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It has always been more difficult for conservatives to be part of the academic debate in identity and social politics as such, given that most of their talking points have been scientifically debunked for decades and hold very little value in this domain. This far right wingers have made do with talking heads such as Shapiro, Kirk, Yiannopoulos and the like - people with very good debating skills, but no scientific credibility - to make a point for their political orientation in debates, discussions, panels and so forth. Jordan Peterson is the first real right wing pundit to make use of his academic background to defend his conservative ideology with incredible convincibility and (arguable) credibility. \n\n![32419248_2035231200064522_983968417579008000_n.jpg](https://steemitimages.com/DQmW7Mu6jJ9aGYc6v1Jp2NFHRp2QtKb6NtVMBRyNPF8wcdB/32419248_2035231200064522_983968417579008000_n.jpg)\n\nYet essentially all which Peterson does is use his academic jargon, serious face, and weak studies in evolutionary psychology to convince the unacquainted of his ideas. Right wingers have always loved the whole “facts do not care about your feelings”, and Peterson is seemingly bringing the facts on the otherwise empty table of right wing academia. And young conservatives are falling for it. Bad. \n\nThere is so far no argument Peterson has come forth ith which isn’t very easily debunkable, except for the ones that are simply borderline racist and/or misogynistic, in which sense we are simply talking about shitty opinions. Jordan Peterson doesn’t understand most of what he is talking about, such as his absurd claims about Postmodernism being a continuation / “rebranding” of Marxism that happened during the 60s and 70s, because Marxism had seemingly lost its popularity because of the Soviet Union (completely disregarding the fact that the communist parties of France and Italy were at their biggest in the 1960s during the peak of postermodernist philosophy) . From a philosophical point of view this is pure nonsense (see the table below). \n\n![pmm.PNG](https://steemitimages.com/DQmd7JJ6Y3NiWEYe8yQZo9JbuXEwnLNZsjj3EmmVLQamC5D/pmm.PNG)\n\n\nMarxists were generally the biggest critics of Postmodernism already from the beginning. Both Marx and Hegel were Modernist philosophers so why should they embrace Postmodernism which essentially goes against everything modernists believed in ? Various marxists critics have spoken out against postmodernism, and were in fact some of the earliest critics of it. Fredric Jameson called postmodernism \"the cultural logic of late capitalism\", John Molyneux called it \"singing an old song long intoned by bourgeois historians of various persuasions\", and Alex Callinicos said it is \"a symptom of political frustration and social mobility rather than as a significant intellectual or cultural phenomenon in its own right.\". Just because marxists criticized the oppressor/oppressed relation of labour against capital, and postmodernists with identity politics, doesn’t mean that they are one and the same. On top of that, postmodernist philosophers such as Foucault, Baudrillard and Derrida hold very different views on many subjects, so simply classifying them under one umbrella is quite ridiculous to begin with. Jordan Peterson also often talks about what