And hey, if you don't see the logic in that, chew on this: Trump owns stake in several properties in Waikiki, namely hotels. If you don’t think he’s a good president, at least understand that he won’t let his own properties get destroyed. As Thomas Sowell said, \"It is hard to imagine a more stupid or more dangerous way of making decisions than by putting those decisions in the hands of people who pay no price for being wrong.\" If Trump is wrong and gets us bombed, he loses millions of dollars. Previous presidents didn't have that problem. Why did Bush allow 9-11-01 to happen? Well, did he own any property in New York? I think that if Trump were president then, he might've looked at our foreign policy and defense systems and think, \"Gee, I should make sure I don't get any of my hotels bombed.\"\n Trump isn't the type to partake in a false flag attack either. He's too honest; in fact, that's why he's so unpopular. He will boldly declare what others are too timid to subtly imply. \n I really hope there are no lawsuits over this. I'd hate for there to be any future hesitation in the minds of those responsible with warning us about an attack. 15 minutes to get to safety is a lot better than 10. I think Trump is doing the right thing, being hard on North Korea. I think Hawaii is safe. Trump will make sure America is protected. I trust his judgment and I trust our armed forces. I don't want nuclear war with North Korea. Nukes should be owned as a deterrent, but not used. Hawaii needs to make some changes though, just in case Oprah wins in 2020. If that happens, we'll need a bomb shelter in every backyard. \n\nIf you like what I write, please like, subscribe, upvote, and share. I'm blogging again to raise money for my kitten's surgery; she lost her leg and part of her jaw in a car engine. 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| body | We’re not ready. Saturday morning I woke up at five to catch the bus to work, since I started at eight. Less than ten minutes after I clocked in, my girlfriend sent me a screenshot of the infamous mass text: “BALLISTIC MISSILE THREAT INBOUND TO HAWAII. SEEK IMMEDIATE SHELTER. THIS IS NOT A DRILL.” I hadn’t gotten the message on my phone, probably because the state of Hawaii knows they can’t scare me with anti-Trump propaganda. I wasn’t worried. I trust my president and my military. I didn’t think for one second that Our President Trump would let us get attacked. As often as the news lies about him and misconstrues what he says and does, every move he makes is in OUR best interest; he really does put America first, unlike our past several presidents. But I wanted to ensure my coworkers felt safe and were all prepared, just in case the worst possibility happened. Right after she sent the text, she called me to make sure I got it. I was standing in the parking lot where I worked: a car dealership in Waipahu, not five miles Northwest of Pearl Harbor and around the same distance South of Wheeler Army Airfield in Wahiawa, two of the three most likely targets for an attack. My coworkers were also all on their phones talking to their families, looking confused and scared. I told her to tape up the window to our bedroom like we do for hurricanes (an annual event in Hawaii, we tape up our windows to keep the glass more or less intact during high winds, so they don’t blast apart and rip through our houses) and hide with the pets against the wall under a thick blanket. Then I made everyone who was standing around the parking lot with me walk to the safest area close by, which was a concrete hallway between the parking lot and the garage bay where the mechanics work. We all talked about what to do in a missile attack: stay away from glass, stay away from cars, find someplace secure, indoors. Vehicles are dangerous since they have glass and small parts, thin metal that can bend and rip you apart, and they’re not bolted to the ground. A parking lot is a mine field during a bomb. Huddled together in the tight concrete hallway, we theorized about whether or not there really was a missile coming. We talked about where our families were, if they’d be safe. In the background, the new missile siren blared. My boss locked up and told people they could either seek shelter at the big warehouse down the road or go home. I took the time to clock out and gather my things. My coworker invited me to his house, since I ride the bus and the busses probably weren’t running anyway; if anything, I wouldn’t have to wait at a bus stop for 30 minutes. Later I found out the busses were kicking riders off at the nearest bus stops and heading straight back to their depots, which could be a death sentence to passengers. A lady I work with was crying. People were having anxiety attacks. My friend took me to his house in the Palisades, a neighborhood up in the mountains above Pearl City, which was about a 10 minute drive. Later I learned that, had there been a real bomb, we would’ve vaporized on the road. When we got there, we watched the news with his family and their little fluffy dog. I wondered out loud how long it would take a missile from North Korea to reach us; his father-in-law answered without looking away from the TV. “72 minutes,” he said with confidence. Turns out he was wrong; it would only take 20. We were relieved to hear that it was a false alarm. It had been 38 minutes from the time the alert was sent out until the new text came to announce that there was no missile. I never got either text. The only text I got was my boss telling us all to return to work; although I told everyone to wait it out just in case, since oftentimes there are drills or some sort of false alarm before false flags, and it would be a good habit to instill in people to be more cautious. We were thinking there’d be lawsuits. We figured some people might have had heart attacks, which actually did happen. There was at least one heart attack death that I know of. His father-in-law was worried that people might’ve shot themselves to avoid the terror of death by radiation, fire, and debris. These were all things I didn’t think of, since I was so sure of our safety. Some things that actually happened during those 38 minutes—again, to reiterate, I was never sent a notification, so if I were alone somewhere I’d never know to take shelter if a missile really did come—people were running red lights, there were wrecks, 911 had to turn down calls because their lines were flooded, stores closed and kicked out customers, busses kicked riders off where they were (and some bus stops are in the middle of nowhere, some miles between any shelter). People were also doing end-of-the-world things, like letting their kids drink or expressing their love to their crush, calling their loved ones to tell them goodbye. In fact, someone's probably writing a script right now about a person confessing their secret love to another during the panic. But the main thing that really got me was just how unprepared we are. I’ve known since the first day I moved here that people in Hawaii generally aren’t the most… self-reliant, shall we say. Being a blue state, people are more inclined to expect government help, rather than take matters into their own hands to protect themselves. That’s why it’s illegal to carry guns here, or to even own a bulletproof vest. The downside of this is that people really don't know what to do in an emergency scenario like this one. They would rather drive 20 minutes to see their families than to wait it out in the nearest safe place and see their loved ones after. What's more preferable; to survive in a separate place than your family and reunite later, or to die trying to get to them? The road is the WORST place to be when a bomb goes off! Like I said before, cars aren't bolted down, they have loose parts made from metal and glass and toxic fluids, and it's outside. It takes a missile 20 minutes to fly from North Korea to Hawaii. At best, it takes five minutes for us to notice it, so we have 15 minutes until impact from the point of warning; assuming the warning comes instantly. People here didn't even know how much time they had, or where to go. There were plenty of people who thought it would take a missile two hours to reach us! I'm going to go over what should've happened, how we can better prepare ourselves, and then a few theories on WHY it happened. The first changes necessary for ensuring the maximum amount of people survive a bomb are at the state level. The next time there's a warning, the text should actually tell us what our window of time is. The text should've specified, "You have 15 minutes until impact." This is a simple change. That way people know to seek shelter immediately instead of driving across town to grab their kids from school or go home to their families. They acted as if they had an hour to get to safety, but really they would've had maybe 10 minutes. Knowing how much time you have affects your choices. I knew when my girlfriend called me that there'd be no time for her to catch the bus anywhere, so I told her to stay home. Our house is protected by a series of mountains from where the targets are. Public parks, also, could have cement buildings that are underground or partially underground for people to hide. The mountain ranges that take up most of the island are unused, why not tunnel inside them to build shelters? They could build them without even harming the precious view. Also, I'm not one for socialized healthcare, but what if the government were to issue out hazmat suits for the citizens of high-risk (of nuclear attack) locations? These changes are on the government, but the majority of changes need to happen from civilians. Businesses, public services, and people here need to change. For example, the bus kicking people off en masse. Sure, being on a bus you're not tied down, you're surrounded by big glass windows, and you're on the open road; but the busses could have at least taken the riders to the nearest shelter. Public schools and libraries are designated bomb shelters here, and they took in people seeking safety. If a bus dropped off people in a place where they would die instead of taking them to the nearest shelter where they could live, there could be a huge lawsuit on their hands for being responsible for those deaths. The same applies for Walmart, Costco, and Sam's Club. At least two of those places shut their doors and kicked everyone out, including their own employees. People were hiding their kids in sewers because Walmart turned them down. If a real bomb had dropped, then by the time they'd shut everything down, gotten the last customer out, and locked their doors, it'd be too late. Plus, if a lot of customers were kicked out of Walmart, or Sam's Club, a bomb hit and those customers died but Sam's Club or Walmart survived, there'd be a class action lawsuit against the corporations. The better option would be to close their doors, announce on the intercom for everyone to please calmly head to the center of the store (or wherever the safest part of the building is) and wait it out. Any stealing would far outweigh the cost of a lawsuit later. Businesses that didn't have good hiding places should've directed customers and employees to the nearest shelter. And all buildings that qualify, like Sam's Club and Walmart, should be deemed bomb shelters, and maybe given a tax write-off for it. Or, the whole market incentive to avoid lawsuits, whatever your flavor. The upside to this is the ridiculous potential profit for Hawaiian businesses. Home improvement companies could make a killing with installing bomb shelters at people’s homes. They could range from basic storage bunkers to self-sustained luxury shelters, stocked with hazmat suits, rations, etc. Energy companies like solar, wind, and coal could build kits for these shelters. Water companies could install all-new plumbing in them. Someone could make “bomb bags", some tough material backpack with emergency gear like a gas mask, hazmat suit, condensed protein bars, bulletproof vests (illegal in HI, but there could be exceptions), collapsible trench shovels, hatchets, first-aid gear, etc. The effects of bunkers going widespread could be tremendous; it could establish permanent underground cities free of bomb threats like in *SPOILER ALERT* Hunger Games, where the Capital stopped bombing District 13 because it wasn’t effective. And the cities could be something simple, like a network of underground tunnels between shelters, or to a central one. Hell, there could even be an app for sharing bomb shelters, or finding the nearest one. If we had this, then North Korea’s threats wouldn't be so effective, at least not to civilians. Pearl Harbor happened almost 80 years ago. It's about time Hawaii built more bomb shelters, both privately and publicly. It's ridiculous not to. So why was the alert sent? The official story is that some employee made a mistake, that during a shift change someone pressed the wrong button. That the test was only meant to be sent out amongst the units running it, not half the state. I don't buy that. My first thought when my girlfriend called me was that it really WAS a drill disguised as a real bomb, so people would practice what to do for real. People don’t react to drills properly like they would in a real situation. Look at the episode of The Office where they had a fire drill disguised as a real fire- there’s a Dwight at the DOD. People in Hawaii generally like to go to the beach and relax. If they know something is a drill, they won't let it interfere with their plans. But if they think it's real, they'll see how they actually handle themselves when they believe a bomb is coming. I also believe it was initiated for the state to observe the reaction of the people here, so they'd know how to handle us. Although I could see how there'd be a possibility for an accident. It's Pascal's Wager: better to set the alarm and it's fake, than to not set it and it's real. I doubt there's too many fail-safes for the alert button, because a 20 minute flight time and a minimum of five minutes for us to detect it, leaves us with a maximum potential of 15 minutes at best (I'd honestly give it 10, since there's no way to know how long it'd take for those who detect it to tell those who send out the alert, and for the alert to send to all the recipients) to get to safety. I'd rather the alert button guy have an itchy button hand than a timid one. Failsafes belong with those in charge of sending bombs, not with those who warn populations against them. There was once a false alarm during the Cold War with Russia. A Russian man, Stanislav Petrov, was one of the two men assigned the responsibility of sending a retaliatory nuclear bomb to the US. When they had a false alarm that the US had sent a nuke to Russia, he hesitated; he didn't turn the key. He is now known as the man who single-handedly saved the world from nuclear war. In some occupations, hesitation is a virtue. I've heard some other theories, of course. It could've been a disgruntled employee. It could've just been old equipment, or someone really just made a mistake; wouldn't be the first time someone in the military made one. It could've been a hack; wouldn't be the first time for that, either. Of course there are more unsettling theories. It's possible that North Korea really DID shoot a missile at us, but it failed mid-flight. Again, that wouldn't be a first. It could've been shot down by an advanced plane of ours that the military doesn't want us to know about yet, like the TR-3B. And if they did shoot it down, they might deny it since they aren't ready to go to war yet for some reason, and admitting that we were shot at would inevitably lead to war. People in Hawaii would freak out if they knew a missile was shot at us, even if our military stopped it. And why would North Korea shoot at us now, right after their peace talks with South Korea? It seems an odd move for them, since we are allies with South Korea. "We'll befriend you, but we're also going to kill those guys who have protected you from us since the 50s," is kind of a mixed message. They did just shoot one over Japan, but that was most likely as a show of force. If they shot one towards us, it'd probably be just to show us that they can. The missiles might not even have warheads; if North Korea pretends to have entire cities where it doesn't, then who's to say they don't pretend to have warheads where they don't? But we do know North Korea has nukes, because the US gave them nukes. And other countries gave them nukes. And we all gave them money. The reason North Korea hates Trump so much is that, unlike other countries and US presidents in the past, he refuses to give them even the lint from his pocket. He understands the most basic rule of war: YOU DON'T ARM YOUR ENEMY. Trump can either continue appeasing our unstable enemy, making them stronger and allowing them to become an even bigger threat, or he can stand up to them the way previous presidents weren't able to do. Imagine you're the new kid at school, and there's a bully on the playground who runs around threatening all the other kids. Everyone gives him money, and some even give him weapons. What do you do? Do you also give him money and weapons, or do you threaten him back? Well if you're bigger and stronger than he is, you don't back down from him or give in to his demands. Trump is that new kid. He's not just making America great again, but he's making the whole world great. By standing up to North Korea, he stands up for everyone, even those poor souls in North Korea. And hey, if you don't see the logic in that, chew on this: Trump owns stake in several properties in Waikiki, namely hotels. If you don’t think he’s a good president, at least understand that he won’t let his own properties get destroyed. As Thomas Sowell said, "It is hard to imagine a more stupid or more dangerous way of making decisions than by putting those decisions in the hands of people who pay no price for being wrong." If Trump is wrong and gets us bombed, he loses millions of dollars. Previous presidents didn't have that problem. Why did Bush allow 9-11-01 to happen? Well, did he own any property in New York? I think that if Trump were president then, he might've looked at our foreign policy and defense systems and think, "Gee, I should make sure I don't get any of my hotels bombed." Trump isn't the type to partake in a false flag attack either. He's too honest; in fact, that's why he's so unpopular. He will boldly declare what others are too timid to subtly imply. I really hope there are no lawsuits over this. I'd hate for there to be any future hesitation in the minds of those responsible with warning us about an attack. 15 minutes to get to safety is a lot better than 10. I think Trump is doing the right thing, being hard on North Korea. I think Hawaii is safe. Trump will make sure America is protected. I trust his judgment and I trust our armed forces. I don't want nuclear war with North Korea. Nukes should be owned as a deterrent, but not used. Hawaii needs to make some changes though, just in case Oprah wins in 2020. If that happens, we'll need a bomb shelter in every backyard. If you like what I write, please like, subscribe, upvote, and share. I'm blogging again to raise money for my kitten's surgery; she lost her leg and part of her jaw in a car engine. 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"body": "We’re not ready.\n\n Saturday morning I woke up at five to catch the bus to work, since I started at eight. Less than ten minutes after I clocked in, my girlfriend sent me a screenshot of the infamous mass text: “BALLISTIC MISSILE THREAT INBOUND TO HAWAII. SEEK IMMEDIATE SHELTER. THIS IS NOT A DRILL.” I hadn’t gotten the message on my phone, probably because the state of Hawaii knows they can’t scare me with anti-Trump propaganda. \n I wasn’t worried. I trust my president and my military. I didn’t think for one second that Our President Trump would let us get attacked. As often as the news lies about him and misconstrues what he says and does, every move he makes is in OUR best interest; he really does put America first, unlike our past several presidents. But I wanted to ensure my coworkers felt safe and were all prepared, just in case the worst possibility happened.\n Right after she sent the text, she called me to make sure I got it. I was standing in the parking lot where I worked: a car dealership in Waipahu, not five miles Northwest of Pearl Harbor and around the same distance South of Wheeler Army Airfield in Wahiawa, two of the three most likely targets for an attack. My coworkers were also all on their phones talking to their families, looking confused and scared. \n I told her to tape up the window to our bedroom like we do for hurricanes (an annual event in Hawaii, we tape up our windows to keep the glass more or less intact during high winds, so they don’t blast apart and rip through our houses) and hide with the pets against the wall under a thick blanket. Then I made everyone who was standing around the parking lot with me walk to the safest area close by, which was a concrete hallway between the parking lot and the garage bay where the mechanics work. We all talked about what to do in a missile attack: stay away from glass, stay away from cars, find someplace secure, indoors. Vehicles are dangerous since they have glass and small parts, thin metal that can bend and rip you apart, and they’re not bolted to the ground. A parking lot is a mine field during a bomb.\n Huddled together in the tight concrete hallway, we theorized about whether or not there really was a missile coming. We talked about where our families were, if they’d be safe. In the background, the new missile siren blared.\n My boss locked up and told people they could either seek shelter at the big warehouse down the road or go home. I took the time to clock out and gather my things. My coworker invited me to his house, since I ride the bus and the busses probably weren’t running anyway; if anything, I wouldn’t have to wait at a bus stop for 30 minutes. Later I found out the busses were kicking riders off at the nearest bus stops and heading straight back to their depots, which could be a death sentence to passengers.\n A lady I work with was crying. People were having anxiety attacks. My friend took me to his house in the Palisades, a neighborhood up in the mountains above Pearl City, which was about a 10 minute drive. Later I learned that, had there been a real bomb, we would’ve vaporized on the road. \n When we got there, we watched the news with his family and their little fluffy dog. I wondered out loud how long it would take a missile from North Korea to reach us; his father-in-law answered without looking away from the TV. “72 minutes,” he said with confidence. Turns out he was wrong; it would only take 20.\n We were relieved to hear that it was a false alarm. It had been 38 minutes from the time the alert was sent out until the new text came to announce that there was no missile. I never got either text. The only text I got was my boss telling us all to return to work; although I told everyone to wait it out just in case, since oftentimes there are drills or some sort of false alarm before false flags, and it would be a good habit to instill in people to be more cautious.\n We were thinking there’d be lawsuits. We figured some people might have had heart attacks, which actually did happen. There was at least one heart attack death that I know of. His father-in-law was worried that people might’ve shot themselves to avoid the terror of death by radiation, fire, and debris. These were all things I didn’t think of, since I was so sure of our safety.\n Some things that actually happened during those 38 minutes—again, to reiterate, I was never sent a notification, so if I were alone somewhere I’d never know to take shelter if a missile really did come—people were running red lights, there were wrecks, 911 had to turn down calls because their lines were flooded, stores closed and kicked out customers, busses kicked riders off where they were (and some bus stops are in the middle of nowhere, some miles between any shelter). People were also doing end-of-the-world things, like letting their kids drink or expressing their love to their crush, calling their loved ones to tell them goodbye. In fact, someone's probably writing a script right now about a person confessing their secret love to another during the panic.\n But the main thing that really got me was just how unprepared we are. I’ve known since the first day I moved here that people in Hawaii generally aren’t the most… self-reliant, shall we say. Being a blue state, people are more inclined to expect government help, rather than take matters into their own hands to protect themselves. That’s why it’s illegal to carry guns here, or to even own a bulletproof vest. \n The downside of this is that people really don't know what to do in an emergency scenario like this one. They would rather drive 20 minutes to see their families than to wait it out in the nearest safe place and see their loved ones after. What's more preferable; to survive in a separate place than your family and reunite later, or to die trying to get to them? The road is the WORST place to be when a bomb goes off! Like I said before, cars aren't bolted down, they have loose parts made from metal and glass and toxic fluids, and it's outside.\n It takes a missile 20 minutes to fly from North Korea to Hawaii. At best, it takes five minutes for us to notice it, so we have 15 minutes until impact from the point of warning; assuming the warning comes instantly. People here didn't even know how much time they had, or where to go. There were plenty of people who thought it would take a missile two hours to reach us! I'm going to go over what should've happened, how we can better prepare ourselves, and then a few theories on WHY it happened. \n The first changes necessary for ensuring the maximum amount of people survive a bomb are at the state level. The next time there's a warning, the text should actually tell us what our window of time is. The text should've specified, \"You have 15 minutes until impact.\" This is a simple change. That way people know to seek shelter immediately instead of driving across town to grab their kids from school or go home to their families. They acted as if they had an hour to get to safety, but really they would've had maybe 10 minutes. Knowing how much time you have affects your choices. I knew when my girlfriend called me that there'd be no time for her to catch the bus anywhere, so I told her to stay home. Our house is protected by a series of mountains from where the targets are. \n Public parks, also, could have cement buildings that are underground or partially underground for people to hide. The mountain ranges that take up most of the island are unused, why not tunnel inside them to build shelters? They could build them without even harming the precious view. Also, I'm not one for socialized healthcare, but what if the government were to issue out hazmat suits for the citizens of high-risk (of nuclear attack) locations? These changes are on the government, but the majority of changes need to happen from civilians. \n Businesses, public services, and people here need to change. For example, the bus kicking people off en masse. Sure, being on a bus you're not tied down, you're surrounded by big glass windows, and you're on the open road; but the busses could have at least taken the riders to the nearest shelter. Public schools and libraries are designated bomb shelters here, and they took in people seeking safety. If a bus dropped off people in a place where they would die instead of taking them to the nearest shelter where they could live, there could be a huge lawsuit on their hands for being responsible for those deaths. The same applies for Walmart, Costco, and Sam's Club. At least two of those places shut their doors and kicked everyone out, including their own employees. People were hiding their kids in sewers because Walmart turned them down. If a real bomb had dropped, then by the time they'd shut everything down, gotten the last customer out, and locked their doors, it'd be too late. Plus, if a lot of customers were kicked out of Walmart, or Sam's Club, a bomb hit and those customers died but Sam's Club or Walmart survived, there'd be a class action lawsuit against the corporations. The better option would be to close their doors, announce on the intercom for everyone to please calmly head to the center of the store (or wherever the safest part of the building is) and wait it out. Any stealing would far outweigh the cost of a lawsuit later. Businesses that didn't have good hiding places should've directed customers and employees to the nearest shelter. And all buildings that qualify, like Sam's Club and Walmart, should be deemed bomb shelters, and maybe given a tax write-off for it. Or, the whole market incentive to avoid lawsuits, whatever your flavor. \n The upside to this is the ridiculous potential profit for Hawaiian businesses. Home improvement companies could make a killing with installing bomb shelters at people’s homes. They could range from basic storage bunkers to self-sustained luxury shelters, stocked with hazmat suits, rations, etc. Energy companies like solar, wind, and coal could build kits for these shelters. Water companies could install all-new plumbing in them. Someone could make “bomb bags\", some tough material backpack with emergency gear like a gas mask, hazmat suit, condensed protein bars, bulletproof vests (illegal in HI, but there could be exceptions), collapsible trench shovels, hatchets, first-aid gear, etc. The effects of bunkers going widespread could be tremendous; it could establish permanent underground cities free of bomb threats like in *SPOILER ALERT* Hunger Games, where the Capital stopped bombing District 13 because it wasn’t effective. And the cities could be something simple, like a network of underground tunnels between shelters, or to a central one. Hell, there could even be an app for sharing bomb shelters, or finding the nearest one. If we had this, then North Korea’s threats wouldn't be so effective, at least not to civilians. \n Pearl Harbor happened almost 80 years ago. It's about time Hawaii built more bomb shelters, both privately and publicly. It's ridiculous not to. \n So why was the alert sent? The official story is that some employee made a mistake, that during a shift change someone pressed the wrong button. That the test was only meant to be sent out amongst the units running it, not half the state. I don't buy that.\n My first thought when my girlfriend called me was that it really WAS a drill disguised as a real bomb, so people would practice what to do for real. People don’t react to drills properly like they would in a real situation. Look at the episode of The Office where they had a fire drill disguised as a real fire- there’s a Dwight at the DOD. People in Hawaii generally like to go to the beach and relax. If they know something is a drill, they won't let it interfere with their plans. But if they think it's real, they'll see how they actually handle themselves when they believe a bomb is coming. I also believe it was initiated for the state to observe the reaction of the people here, so they'd know how to handle us. \n Although I could see how there'd be a possibility for an accident. It's Pascal's Wager: better to set the alarm and it's fake, than to not set it and it's real. I doubt there's too many fail-safes for the alert button, because a 20 minute flight time and a minimum of five minutes for us to detect it, leaves us with a maximum potential of 15 minutes at best (I'd honestly give it 10, since there's no way to know how long it'd take for those who detect it to tell those who send out the alert, and for the alert to send to all the recipients) to get to safety. I'd rather the alert button guy have an itchy button hand than a timid one. Failsafes belong with those in charge of sending bombs, not with those who warn populations against them.\n There was once a false alarm during the Cold War with Russia. A Russian man, Stanislav Petrov, was one of the two men assigned the responsibility of sending a retaliatory nuclear bomb to the US. When they had a false alarm that the US had sent a nuke to Russia, he hesitated; he didn't turn the key. He is now known as the man who single-handedly saved the world from nuclear war. In some occupations, hesitation is a virtue. \n I've heard some other theories, of course. It could've been a disgruntled employee. It could've just been old equipment, or someone really just made a mistake; wouldn't be the first time someone in the military made one. It could've been a hack; wouldn't be the first time for that, either. \n Of course there are more unsettling theories. It's possible that North Korea really DID shoot a missile at us, but it failed mid-flight. Again, that wouldn't be a first. It could've been shot down by an advanced plane of ours that the military doesn't want us to know about yet, like the TR-3B. And if they did shoot it down, they might deny it since they aren't ready to go to war yet for some reason, and admitting that we were shot at would inevitably lead to war. People in Hawaii would freak out if they knew a missile was shot at us, even if our military stopped it. \n And why would North Korea shoot at us now, right after their peace talks with South Korea? It seems an odd move for them, since we are allies with South Korea. \"We'll befriend you, but we're also going to kill those guys who have protected you from us since the 50s,\" is kind of a mixed message. They did just shoot one over Japan, but that was most likely as a show of force. If they shot one towards us, it'd probably be just to show us that they can. The missiles might not even have warheads; if North Korea pretends to have entire cities where it doesn't, then who's to say they don't pretend to have warheads where they don't? \n But we do know North Korea has nukes, because the US gave them nukes. And other countries gave them nukes. And we all gave them money. \n The reason North Korea hates Trump so much is that, unlike other countries and US presidents in the past, he refuses to give them even the lint from his pocket. He understands the most basic rule of war: YOU DON'T ARM YOUR ENEMY. Trump can either continue appeasing our unstable enemy, making them stronger and allowing them to become an even bigger threat, or he can stand up to them the way previous presidents weren't able to do. \n Imagine you're the new kid at school, and there's a bully on the playground who runs around threatening all the other kids. Everyone gives him money, and some even give him weapons. What do you do? Do you also give him money and weapons, or do you threaten him back? Well if you're bigger and stronger than he is, you don't back down from him or give in to his demands. Trump is that new kid. He's not just making America great again, but he's making the whole world great. By standing up to North Korea, he stands up for everyone, even those poor souls in North Korea. \n And hey, if you don't see the logic in that, chew on this: Trump owns stake in several properties in Waikiki, namely hotels. If you don’t think he’s a good president, at least understand that he won’t let his own properties get destroyed. As Thomas Sowell said, \"It is hard to imagine a more stupid or more dangerous way of making decisions than by putting those decisions in the hands of people who pay no price for being wrong.\" If Trump is wrong and gets us bombed, he loses millions of dollars. Previous presidents didn't have that problem. Why did Bush allow 9-11-01 to happen? Well, did he own any property in New York? I think that if Trump were president then, he might've looked at our foreign policy and defense systems and think, \"Gee, I should make sure I don't get any of my hotels bombed.\"\n Trump isn't the type to partake in a false flag attack either. He's too honest; in fact, that's why he's so unpopular. He will boldly declare what others are too timid to subtly imply. \n I really hope there are no lawsuits over this. I'd hate for there to be any future hesitation in the minds of those responsible with warning us about an attack. 15 minutes to get to safety is a lot better than 10. I think Trump is doing the right thing, being hard on North Korea. I think Hawaii is safe. Trump will make sure America is protected. I trust his judgment and I trust our armed forces. I don't want nuclear war with North Korea. Nukes should be owned as a deterrent, but not used. Hawaii needs to make some changes though, just in case Oprah wins in 2020. If that happens, we'll need a bomb shelter in every backyard. \n\nIf you like what I write, please like, subscribe, upvote, and share. I'm blogging again to raise money for my kitten's surgery; she lost her leg and part of her jaw in a car engine. If you'd like to donate, follow the gofundme link in my description. \n\nPayPal.me/ripleyremarkable\n\n #missilegate #hawaii #oahu #trump #maga\n #northkorea #missile #oprah #america #istandwithripley #saveripley #ripleyremarkable",
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| body | We’re not ready. Saturday morning I woke up at five to catch the bus to work, since I started at eight. Less than ten minutes after I clocked in, my girlfriend sent me a screenshot of the infamous mass text: “BALLISTIC MISSILE THREAT INBOUND TO HAWAII. SEEK IMMEDIATE SHELTER. THIS IS NOT A DRILL.” I hadn’t gotten the message on my phone, probably because the state of Hawaii knows they can’t scare me with anti-Trump propaganda. I wasn’t worried. I trust my president and my military. I didn’t think for one second that Our President Trump would let us get attacked. As often as the news lies about him and misconstrues what he says and does, every move he makes is in OUR best interest; he really does put America first, unlike our past several presidents. But I wanted to ensure my coworkers felt safe and were all prepared, just in case the worst possibility happened. Right after she sent the text, she called me to make sure I got it. I was standing in the parking lot where I worked: a car dealership in Waipahu, not five miles Northwest of Pearl Harbor and around the same distance South of Wheeler Army Airfield in Wahiawa, two of the three most likely targets for an attack. My coworkers were also all on their phones talking to their families, looking confused and scared. I told her to tape up the window to our bedroom like we do for hurricanes (an annual event in Hawaii, we tape up our windows to keep the glass more or less intact during high winds, so they don’t blast apart and rip through our houses) and hide with the pets against the wall under a thick blanket. Then I made everyone who was standing around the parking lot with me walk to the safest area close by, which was a concrete hallway between the parking lot and the garage bay where the mechanics work. We all talked about what to do in a missile attack: stay away from glass, stay away from cars, find someplace secure, indoors. Vehicles are dangerous since they have glass and small parts, thin metal that can bend and rip you apart, and they’re not bolted to the ground. A parking lot is a mine field during a bomb. Huddled together in the tight concrete hallway, we theorized about whether or not there really was a missile coming. We talked about where our families were, if they’d be safe. In the background, the new missile siren blared. My boss locked up and told people they could either seek shelter at the big warehouse down the road or go home. I took the time to clock out and gather my things. My coworker invited me to his house, since I ride the bus and the busses probably weren’t running anyway; if anything, I wouldn’t have to wait at a bus stop for 30 minutes. Later I found out the busses were kicking riders off at the nearest bus stops and heading straight back to their depots, which could be a death sentence to passengers. A lady I work with was crying. People were having anxiety attacks. My friend took me to his house in the Palisades, a neighborhood up in the mountains above Pearl City, which was about a 10 minute drive. Later I learned that, had there been a real bomb, we would’ve vaporized on the road. When we got there, we watched the news with his family and their little fluffy dog. I wondered out loud how long it would take a missile from North Korea to reach us; his father-in-law answered without looking away from the TV. “72 minutes,” he said with confidence. Turns out he was wrong; it would only take 20. We were relieved to hear that it was a false alarm. It had been 38 minutes from the time the alert was sent out until the new text came to announce that there was no missile. I never got either text. The only text I got was my boss telling us all to return to work; although I told everyone to wait it out just in case, since oftentimes there are drills or some sort of false alarm before false flags, and it would be a good habit to instill in people to be more cautious. We were thinking there’d be lawsuits. We figured some people might have had heart attacks, which actually did happen. There was at least one heart attack death that I know of. His father-in-law was worried that people might’ve shot themselves to avoid the terror of death by radiation, fire, and debris. These were all things I didn’t think of, since I was so sure of our safety. Some things that actually happened during those 38 minutes—again, to reiterate, I was never sent a notification, so if I were alone somewhere I’d never know to take shelter if a missile really did come—people were running red lights, there were wrecks, 911 had to turn down calls because their lines were flooded, stores closed and kicked out customers, busses kicked riders off where they were (and some bus stops are in the middle of nowhere, some miles between any shelter). People were also doing end-of-the-world things, like letting their kids drink or expressing their love to their crush, calling their loved ones to tell them goodbye. In fact, someone's probably writing a script right now about a person confessing their secret love to another during the panic. But the main thing that really got me was just how unprepared we are. I’ve known since the first day I moved here that people in Hawaii generally aren’t the most… self-reliant, shall we say. Being a blue state, people are more inclined to expect government help, rather than take matters into their own hands to protect themselves. That’s why it’s illegal to carry guns here, or to even own a bulletproof vest. The downside of this is that people really don't know what to do in an emergency scenario like this one. They would rather drive 20 minutes to see their families than to wait it out in the nearest safe place and see their loved ones after. What's more preferable; to survive in a separate place than your family and reunite later, or to die trying to get to them? The road is the WORST place to be when a bomb goes off! Like I said before, cars aren't bolted down, they have loose parts made from metal and glass and toxic fluids, and it's outside. It takes a missile 20 minutes to fly from North Korea to Hawaii. At best, it takes five minutes for us to notice it, so we have 15 minutes until impact from the point of warning; assuming the warning comes instantly. People here didn't even know how much time they had, or where to go. There were plenty of people who thought it would take a missile two hours to reach us! I'm going to go over what should've happened, how we can better prepare ourselves, and then a few theories on WHY it happened. The first changes necessary for ensuring the maximum amount of people survive a bomb are at the state level. The next time there's a warning, the text should actually tell us what our window of time is. The text should've specified, "You have 15 minutes until impact." This is a simple change. That way people know to seek shelter immediately instead of driving across town to grab their kids from school or go home to their families. They acted as if they had an hour to get to safety, but really they would've had maybe 10 minutes. Knowing how much time you have affects your choices. I knew when my girlfriend called me that there'd be no time for her to catch the bus anywhere, so I told her to stay home. Our house is protected by a series of mountains from where the targets are. Public parks, also, could have cement buildings that are underground or partially underground for people to hide. The mountain ranges that take up most of the island are unused, why not tunnel inside them to build shelters? They could build them without even harming the precious view. Also, I'm not one for socialized healthcare, but what if the government were to issue out hazmat suits for the citizens of high-risk (of nuclear attack) locations? These changes are on the government, but the majority of changes need to happen from civilians. Businesses, public services, and people here need to change. For example, the bus kicking people off en masse. Sure, being on a bus you're not tied down, you're surrounded by big glass windows, and you're on the open road; but the busses could have at least taken the riders to the nearest shelter. Public schools and libraries are designated bomb shelters here, and they took in people seeking safety. If a bus dropped off people in a place where they would die instead of taking them to the nearest shelter where they could live, there could be a huge lawsuit on their hands for being responsible for those deaths. The same applies for Walmart, Costco, and Sam's Club. At least two of those places shut their doors and kicked everyone out, including their own employees. People were hiding their kids in sewers because Walmart turned them down. If a real bomb had dropped, then by the time they'd shut everything down, gotten the last customer out, and locked their doors, it'd be too late. Plus, if a lot of customers were kicked out of Walmart, or Sam's Club, a bomb hit and those customers died but Sam's Club or Walmart survived, there'd be a class action lawsuit against the corporations. The better option would be to close their doors, announce on the intercom for everyone to please calmly head to the center of the store (or wherever the safest part of the building is) and wait it out. Any stealing would far outweigh the cost of a lawsuit later. Businesses that didn't have good hiding places should've directed customers and employees to the nearest shelter. And all buildings that qualify, like Sam's Club and Walmart, should be deemed bomb shelters, and maybe given a tax write-off for it. Or, the whole market incentive to avoid lawsuits, whatever your flavor. The upside to this is the ridiculous potential profit for Hawaiian businesses. Home improvement companies could make a killing with installing bomb shelters at people’s homes. They could range from basic storage bunkers to self-sustained luxury shelters, stocked with hazmat suits, rations, etc. Energy companies like solar, wind, and coal could build kits for these shelters. Water companies could install all-new plumbing in them. Someone could make “bomb bags", some tough material backpack with emergency gear like a gas mask, hazmat suit, condensed protein bars, bulletproof vests (illegal in HI, but there could be exceptions), collapsible trench shovels, hatchets, first-aid gear, etc. The effects of bunkers going widespread could be tremendous; it could establish permanent underground cities free of bomb threats like in *SPOILER ALERT* Hunger Games, where the Capital stopped bombing District 13 because it wasn’t effective. And the cities could be something simple, like a network of underground tunnels between shelters, or to a central one. Hell, there could even be an app for sharing bomb shelters, or finding the nearest one. If we had this, then North Korea’s threats wouldn't be so effective, at least not to civilians. Pearl Harbor happened almost 80 years ago. It's about time Hawaii built more bomb shelters, both privately and publicly. It's ridiculous not to. So why was the alert sent? The official story is that some employee made a mistake, that during a shift change someone pressed the wrong button. That the test was only meant to be sent out amongst the units running it, not half the state. I don't buy that. My first thought when my girlfriend called me was that it really WAS a drill disguised as a real bomb, so people would practice what to do for real. People don’t react to drills properly like they would in a real situation. Look at the episode of The Office where they had a fire drill disguised as a real fire- there’s a Dwight at the DOD. People in Hawaii generally like to go to the beach and relax. If they know something is a drill, they won't let it interfere with their plans. But if they think it's real, they'll see how they actually handle themselves when they believe a bomb is coming. I also believe it was initiated for the state to observe the reaction of the people here, so they'd know how to handle us. Although I could see how there'd be a possibility for an accident. It's Pascal's Wager: better to set the alarm and it's fake, than to not set it and it's real. I doubt there's too many fail-safes for the alert button, because a 20 minute flight time and a minimum of five minutes for us to detect it, leaves us with a maximum potential of 15 minutes at best (I'd honestly give it 10, since there's no way to know how long it'd take for those who detect it to tell those who send out the alert, and for the alert to send to all the recipients) to get to safety. I'd rather the alert button guy have an itchy button hand than a timid one. Failsafes belong with those in charge of sending bombs, not with those who warn populations against them. There was once a false alarm during the Cold War with Russia. A Russian man, Stanislav Petrov, was one of the two men assigned the responsibility of sending a retaliatory nuclear bomb to the US. When they had a false alarm that the US had sent a nuke to Russia, he hesitated; he didn't turn the key. He is now known as the man who single-handedly saved the world from nuclear war. In some occupations, hesitation is a virtue. I've heard some other theories, of course. It could've been a disgruntled employee. It could've just been old equipment, or someone really just made a mistake; wouldn't be the first time someone in the military made one. It could've been a hack; wouldn't be the first time for that, either. Of course there are more unsettling theories. It's possible that North Korea really DID shoot a missile at us, but it failed mid-flight. Again, that wouldn't be a first. It could've been shot down by an advanced plane of ours that the military doesn't want us to know about yet, like the TR-3B. And if they did shoot it down, they might deny it since they aren't ready to go to war yet for some reason, and admitting that we were shot at would inevitably lead to war. People in Hawaii would freak out if they knew a missile was shot at us, even if our military stopped it. And why would North Korea shoot at us now, right after their peace talks with South Korea? It seems an odd move for them, since we are allies with South Korea. "We'll befriend you, but we're also going to kill those guys who have protected you from us since the 50s," is kind of a mixed message. They did just shoot one over Japan, but that was most likely as a show of force. If they shot one towards us, it'd probably be just to show us that they can. The missiles might not even have warheads; if North Korea pretends to have entire cities where it doesn't, then who's to say they don't pretend to have warheads where they don't? But we do know North Korea has nukes, because the US gave them nukes. And other countries gave them nukes. And we all gave them money. The reason North Korea hates Trump so much is that, unlike other countries and US presidents in the past, he refuses to give them even the lint from his pocket. He understands the most basic rule of war: YOU DON'T ARM YOUR ENEMY. Trump can either continue appeasing our unstable enemy, making them stronger and allowing them to become an even bigger threat, or he can stand up to them the way previous presidents weren't able to do. Imagine you're the new kid at school, and there's a bully on the playground who runs around threatening all the other kids. Everyone gives him money, and some even give him weapons. What do you do? Do you also give him money and weapons, or do you threaten him back? Well if you're bigger and stronger than he is, you don't back down from him or give in to his demands. Trump is that new kid. He's not just making America great again, but he's making the whole world great. By standing up to North Korea, he stands up for everyone, even those poor souls in North Korea. And hey, if you don't see the logic in that, chew on this: Trump owns stake in several properties in Waikiki, namely hotels. If you don’t think he’s a good president, at least understand that he won’t let his own properties get destroyed. As Thomas Sowell said, "It is hard to imagine a more stupid or more dangerous way of making decisions than by putting those decisions in the hands of people who pay no price for being wrong." If Trump is wrong and gets us bombed, he loses millions of dollars. Previous presidents didn't have that problem. Why did Bush allow 9-11-01 to happen? Well, did he own any property in New York? I think that if Trump were president then, he might've looked at our foreign policy and defense systems and think, "Gee, I should make sure I don't get any of my hotels bombed." Trump isn't the type to partake in a false flag attack either. He's too honest; in fact, that's why he's so unpopular. He will boldly declare what others are too timid to subtly imply. I really hope there are no lawsuits over this. I'd hate for there to be any future hesitation in the minds of those responsible with warning us about an attack. 15 minutes to get to safety is a lot better than 10. I think Trump is doing the right thing, being hard on North Korea. I think Hawaii is safe. Trump will make sure America is protected. I trust his judgment and I trust our armed forces. I don't want nuclear war with North Korea. Nukes should be owned as a deterrent, but not used. Hawaii needs to make some changes though, just in case Oprah wins in 2020. If that happens, we'll need a bomb shelter in every backyard. If you like what I write, please like, subscribe, upvote, and share. I'm blogging again to raise money for my kitten's surgery; she lost her leg and part of her jaw in a car engine. 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"body": "We’re not ready.\n\n Saturday morning I woke up at five to catch the bus to work, since I started at eight. Less than ten minutes after I clocked in, my girlfriend sent me a screenshot of the infamous mass text: “BALLISTIC MISSILE THREAT INBOUND TO HAWAII. SEEK IMMEDIATE SHELTER. THIS IS NOT A DRILL.” I hadn’t gotten the message on my phone, probably because the state of Hawaii knows they can’t scare me with anti-Trump propaganda. \n I wasn’t worried. I trust my president and my military. I didn’t think for one second that Our President Trump would let us get attacked. As often as the news lies about him and misconstrues what he says and does, every move he makes is in OUR best interest; he really does put America first, unlike our past several presidents. But I wanted to ensure my coworkers felt safe and were all prepared, just in case the worst possibility happened.\n Right after she sent the text, she called me to make sure I got it. I was standing in the parking lot where I worked: a car dealership in Waipahu, not five miles Northwest of Pearl Harbor and around the same distance South of Wheeler Army Airfield in Wahiawa, two of the three most likely targets for an attack. My coworkers were also all on their phones talking to their families, looking confused and scared. \n I told her to tape up the window to our bedroom like we do for hurricanes (an annual event in Hawaii, we tape up our windows to keep the glass more or less intact during high winds, so they don’t blast apart and rip through our houses) and hide with the pets against the wall under a thick blanket. Then I made everyone who was standing around the parking lot with me walk to the safest area close by, which was a concrete hallway between the parking lot and the garage bay where the mechanics work. We all talked about what to do in a missile attack: stay away from glass, stay away from cars, find someplace secure, indoors. Vehicles are dangerous since they have glass and small parts, thin metal that can bend and rip you apart, and they’re not bolted to the ground. A parking lot is a mine field during a bomb.\n Huddled together in the tight concrete hallway, we theorized about whether or not there really was a missile coming. We talked about where our families were, if they’d be safe. In the background, the new missile siren blared.\n My boss locked up and told people they could either seek shelter at the big warehouse down the road or go home. I took the time to clock out and gather my things. My coworker invited me to his house, since I ride the bus and the busses probably weren’t running anyway; if anything, I wouldn’t have to wait at a bus stop for 30 minutes. Later I found out the busses were kicking riders off at the nearest bus stops and heading straight back to their depots, which could be a death sentence to passengers.\n A lady I work with was crying. People were having anxiety attacks. My friend took me to his house in the Palisades, a neighborhood up in the mountains above Pearl City, which was about a 10 minute drive. Later I learned that, had there been a real bomb, we would’ve vaporized on the road. \n When we got there, we watched the news with his family and their little fluffy dog. I wondered out loud how long it would take a missile from North Korea to reach us; his father-in-law answered without looking away from the TV. “72 minutes,” he said with confidence. Turns out he was wrong; it would only take 20.\n We were relieved to hear that it was a false alarm. It had been 38 minutes from the time the alert was sent out until the new text came to announce that there was no missile. I never got either text. The only text I got was my boss telling us all to return to work; although I told everyone to wait it out just in case, since oftentimes there are drills or some sort of false alarm before false flags, and it would be a good habit to instill in people to be more cautious.\n We were thinking there’d be lawsuits. We figured some people might have had heart attacks, which actually did happen. There was at least one heart attack death that I know of. His father-in-law was worried that people might’ve shot themselves to avoid the terror of death by radiation, fire, and debris. These were all things I didn’t think of, since I was so sure of our safety.\n Some things that actually happened during those 38 minutes—again, to reiterate, I was never sent a notification, so if I were alone somewhere I’d never know to take shelter if a missile really did come—people were running red lights, there were wrecks, 911 had to turn down calls because their lines were flooded, stores closed and kicked out customers, busses kicked riders off where they were (and some bus stops are in the middle of nowhere, some miles between any shelter). People were also doing end-of-the-world things, like letting their kids drink or expressing their love to their crush, calling their loved ones to tell them goodbye. In fact, someone's probably writing a script right now about a person confessing their secret love to another during the panic.\n But the main thing that really got me was just how unprepared we are. I’ve known since the first day I moved here that people in Hawaii generally aren’t the most… self-reliant, shall we say. Being a blue state, people are more inclined to expect government help, rather than take matters into their own hands to protect themselves. That’s why it’s illegal to carry guns here, or to even own a bulletproof vest. \n The downside of this is that people really don't know what to do in an emergency scenario like this one. They would rather drive 20 minutes to see their families than to wait it out in the nearest safe place and see their loved ones after. What's more preferable; to survive in a separate place than your family and reunite later, or to die trying to get to them? The road is the WORST place to be when a bomb goes off! Like I said before, cars aren't bolted down, they have loose parts made from metal and glass and toxic fluids, and it's outside.\n It takes a missile 20 minutes to fly from North Korea to Hawaii. At best, it takes five minutes for us to notice it, so we have 15 minutes until impact from the point of warning; assuming the warning comes instantly. People here didn't even know how much time they had, or where to go. There were plenty of people who thought it would take a missile two hours to reach us! I'm going to go over what should've happened, how we can better prepare ourselves, and then a few theories on WHY it happened. \n The first changes necessary for ensuring the maximum amount of people survive a bomb are at the state level. The next time there's a warning, the text should actually tell us what our window of time is. The text should've specified, \"You have 15 minutes until impact.\" This is a simple change. That way people know to seek shelter immediately instead of driving across town to grab their kids from school or go home to their families. They acted as if they had an hour to get to safety, but really they would've had maybe 10 minutes. Knowing how much time you have affects your choices. I knew when my girlfriend called me that there'd be no time for her to catch the bus anywhere, so I told her to stay home. Our house is protected by a series of mountains from where the targets are. \n Public parks, also, could have cement buildings that are underground or partially underground for people to hide. The mountain ranges that take up most of the island are unused, why not tunnel inside them to build shelters? They could build them without even harming the precious view. Also, I'm not one for socialized healthcare, but what if the government were to issue out hazmat suits for the citizens of high-risk (of nuclear attack) locations? These changes are on the government, but the majority of changes need to happen from civilians. \n Businesses, public services, and people here need to change. For example, the bus kicking people off en masse. Sure, being on a bus you're not tied down, you're surrounded by big glass windows, and you're on the open road; but the busses could have at least taken the riders to the nearest shelter. Public schools and libraries are designated bomb shelters here, and they took in people seeking safety. If a bus dropped off people in a place where they would die instead of taking them to the nearest shelter where they could live, there could be a huge lawsuit on their hands for being responsible for those deaths. The same applies for Walmart, Costco, and Sam's Club. At least two of those places shut their doors and kicked everyone out, including their own employees. People were hiding their kids in sewers because Walmart turned them down. If a real bomb had dropped, then by the time they'd shut everything down, gotten the last customer out, and locked their doors, it'd be too late. Plus, if a lot of customers were kicked out of Walmart, or Sam's Club, a bomb hit and those customers died but Sam's Club or Walmart survived, there'd be a class action lawsuit against the corporations. The better option would be to close their doors, announce on the intercom for everyone to please calmly head to the center of the store (or wherever the safest part of the building is) and wait it out. Any stealing would far outweigh the cost of a lawsuit later. Businesses that didn't have good hiding places should've directed customers and employees to the nearest shelter. And all buildings that qualify, like Sam's Club and Walmart, should be deemed bomb shelters, and maybe given a tax write-off for it. Or, the whole market incentive to avoid lawsuits, whatever your flavor. \n The upside to this is the ridiculous potential profit for Hawaiian businesses. Home improvement companies could make a killing with installing bomb shelters at people’s homes. They could range from basic storage bunkers to self-sustained luxury shelters, stocked with hazmat suits, rations, etc. Energy companies like solar, wind, and coal could build kits for these shelters. Water companies could install all-new plumbing in them. Someone could make “bomb bags\", some tough material backpack with emergency gear like a gas mask, hazmat suit, condensed protein bars, bulletproof vests (illegal in HI, but there could be exceptions), collapsible trench shovels, hatchets, first-aid gear, etc. The effects of bunkers going widespread could be tremendous; it could establish permanent underground cities free of bomb threats like in *SPOILER ALERT* Hunger Games, where the Capital stopped bombing District 13 because it wasn’t effective. And the cities could be something simple, like a network of underground tunnels between shelters, or to a central one. Hell, there could even be an app for sharing bomb shelters, or finding the nearest one. If we had this, then North Korea’s threats wouldn't be so effective, at least not to civilians. \n Pearl Harbor happened almost 80 years ago. It's about time Hawaii built more bomb shelters, both privately and publicly. It's ridiculous not to. \n So why was the alert sent? The official story is that some employee made a mistake, that during a shift change someone pressed the wrong button. That the test was only meant to be sent out amongst the units running it, not half the state. I don't buy that.\n My first thought when my girlfriend called me was that it really WAS a drill disguised as a real bomb, so people would practice what to do for real. People don’t react to drills properly like they would in a real situation. Look at the episode of The Office where they had a fire drill disguised as a real fire- there’s a Dwight at the DOD. People in Hawaii generally like to go to the beach and relax. If they know something is a drill, they won't let it interfere with their plans. But if they think it's real, they'll see how they actually handle themselves when they believe a bomb is coming. I also believe it was initiated for the state to observe the reaction of the people here, so they'd know how to handle us. \n Although I could see how there'd be a possibility for an accident. It's Pascal's Wager: better to set the alarm and it's fake, than to not set it and it's real. I doubt there's too many fail-safes for the alert button, because a 20 minute flight time and a minimum of five minutes for us to detect it, leaves us with a maximum potential of 15 minutes at best (I'd honestly give it 10, since there's no way to know how long it'd take for those who detect it to tell those who send out the alert, and for the alert to send to all the recipients) to get to safety. I'd rather the alert button guy have an itchy button hand than a timid one. Failsafes belong with those in charge of sending bombs, not with those who warn populations against them.\n There was once a false alarm during the Cold War with Russia. A Russian man, Stanislav Petrov, was one of the two men assigned the responsibility of sending a retaliatory nuclear bomb to the US. When they had a false alarm that the US had sent a nuke to Russia, he hesitated; he didn't turn the key. He is now known as the man who single-handedly saved the world from nuclear war. In some occupations, hesitation is a virtue. \n I've heard some other theories, of course. It could've been a disgruntled employee. It could've just been old equipment, or someone really just made a mistake; wouldn't be the first time someone in the military made one. It could've been a hack; wouldn't be the first time for that, either. \n Of course there are more unsettling theories. It's possible that North Korea really DID shoot a missile at us, but it failed mid-flight. Again, that wouldn't be a first. It could've been shot down by an advanced plane of ours that the military doesn't want us to know about yet, like the TR-3B. And if they did shoot it down, they might deny it since they aren't ready to go to war yet for some reason, and admitting that we were shot at would inevitably lead to war. People in Hawaii would freak out if they knew a missile was shot at us, even if our military stopped it. \n And why would North Korea shoot at us now, right after their peace talks with South Korea? It seems an odd move for them, since we are allies with South Korea. \"We'll befriend you, but we're also going to kill those guys who have protected you from us since the 50s,\" is kind of a mixed message. They did just shoot one over Japan, but that was most likely as a show of force. If they shot one towards us, it'd probably be just to show us that they can. The missiles might not even have warheads; if North Korea pretends to have entire cities where it doesn't, then who's to say they don't pretend to have warheads where they don't? \n But we do know North Korea has nukes, because the US gave them nukes. And other countries gave them nukes. And we all gave them money. \n The reason North Korea hates Trump so much is that, unlike other countries and US presidents in the past, he refuses to give them even the lint from his pocket. He understands the most basic rule of war: YOU DON'T ARM YOUR ENEMY. Trump can either continue appeasing our unstable enemy, making them stronger and allowing them to become an even bigger threat, or he can stand up to them the way previous presidents weren't able to do. \n Imagine you're the new kid at school, and there's a bully on the playground who runs around threatening all the other kids. Everyone gives him money, and some even give him weapons. What do you do? Do you also give him money and weapons, or do you threaten him back? Well if you're bigger and stronger than he is, you don't back down from him or give in to his demands. Trump is that new kid. He's not just making America great again, but he's making the whole world great. By standing up to North Korea, he stands up for everyone, even those poor souls in North Korea. \n And hey, if you don't see the logic in that, chew on this: Trump owns stake in several properties in Waikiki, namely hotels. If you don’t think he’s a good president, at least understand that he won’t let his own properties get destroyed. As Thomas Sowell said, \"It is hard to imagine a more stupid or more dangerous way of making decisions than by putting those decisions in the hands of people who pay no price for being wrong.\" If Trump is wrong and gets us bombed, he loses millions of dollars. Previous presidents didn't have that problem. Why did Bush allow 9-11-01 to happen? Well, did he own any property in New York? I think that if Trump were president then, he might've looked at our foreign policy and defense systems and think, \"Gee, I should make sure I don't get any of my hotels bombed.\"\n Trump isn't the type to partake in a false flag attack either. He's too honest; in fact, that's why he's so unpopular. He will boldly declare what others are too timid to subtly imply. \n I really hope there are no lawsuits over this. I'd hate for there to be any future hesitation in the minds of those responsible with warning us about an attack. 15 minutes to get to safety is a lot better than 10. I think Trump is doing the right thing, being hard on North Korea. I think Hawaii is safe. Trump will make sure America is protected. I trust his judgment and I trust our armed forces. I don't want nuclear war with North Korea. Nukes should be owned as a deterrent, but not used. Hawaii needs to make some changes though, just in case Oprah wins in 2020. If that happens, we'll need a bomb shelter in every backyard. \n\nIf you like what I write, please like, subscribe, upvote, and share. I'm blogging again to raise money for my kitten's surgery; she lost her leg and part of her jaw in a car engine. If you'd like to donate, follow the gofundme link in my description. \n\nPayPal.me/ripleyremarkable\n\n #missilegate #hawaii #oahu #trump #maga\n #northkorea #missile #oprah #america #istandwithripley #saveripley #ripleyremarkable",
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| body | We’re not ready. Saturday morning I woke up at five to catch the bus to work, since I started at eight. Less than ten minutes after I clocked in, my girlfriend sent me a screenshot of the infamous mass text: “BALLISTIC MISSILE THREAT INBOUND TO HAWAII. SEEK IMMEDIATE SHELTER. THIS IS NOT A DRILL.” I hadn’t gotten the message on my phone, probably because the state of Hawaii knows they can’t scare me with anti-Trump propaganda. I wasn’t worried. I trust my president and my military. I didn’t think for one second that Our President Trump would let us get attacked. As often as the news lies about him and misconstrues what he says and does, every move he makes is in OUR best interest; he really does put America first, unlike our past several presidents. But I wanted to ensure my coworkers felt safe and were all prepared, just in case the worst possibility happened. Right after she sent the text, she called me to make sure I got it. I was standing in the parking lot where I worked: a car dealership in Waipahu, not five miles Northwest of Pearl Harbor and around the same distance South of Wheeler Army Airfield in Wahiawa, two of the three most likely targets for an attack. My coworkers were also all on their phones talking to their families, looking confused and scared. I told her to tape up the window to our bedroom like we do for hurricanes (an annual event in Hawaii, we tape up our windows to keep the glass more or less intact during high winds, so they don’t blast apart and rip through our houses) and hide with the pets against the wall under a thick blanket. Then I made everyone who was standing around the parking lot with me walk to the safest area close by, which was a concrete hallway between the parking lot and the garage bay where the mechanics work. We all talked about what to do in a missile attack: stay away from glass, stay away from cars, find someplace secure, indoors. Vehicles are dangerous since they have glass and small parts, thin metal that can bend and rip you apart, and they’re not bolted to the ground. A parking lot is a mine field during a bomb. Huddled together in the tight concrete hallway, we theorized about whether or not there really was a missile coming. We talked about where our families were, if they’d be safe. In the background, the new missile siren blared. My boss locked up and told people they could either seek shelter at the big warehouse down the road or go home. I took the time to clock out and gather my things. My coworker invited me to his house, since I ride the bus and the busses probably weren’t running anyway; if anything, I wouldn’t have to wait at a bus stop for 30 minutes. Later I found out the busses were kicking riders off at the nearest bus stops and heading straight back to their depots, which could be a death sentence to passengers. A lady I work with was crying. People were having anxiety attacks. My friend took me to his house in the Palisades, a neighborhood up in the mountains above Pearl City, which was about a 10 minute drive. Later I learned that, had there been a real bomb, we would’ve vaporized on the road. When we got there, we watched the news with his family and their little fluffy dog. I wondered out loud how long it would take a missile from North Korea to reach us; his father-in-law answered without looking away from the TV. “72 minutes,” he said with confidence. Turns out he was wrong; it would only take 20. We were relieved to hear that it was a false alarm. It had been 38 minutes from the time the alert was sent out until the new text came to announce that there was no missile. I never got either text. The only text I got was my boss telling us all to return to work; although I told everyone to wait it out just in case, since oftentimes there are drills or some sort of false alarm before false flags, and it would be a good habit to instill in people to be more cautious. We were thinking there’d be lawsuits. We figured some people might have had heart attacks, which actually did happen. There was at least one heart attack death that I know of. His father-in-law was worried that people might’ve shot themselves to avoid the terror of death by radiation, fire, and debris. These were all things I didn’t think of, since I was so sure of our safety. Some things that actually happened during those 38 minutes—again, to reiterate, I was never sent a notification, so if I were alone somewhere I’d never know to take shelter if a missile really did come—people were running red lights, there were wrecks, 911 had to turn down calls because their lines were flooded, stores closed and kicked out customers, busses kicked riders off where they were (and some bus stops are in the middle of nowhere, some miles between any shelter). People were also doing end-of-the-world things, like letting their kids drink or expressing their love to their crush, calling their loved ones to tell them goodbye. In fact, someone's probably writing a script right now about a person confessing their secret love to another during the panic. But the main thing that really got me was just how unprepared we are. I’ve known since the first day I moved here that people in Hawaii generally aren’t the most… self-reliant, shall we say. Being a blue state, people are more inclined to expect government help, rather than take matters into their own hands to protect themselves. That’s why it’s illegal to carry guns here, or to even own a bulletproof vest. The downside of this is that people really don't know what to do in an emergency scenario like this one. They would rather drive 20 minutes to see their families than to wait it out in the nearest safe place and see their loved ones after. What's more preferable; to survive in a separate place than your family and reunite later, or to die trying to get to them? The road is the WORST place to be when a bomb goes off! Like I said before, cars aren't bolted down, they have loose parts made from metal and glass and toxic fluids, and it's outside. It takes a missile 20 minutes to fly from North Korea to Hawaii. At best, it takes five minutes for us to notice it, so we have 15 minutes until impact from the point of warning; assuming the warning comes instantly. People here didn't even know how much time they had, or where to go. There were plenty of people who thought it would take a missile two hours to reach us! I'm going to go over what should've happened, how we can better prepare ourselves, and then a few theories on WHY it happened. The first changes necessary for ensuring the maximum amount of people survive a bomb are at the state level. The next time there's a warning, the text should actually tell us what our window of time is. The text should've specified, "You have 15 minutes until impact." This is a simple change. That way people know to seek shelter immediately instead of driving across town to grab their kids from school or go home to their families. They acted as if they had an hour to get to safety, but really they would've had maybe 10 minutes. Knowing how much time you have affects your choices. I knew when my girlfriend called me that there'd be no time for her to catch the bus anywhere, so I told her to stay home. Our house is protected by a series of mountains from where the targets are. Public parks, also, could have cement buildings that are underground or partially underground for people to hide. The mountain ranges that take up most of the island are unused, why not tunnel inside them to build shelters? They could build them without even harming the precious view. Also, I'm not one for socialized healthcare, but what if the government were to issue out hazmat suits for the citizens of high-risk (of nuclear attack) locations? These changes are on the government, but the majority of changes need to happen from civilians. Businesses, public services, and people here need to change. For example, the bus kicking people off en masse. Sure, being on a bus you're not tied down, you're surrounded by big glass windows, and you're on the open road; but the busses could have at least taken the riders to the nearest shelter. Public schools and libraries are designated bomb shelters here, and they took in people seeking safety. If a bus dropped off people in a place where they would die instead of taking them to the nearest shelter where they could live, there could be a huge lawsuit on their hands for being responsible for those deaths. The same applies for Walmart, Costco, and Sam's Club. At least two of those places shut their doors and kicked everyone out, including their own employees. People were hiding their kids in sewers because Walmart turned them down. If a real bomb had dropped, then by the time they'd shut everything down, gotten the last customer out, and locked their doors, it'd be too late. Plus, if a lot of customers were kicked out of Walmart, or Sam's Club, a bomb hit and those customers died but Sam's Club or Walmart survived, there'd be a class action lawsuit against the corporations. The better option would be to close their doors, announce on the intercom for everyone to please calmly head to the center of the store (or wherever the safest part of the building is) and wait it out. Any stealing would far outweigh the cost of a lawsuit later. Businesses that didn't have good hiding places should've directed customers and employees to the nearest shelter. And all buildings that qualify, like Sam's Club and Walmart, should be deemed bomb shelters, and maybe given a tax write-off for it. Or, the whole market incentive to avoid lawsuits, whatever your flavor. The upside to this is the ridiculous potential profit for Hawaiian businesses. Home improvement companies could make a killing with installing bomb shelters at people’s homes. They could range from basic storage bunkers to self-sustained luxury shelters, stocked with hazmat suits, rations, etc. Energy companies like solar, wind, and coal could build kits for these shelters. Water companies could install all-new plumbing in them. Someone could make “bomb bags", some tough material backpack with emergency gear like a gas mask, hazmat suit, condensed protein bars, bulletproof vests (illegal in HI, but there could be exceptions), collapsible trench shovels, hatchets, first-aid gear, etc. The effects of bunkers going widespread could be tremendous; it could establish permanent underground cities free of bomb threats like in *SPOILER ALERT* Hunger Games, where the Capital stopped bombing District 13 because it wasn’t effective. And the cities could be something simple, like a network of underground tunnels between shelters, or to a central one. Hell, there could even be an app for sharing bomb shelters, or finding the nearest one. If we had this, then North Korea’s threats wouldn't be so effective, at least not to civilians. Pearl Harbor happened almost 80 years ago. It's about time Hawaii built more bomb shelters, both privately and publicly. It's ridiculous not to. So why was the alert sent? The official story is that some employee made a mistake, that during a shift change someone pressed the wrong button. That the test was only meant to be sent out amongst the units running it, not half the state. I don't buy that. My first thought when my girlfriend called me was that it really WAS a drill disguised as a real bomb, so people would practice what to do for real. People don’t react to drills properly like they would in a real situation. Look at the episode of The Office where they had a fire drill disguised as a real fire- there’s a Dwight at the DOD. People in Hawaii generally like to go to the beach and relax. If they know something is a drill, they won't let it interfere with their plans. But if they think it's real, they'll see how they actually handle themselves when they believe a bomb is coming. I also believe it was initiated for the state to observe the reaction of the people here, so they'd know how to handle us. Although I could see how there'd be a possibility for an accident. It's Pascal's Wager: better to set the alarm and it's fake, than to not set it and it's real. I doubt there's too many fail-safes for the alert button, because a 20 minute flight time and a minimum of five minutes for us to detect it, leaves us with a maximum potential of 15 minutes at best (I'd honestly give it 10, since there's no way to know how long it'd take for those who detect it to tell those who send out the alert, and for the alert to send to all the recipients) to get to safety. I'd rather the alert button guy have an itchy button hand than a timid one. Failsafes belong with those in charge of sending bombs, not with those who warn populations against them. There was once a false alarm during the Cold War with Russia. A Russian man, Stanislav Petrov, was one of the two men assigned the responsibility of sending a retaliatory nuclear bomb to the US. When they had a false alarm that the US had sent a nuke to Russia, he hesitated; he didn't turn the key. He is now known as the man who single-handedly saved the world from nuclear war. In some occupations, hesitation is a virtue. I've heard some other theories, of course. It could've been a disgruntled employee. It could've just been old equipment, or someone really just made a mistake; wouldn't be the first time someone in the military made one. It could've been a hack; wouldn't be the first time for that, either. Of course there are more unsettling theories. It's possible that North Korea really DID shoot a missile at us, but it failed mid-flight. Again, that wouldn't be a first. It could've been shot down by an advanced plane of ours that the military doesn't want us to know about yet, like the TR-3B. And if they did shoot it down, they might deny it since they aren't ready to go to war yet for some reason, and admitting that we were shot at would inevitably lead to war. People in Hawaii would freak out if they knew a missile was shot at us, even if our military stopped it. And why would North Korea shoot at us now, right after their peace talks with South Korea? It seems an odd move for them, since we are allies with South Korea. "We'll befriend you, but we're also going to kill those guys who have protected you from us since the 50s," is kind of a mixed message. They did just shoot one over Japan, but that was most likely as a show of force. If they shot one towards us, it'd probably be just to show us that they can. The missiles might not even have warheads; if North Korea pretends to have entire cities where it doesn't, then who's to say they don't pretend to have warheads where they don't? But we do know North Korea has nukes, because the US gave them nukes. And other countries gave them nukes. And we all gave them money. The reason North Korea hates Trump so much is that, unlike other countries and US presidents in the past, he refuses to give them even the lint from his pocket. He understands the most basic rule of war: YOU DON'T ARM YOUR ENEMY. Trump can either continue appeasing our unstable enemy, making them stronger and allowing them to become an even bigger threat, or he can stand up to them the way previous presidents weren't able to do. Imagine you're the new kid at school, and there's a bully on the playground who runs around threatening all the other kids. Everyone gives him money, and some even give him weapons. What do you do? Do you also give him money and weapons, or do you threaten him back? Well if you're bigger and stronger than he is, you don't back down from him or give in to his demands. Trump is that new kid. He's not just making America great again, but he's making the whole world great. By standing up to North Korea, he stands up for everyone, even those poor souls in North Korea. And hey, if you don't see the logic in that, chew on this: Trump owns stake in several properties in Waikiki, namely hotels. If you don’t think he’s a good president, at least understand that he won’t let his own properties get destroyed. As Thomas Sowell said, "It is hard to imagine a more stupid or more dangerous way of making decisions than by putting those decisions in the hands of people who pay no price for being wrong." If Trump is wrong and gets us bombed, he loses millions of dollars. Previous presidents didn't have that problem. Why did Bush allow 9-11-01 to happen? Well, did he own any property in New York? I think that if Trump were president then, he might've looked at our foreign policy and defense systems and think, "Gee, I should make sure I don't get any of my hotels bombed." Trump isn't the type to partake in a false flag attack either. He's too honest; in fact, that's why he's so unpopular. He will boldly declare what others are too timid to subtly imply. I really hope there are no lawsuits over this. I'd hate for there to be any future hesitation in the minds of those responsible with warning us about an attack. 15 minutes to get to safety is a lot better than 10. I think Trump is doing the right thing, being hard on North Korea. I think Hawaii is safe. Trump will make sure America is protected. I trust his judgment and I trust our armed forces. I don't want nuclear war with North Korea. Nukes should be owned as a deterrent, but not used. Hawaii needs to make some changes though, just in case Oprah wins in 2020. If that happens, we'll need a bomb shelter in every backyard. If you like what I write, please like, subscribe, upvote, and share. I'm blogging again to raise money for my kitten's surgery; she lost her leg and part of her jaw in a car engine. If you'd like to donate, follow the link in my description. paypal.me/ripleyremarkable #missilegate #hawaii #oahu #trump #maga #northkorea #missile #oprah #america #saveripley #istandwithripley #ripleyremarkable |
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"body": "We’re not ready.\n\n Saturday morning I woke up at five to catch the bus to work, since I started at eight. Less than ten minutes after I clocked in, my girlfriend sent me a screenshot of the infamous mass text: “BALLISTIC MISSILE THREAT INBOUND TO HAWAII. SEEK IMMEDIATE SHELTER. THIS IS NOT A DRILL.” I hadn’t gotten the message on my phone, probably because the state of Hawaii knows they can’t scare me with anti-Trump propaganda. \n I wasn’t worried. I trust my president and my military. I didn’t think for one second that Our President Trump would let us get attacked. As often as the news lies about him and misconstrues what he says and does, every move he makes is in OUR best interest; he really does put America first, unlike our past several presidents. But I wanted to ensure my coworkers felt safe and were all prepared, just in case the worst possibility happened.\n Right after she sent the text, she called me to make sure I got it. I was standing in the parking lot where I worked: a car dealership in Waipahu, not five miles Northwest of Pearl Harbor and around the same distance South of Wheeler Army Airfield in Wahiawa, two of the three most likely targets for an attack. My coworkers were also all on their phones talking to their families, looking confused and scared. \n I told her to tape up the window to our bedroom like we do for hurricanes (an annual event in Hawaii, we tape up our windows to keep the glass more or less intact during high winds, so they don’t blast apart and rip through our houses) and hide with the pets against the wall under a thick blanket. Then I made everyone who was standing around the parking lot with me walk to the safest area close by, which was a concrete hallway between the parking lot and the garage bay where the mechanics work. We all talked about what to do in a missile attack: stay away from glass, stay away from cars, find someplace secure, indoors. Vehicles are dangerous since they have glass and small parts, thin metal that can bend and rip you apart, and they’re not bolted to the ground. A parking lot is a mine field during a bomb.\n Huddled together in the tight concrete hallway, we theorized about whether or not there really was a missile coming. We talked about where our families were, if they’d be safe. In the background, the new missile siren blared.\n My boss locked up and told people they could either seek shelter at the big warehouse down the road or go home. I took the time to clock out and gather my things. My coworker invited me to his house, since I ride the bus and the busses probably weren’t running anyway; if anything, I wouldn’t have to wait at a bus stop for 30 minutes. Later I found out the busses were kicking riders off at the nearest bus stops and heading straight back to their depots, which could be a death sentence to passengers.\n A lady I work with was crying. People were having anxiety attacks. My friend took me to his house in the Palisades, a neighborhood up in the mountains above Pearl City, which was about a 10 minute drive. Later I learned that, had there been a real bomb, we would’ve vaporized on the road. \n When we got there, we watched the news with his family and their little fluffy dog. I wondered out loud how long it would take a missile from North Korea to reach us; his father-in-law answered without looking away from the TV. “72 minutes,” he said with confidence. Turns out he was wrong; it would only take 20.\n We were relieved to hear that it was a false alarm. It had been 38 minutes from the time the alert was sent out until the new text came to announce that there was no missile. I never got either text. The only text I got was my boss telling us all to return to work; although I told everyone to wait it out just in case, since oftentimes there are drills or some sort of false alarm before false flags, and it would be a good habit to instill in people to be more cautious.\n We were thinking there’d be lawsuits. We figured some people might have had heart attacks, which actually did happen. There was at least one heart attack death that I know of. His father-in-law was worried that people might’ve shot themselves to avoid the terror of death by radiation, fire, and debris. These were all things I didn’t think of, since I was so sure of our safety.\n Some things that actually happened during those 38 minutes—again, to reiterate, I was never sent a notification, so if I were alone somewhere I’d never know to take shelter if a missile really did come—people were running red lights, there were wrecks, 911 had to turn down calls because their lines were flooded, stores closed and kicked out customers, busses kicked riders off where they were (and some bus stops are in the middle of nowhere, some miles between any shelter). People were also doing end-of-the-world things, like letting their kids drink or expressing their love to their crush, calling their loved ones to tell them goodbye. In fact, someone's probably writing a script right now about a person confessing their secret love to another during the panic.\n But the main thing that really got me was just how unprepared we are. I’ve known since the first day I moved here that people in Hawaii generally aren’t the most… self-reliant, shall we say. Being a blue state, people are more inclined to expect government help, rather than take matters into their own hands to protect themselves. That’s why it’s illegal to carry guns here, or to even own a bulletproof vest.\t\n The downside of this is that people really don't know what to do in an emergency scenario like this one. They would rather drive 20 minutes to see their families than to wait it out in the nearest safe place and see their loved ones after. What's more preferable; to survive in a separate place than your family and reunite later, or to die trying to get to them? The road is the WORST place to be when a bomb goes off! Like I said before, cars aren't bolted down, they have loose parts made from metal and glass and toxic fluids, and it's outside.\n It takes a missile 20 minutes to fly from North Korea to Hawaii. At best, it takes five minutes for us to notice it, so we have 15 minutes until impact from the point of warning; assuming the warning comes instantly. People here didn't even know how much time they had, or where to go. There were plenty of people who thought it would take a missile two hours to reach us! I'm going to go over what should've happened, how we can better prepare ourselves, and then a few theories on WHY it happened. \n The first changes necessary for ensuring the maximum amount of people survive a bomb are at the state level. The next time there's a warning, the text should actually tell us what our window of time is. The text should've specified, \"You have 15 minutes until impact.\" This is a simple change. That way people know to seek shelter immediately instead of driving across town to grab their kids from school or go home to their families. They acted as if they had an hour to get to safety, but really they would've had maybe 10 minutes. Knowing how much time you have affects your choices. I knew when my girlfriend called me that there'd be no time for her to catch the bus anywhere, so I told her to stay home. Our house is protected by a series of mountains from where the targets are. \n Public parks, also, could have cement buildings that are underground or partially underground for people to hide. The mountain ranges that take up most of the island are unused, why not tunnel inside them to build shelters? They could build them without even harming the precious view. Also, I'm not one for socialized healthcare, but what if the government were to issue out hazmat suits for the citizens of high-risk (of nuclear attack) locations? These changes are on the government, but the majority of changes need to happen from civilians. \n Businesses, public services, and people here need to change. For example, the bus kicking people off en masse. Sure, being on a bus you're not tied down, you're surrounded by big glass windows, and you're on the open road; but the busses could have at least taken the riders to the nearest shelter. Public schools and libraries are designated bomb shelters here, and they took in people seeking safety. If a bus dropped off people in a place where they would die instead of taking them to the nearest shelter where they could live, there could be a huge lawsuit on their hands for being responsible for those deaths. The same applies for Walmart, Costco, and Sam's Club. At least two of those places shut their doors and kicked everyone out, including their own employees. People were hiding their kids in sewers because Walmart turned them down. If a real bomb had dropped, then by the time they'd shut everything down, gotten the last customer out, and locked their doors, it'd be too late. Plus, if a lot of customers were kicked out of Walmart, or Sam's Club, a bomb hit and those customers died but Sam's Club or Walmart survived, there'd be a class action lawsuit against the corporations. The better option would be to close their doors, announce on the intercom for everyone to please calmly head to the center of the store (or wherever the safest part of the building is) and wait it out. Any stealing would far outweigh the cost of a lawsuit later. Businesses that didn't have good hiding places should've directed customers and employees to the nearest shelter. And all buildings that qualify, like Sam's Club and Walmart, should be deemed bomb shelters, and maybe given a tax write-off for it. Or, the whole market incentive to avoid lawsuits, whatever your flavor. \n The upside to this is the ridiculous potential profit for Hawaiian businesses. Home improvement companies could make a killing with installing bomb shelters at people’s homes. They could range from basic storage bunkers to self-sustained luxury shelters, stocked with hazmat suits, rations, etc. Energy companies like solar, wind, and coal could build kits for these shelters. Water companies could install all-new plumbing in them. Someone could make “bomb bags\", some tough material backpack with emergency gear like a gas mask, hazmat suit, condensed protein bars, bulletproof vests (illegal in HI, but there could be exceptions), collapsible trench shovels, hatchets, first-aid gear, etc. The effects of bunkers going widespread could be tremendous; it could establish permanent underground cities free of bomb threats like in *SPOILER ALERT* Hunger Games, where the Capital stopped bombing District 13 because it wasn’t effective. And the cities could be something simple, like a network of underground tunnels between shelters, or to a central one. Hell, there could even be an app for sharing bomb shelters, or finding the nearest one. If we had this, then North Korea’s threats wouldn't be so effective, at least not to civilians. \n Pearl Harbor happened almost 80 years ago. It's about time Hawaii built more bomb shelters, both privately and publicly. It's ridiculous not to. \n So why was the alert sent? The official story is that some employee made a mistake, that during a shift change someone pressed the wrong button. That the test was only meant to be sent out amongst the units running it, not half the state. I don't buy that.\n My first thought when my girlfriend called me was that it really WAS a drill disguised as a real bomb, so people would practice what to do for real. People don’t react to drills properly like they would in a real situation. Look at the episode of The Office where they had a fire drill disguised as a real fire- there’s a Dwight at the DOD. People in Hawaii generally like to go to the beach and relax. If they know something is a drill, they won't let it interfere with their plans. 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Failsafes belong with those in charge of sending bombs, not with those who warn populations against them.\n There was once a false alarm during the Cold War with Russia. A Russian man, Stanislav Petrov, was one of the two men assigned the responsibility of sending a retaliatory nuclear bomb to the US. When they had a false alarm that the US had sent a nuke to Russia, he hesitated; he didn't turn the key. He is now known as the man who single-handedly saved the world from nuclear war. In some occupations, hesitation is a virtue. \n I've heard some other theories, of course. It could've been a disgruntled employee. It could've just been old equipment, or someone really just made a mistake; wouldn't be the first time someone in the military made one. It could've been a hack; wouldn't be the first time for that, either. \n Of course there are more unsettling theories. It's possible that North Korea really DID shoot a missile at us, but it failed mid-flight. Again, that wouldn't be a first. It could've been shot down by an advanced plane of ours that the military doesn't want us to know about yet, like the TR-3B. And if they did shoot it down, they might deny it since they aren't ready to go to war yet for some reason, and admitting that we were shot at would inevitably lead to war. People in Hawaii would freak out if they knew a missile was shot at us, even if our military stopped it. \n And why would North Korea shoot at us now, right after their peace talks with South Korea? It seems an odd move for them, since we are allies with South Korea. \"We'll befriend you, but we're also going to kill those guys who have protected you from us since the 50s,\" is kind of a mixed message. They did just shoot one over Japan, but that was most likely as a show of force. If they shot one towards us, it'd probably be just to show us that they can. The missiles might not even have warheads; if North Korea pretends to have entire cities where it doesn't, then who's to say they don't pretend to have warheads where they don't? \n But we do know North Korea has nukes, because the US gave them nukes. And other countries gave them nukes. And we all gave them money. \n The reason North Korea hates Trump so much is that, unlike other countries and US presidents in the past, he refuses to give them even the lint from his pocket. He understands the most basic rule of war: YOU DON'T ARM YOUR ENEMY. Trump can either continue appeasing our unstable enemy, making them stronger and allowing them to become an even bigger threat, or he can stand up to them the way previous presidents weren't able to do. \n Imagine you're the new kid at school, and there's a bully on the playground who runs around threatening all the other kids. Everyone gives him money, and some even give him weapons. What do you do? Do you also give him money and weapons, or do you threaten him back? Well if you're bigger and stronger than he is, you don't back down from him or give in to his demands. Trump is that new kid. He's not just making America great again, but he's making the whole world great. By standing up to North Korea, he stands up for everyone, even those poor souls in North Korea. \n And hey, if you don't see the logic in that, chew on this: Trump owns stake in several properties in Waikiki, namely hotels. If you don’t think he’s a good president, at least understand that he won’t let his own properties get destroyed. As Thomas Sowell said, \"It is hard to imagine a more stupid or more dangerous way of making decisions than by putting those decisions in the hands of people who pay no price for being wrong.\" If Trump is wrong and gets us bombed, he loses millions of dollars. Previous presidents didn't have that problem. Why did Bush allow 9-11-01 to happen? 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| body | Have you ever seen a government program so laughably inefficient that you instantly thought up a better way to do it? Ever think that maybe, if government can’t handle minor issues, that it shouldn’t be given sole responsibility over major ones? If so, then anarchism is right for you. There are literally hundreds of reasons why I’m an anarchist; here are 5 of them: #1. Rights are universal; objective, even. A right is not a guarantee. There is no magical force which prevents your rights from being violated; if there were, these conversations wouldn’t be necessary, since the state never would have existed to begin with. “Rights” are abstract concepts, like numbers. They are ideas for how humans can best interact peacefully. A right can’t be something that necessarily requires the labor of others, that is slavery. No, a right is only that which anyone has the morally justifiable stance to defend with force, and the core right which all other rights stem from is self-ownership. I own my body and you own your body. I don’t have the right to control you, and you don’t have the right to control me. See? Universal. Every version of a “government” requires one group of people to claim rights over others that they don’t have: the right to tax (steal), the right to imprison (kidnap), and the right to ban and mandate behavior (enslave), just to name a few. There is no legitimate way for them to obtain these rights other than by permission, by consent of the governed. But if it is consensual, then it is not “government”. To “govern” means to rule by force. It’s not optional. Government can’t both serve the people and be it’s master. Even the idea that we need government to defend our rights is contradictory, since it must first violate our rights in order to exist. Government is and always has been the largest violator of rights. Which brings us to… #2. Government can’t defend from invaders. The Marxist concept that “need” creates legitimacy is the core reasoning behind most statist rhetoric, but it’s an irrational point. Wouldn’t Christmas be better with a real Santa, bringing toys to all the kids? Doesn’t change the fact that Santa doesn’t exist. Even IF we were safer from outside forces with a state, it wouldn’t legitimize the state. But it’s not even the case that it could, since it’s always acted as the conquering army after it’s invasion. It WAS the invading army. Like having a rapist in prison defend his victim from other rapists. No, he doesn’t love you; he’s guarding his bitch. Hiroshima, Nagasaki, the Twin Towers, Pearl Harbor, Poland, and the Hawaiian islands all took major attacks and invasions. All had governments. When statists claim that governments are needed to prevent invasion, they forget the fact that most places which have been invaded, had governments. A government, in fact, provides incentive for outside invasion. The Hawaiian islands, for example, were easily conquered by locking a single woman in her room; because there was already a structure set up to take over. It’s like a burglar looking in a window to see all the valuables conveniently packed into a bag for them. Invading a state is like fighting a skeleton with obvious targets and mechanics, while invading a stateless society is like attacking a water puddle; it just regroups around your fist and laughs. Switzerland, where the citizens all have guns, has never been invaded, and for the same reason the Japanese general famously refused a ground invasion on the US, because “there would be a rifle behind every blade of grass”. That’s right, a military famous for it’s actual suicide missions, refused to invade the heavily-armed US on the grounds that it was too dangerous. Even the us colonists fighting the Brits were basically unpaid volunteers, and not apart of some governmental force. They were literally just farmers trying to protect their families from a bunch of violent tyrants; they weren’t a bunch of hopeful politicians and their fans trying to create their own constitutional Utopia. Just men backed into a corner. To govern means to rule. It does not mean to defend, serve, or even “represent”. It means, “do what we say or get hurt.” Any service that requires people be forced to pay will be worse than one that must convince people to pay. One must work to gain and keep customers, the other has no such incentive. It’s paid either way. It won’t lose customers if it invades other territories either, which is something I’d really like the territory of our invaders to be able to do. Imagine if an invading force was funded voluntarily. Once the invasion began, some or most people there would quit funding it, and that would increase the bill for those who still support it, which would then dissuade even more from paying. Our invaders would be defeated by their own homeland. Not to mention that without government schooling, the propaganda needed to convince people that invading others is somehow defending their home would be seriously diminished. #3. Statism means the NAP is optional. By now, you’ve probably heard that it’s wrong to initiate force against others. “Don’t hit others and don’t take their stuff” is the inter-personal morality ingrained in us since childhood, at least verbally. Libertarians call this the Non-Aggression Principle, or the NAP. But if enough people “vote” for it, it’s somehow ok for a man with a shiny badge to stop your car with the unspoken threat of deadly force. What happens if you don’t pay your “taxes”? The largest source of violence in any state is the government itself. Even in Islam, a bloodthirsty cult, it’s most dangerous form is that of a state. Cops and military are the most likely to commit domestic violence in the US. When all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail. We are taught from a young age, not how to prevent violence and settle disputes ourselves, but to seek “authority” to settle it for us. Anarchy is ultimately about personal responsibility. Before escalating a situation to violence or bringing in a third party, why not try to talk it out rationally? Of course, if someone is seriously threatening you somehow, you should be free to defend yourself as much as you feel the need to. But in a statist society, that is often prevented through legal disarming and anti-self-defense laws, which create magnets for violent people. As long as they can hurt you before the cops arrive, what risk is there to them? With government, there is a monopoly on law, so there is no way of defending oneself from the government outside of the options the government itself gives you. Can you imagine if you were being mugged, and could only use defensive tactics approved of or given to you by your attacker? When there’s a monopoly on law, lawmakers and judges can be bought. We see this in corporatist ‘Murrica all the time. “Justice” is sold to the highest bidder. Now in a free market of law, different courts would compete for customers. Who’s the fairest? Who has the best policies, the wisest judges? Courts would be little more than contract enforcement and private defense. There could be different methods of payment, like insurance. It’s been done before, and improved upon with the DRO business model. Laws will not restrict the government, since the government writes and enforces the laws. #4. There is no “social contract”. There is only natural law. There are personal contracts, and then there’s the unspoken mutual understanding of ‘leave each other in peace, only bring good news’. Two predators in the wild generally respect each other’s territory, and know the repercussions of not doing so. “Government” removes repercussions from only one side. A visual example of this is to imagine two humans facing each other. In wing chun theory, there are three types of positions in a fight: equal, dominant, and submissive. When they’re facing each other, they’re at equal advantage, since all of their limbs are equal distance from their opponent. If their opponent is at an angle, then he is at a disadvantage, since it takes his back limbs more time to strike. “Government” is the opponent facing us, and we are the opponent who is turning our limbs further and further away from them, giving them more advantage. We are practically facing completely around at this point. Anarchy is equal advantage, or at least has the most possibility for equal power since there’s no monopoly. Statism is a constant dominator, always scheming for more and more power. One mustn’t be able to recite the NAP to feel it internally and abide by it. Why don’t we agress against everyone around us every day? We are biologically opposed to violations of the NAP, which is why we evolved compassion and empathy. And of course, one must always calculate the risks. Resistance, punishment, later retaliation, and the harm to the whole community that must now spend more time watching over their shoulders instead of the productive things they’d rather be doing, are all subconsciously factored in. Even cops get shot sometimes for violating people’s natural rights. No knock raids, for example, are indistinguishable from home invasions. Even some judges agree. We must be realistic. Not many people will go out of their way to defend the rights of others without incentive. Anarchy provides the greatest incentive, an open market, and thus the most room for improvement. A “limited government”, if limited by fear of revolution, can’t compare. Now, that’s a pretty low bar. I’d prefer one driven to make us the happiest, not one motivated only to do enough to not get shot. Who’d you rather date: someone who wants to make you happy, or someone who does just the bare minimum to not get dumped? Now imagine you can’t dump them, but must instead wait for them to dump themselves. Don’t worry, you’ll get to vote on it. Again, cops don’t defend us, they enforce the laws of their bosses. Even if we do need one organization to defend us all, how do we choose which one gets paid with all our pooled money? The world is scary. North Korean dictators with nukes and a godlike reverence terrify us. But let’s not copy their model. The Bloods and the Crips are basically the same now, although some may’ve had good intentions at one time. They copied the model of their enemy, and so they became them. There is no heavenly father watching over us, and no matter how hard we organize, vote, or ritualize court buildings, we can’t create one. We can’t grant a human or group of humans impunity from morals and expect it to turn out to our advantage. #5. Privacy and property. Although technically two things, they’re so intricately linked I just put them together. Now an extension of self-ownership is property rights. Since I own myself, I own what I create, and that around me which I claim that I can use that isn’t already claimed. Now the other part of this is free association, and since different people have different opinions on what property is, like-minded people will tend to collaborate, like social networking groups. Anarcho-communists think property should be collectively owned, shared, with no one person owning much more than what they can fit on their person. Anarcho-capitalists believe it should be privately owned by individuals. Both of us can coexist in separate communities or even different organizations. But as long as government exists, no one can privately or collectively own property, since government owns everything through property tax. And since you must pay property tax, you can’t really claim to have privacy. We’re not even free to be left alone, we have to pay tax to live. To summarize, Many of the functions of government can still exist without government. The only differences between statism and anarchy are whether or not it is funded voluntarily, and does it allow for competition. In anarchy, it would be. In statism, it is not. It’s disingenuous to claim your way is the best way, when it’s what we have now, it’s horribly inefficient, and no one’s allowed to try anything else. Well, the truth can handle scrutiny. Minarchy is compromise, and as Ayn Rand said, compromise always favors evil. Minarchists can correctly criticize socialism for it’s inefficiency, so why do they want that same system for the most important things? Who don’t they trust? If people can’t be trusted to rule themselves, how can some of those same people be trusted to rule others? I actually do support a limited government; limited by the same rules as anyone else. And that leaves us with no government at all. |
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Government is and always has been the largest violator of rights.\n Which brings us to…\n\n#2. Government can’t defend from invaders. \n\nThe Marxist concept that “need” creates legitimacy is the core reasoning behind most statist rhetoric, but it’s an irrational point. Wouldn’t Christmas be better with a real Santa, bringing toys to all the kids? Doesn’t change the fact that Santa doesn’t exist. Even IF we were safer from outside forces with a state, it wouldn’t legitimize the state.\n But it’s not even the case that it could, since it’s always acted as the conquering army after it’s invasion. It WAS the invading army. Like having a rapist in prison defend his victim from other rapists. No, he doesn’t love you; he’s guarding his bitch.\n Hiroshima, Nagasaki, the Twin Towers, Pearl Harbor, Poland, and the Hawaiian islands all took major attacks and invasions. All had governments. When statists claim that governments are needed to prevent invasion, they forget the fact that most places which have been invaded, had governments. A government, in fact, provides incentive for outside invasion. The Hawaiian islands, for example, were easily conquered by locking a single woman in her room; because there was already a structure set up to take over. It’s like a burglar looking in a window to see all the valuables conveniently packed into a bag for them. Invading a state is like fighting a skeleton with obvious targets and mechanics, while invading a stateless society is like attacking a water puddle; it just regroups around your fist and laughs.\n Switzerland, where the citizens all have guns, has never been invaded, and for the same reason the Japanese general famously refused a ground invasion on the US, because “there would be a rifle behind every blade of grass”. That’s right, a military famous for it’s actual suicide missions, refused to invade the heavily-armed US on the grounds that it was too dangerous.\n Even the us colonists fighting the Brits were basically unpaid volunteers, and not apart of some governmental force. They were literally just farmers trying to protect their families from a bunch of violent tyrants; they weren’t a bunch of hopeful politicians and their fans trying to create their own constitutional Utopia. Just men backed into a corner.\n To govern means to rule. It does not mean to defend, serve, or even “represent”. It means, “do what we say or get hurt.”\n Any service that requires people be forced to pay will be worse than one that must convince people to pay. One must work to gain and keep customers, the other has no such incentive. It’s paid either way. It won’t lose customers if it invades other territories either, which is something I’d really like the territory of our invaders to be able to do.\n Imagine if an invading force was funded voluntarily. Once the invasion began, some or most people there would quit funding it, and that would increase the bill for those who still support it, which would then dissuade even more from paying. Our invaders would be defeated by their own homeland.\n Not to mention that without government schooling, the propaganda needed to convince people that invading others is somehow defending their home would be seriously diminished. \n\n#3. Statism means the NAP is optional. \n\nBy now, you’ve probably heard that it’s wrong to initiate force against others. “Don’t hit others and don’t take their stuff” is the inter-personal morality ingrained in us since childhood, at least verbally. Libertarians call this the Non-Aggression Principle, or the NAP.\n But if enough people “vote” for it, it’s somehow ok for a man with a shiny badge to stop your car with the unspoken threat of deadly force. What happens if you don’t pay your “taxes”?\n The largest source of violence in any state is the government itself. Even in Islam, a bloodthirsty cult, it’s most dangerous form is that of a state. Cops and military are the most likely to commit domestic violence in the US. When all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail. We are taught from a young age, not how to prevent violence and settle disputes ourselves, but to seek “authority” to settle it for us. Anarchy is ultimately about personal responsibility. Before escalating a situation to violence or bringing in a third party, why not try to talk it out rationally? Of course, if someone is seriously threatening you somehow, you should be free to defend yourself as much as you feel the need to. But in a statist society, that is often prevented through legal disarming and anti-self-defense laws, which create magnets for violent people. As long as they can hurt you before the cops arrive, what risk is there to them?\n With government, there is a monopoly on law, so there is no way of defending oneself from the government outside of the options the government itself gives you. Can you imagine if you were being mugged, and could only use defensive tactics approved of or given to you by your attacker?\n When there’s a monopoly on law, lawmakers and judges can be bought. We see this in corporatist ‘Murrica all the time. “Justice” is sold to the highest bidder.\n Now in a free market of law, different courts would compete for customers. Who’s the fairest? Who has the best policies, the wisest judges? Courts would be little more than contract enforcement and private defense. There could be different methods of payment, like insurance. It’s been done before, and improved upon with the DRO business model.\n Laws will not restrict the government, since the government writes and enforces the laws. \n\n#4. There is no “social contract”. There is only natural law. \n\nThere are personal contracts, and then there’s the unspoken mutual understanding of ‘leave each other in peace, only bring good news’. Two predators in the wild generally respect each other’s territory, and know the repercussions of not doing so. “Government” removes repercussions from only one side.\n A visual example of this is to imagine two humans facing each other. In wing chun theory, there are three types of positions in a fight: equal, dominant, and submissive. When they’re facing each other, they’re at equal advantage, since all of their limbs are equal distance from their opponent. If their opponent is at an angle, then he is at a disadvantage, since it takes his back limbs more time to strike. “Government” is the opponent facing us, and we are the opponent who is turning our limbs further and further away from them, giving them more advantage. We are practically facing completely around at this point.\n Anarchy is equal advantage, or at least has the most possibility for equal power since there’s no monopoly. Statism is a constant dominator, always scheming for more and more power.\n One mustn’t be able to recite the NAP to feel it internally and abide by it. Why don’t we agress against everyone around us every day? We are biologically opposed to violations of the NAP, which is why we evolved compassion and empathy. And of course, one must always calculate the risks. Resistance, punishment, later retaliation, and the harm to the whole community that must now spend more time watching over their shoulders instead of the productive things they’d rather be doing, are all subconsciously factored in.\n Even cops get shot sometimes for violating people’s natural rights. No knock raids, for example, are indistinguishable from home invasions. Even some judges agree.\n We must be realistic. Not many people will go out of their way to defend the rights of others without incentive. Anarchy provides the greatest incentive, an open market, and thus the most room for improvement.\n A “limited government”, if limited by fear of revolution, can’t compare. Now, that’s a pretty low bar. I’d prefer one driven to make us the happiest, not one motivated only to do enough to not get shot. Who’d you rather date: someone who wants to make you happy, or someone who does just the bare minimum to not get dumped? Now imagine you can’t dump them, but must instead wait for them to dump themselves. Don’t worry, you’ll get to vote on it.\n Again, cops don’t defend us, they enforce the laws of their bosses.\n Even if we do need one organization to defend us all, how do we choose which one gets paid with all our pooled money?\n The world is scary. North Korean dictators with nukes and a godlike reverence terrify us. But let’s not copy their model. The Bloods and the Crips are basically the same now, although some may’ve had good intentions at one time. They copied the model of their enemy, and so they became them.\n There is no heavenly father watching over us, and no matter how hard we organize, vote, or ritualize court buildings, we can’t create one. We can’t grant a human or group of humans impunity from morals and expect it to turn out to our advantage. \n\n#5. Privacy and property. \n\nAlthough technically two things, they’re so intricately linked I just put them together.\n Now an extension of self-ownership is property rights. Since I own myself, I own what I create, and that around me which I claim that I can use that isn’t already claimed. Now the other part of this is free association, and since different people have different opinions on what property is, like-minded people will tend to collaborate, like social networking groups.\n Anarcho-communists think property should be collectively owned, shared, with no one person owning much more than what they can fit on their person. Anarcho-capitalists believe it should be privately owned by individuals. Both of us can coexist in separate communities or even different organizations. But as long as government exists, no one can privately or collectively own property, since government owns everything through property tax. And since you must pay property tax, you can’t really claim to have privacy. We’re not even free to be left alone, we have to pay tax to live.\n\nTo summarize,\n\nMany of the functions of government can still exist without government. The only differences between statism and anarchy are whether or not it is funded voluntarily, and does it allow for competition. In anarchy, it would be. In statism, it is not.\n It’s disingenuous to claim your way is the best way, when it’s what we have now, it’s horribly inefficient, and no one’s allowed to try anything else. Well, the truth can handle scrutiny.\n Minarchy is compromise, and as Ayn Rand said, compromise always favors evil.\n Minarchists can correctly criticize socialism for it’s inefficiency, so why do they want that same system for the most important things? Who don’t they trust? If people can’t be trusted to rule themselves, how can some of those same people be trusted to rule others?\n I actually do support a limited government; limited by the same rules as anyone else. And that leaves us with no government at all.",
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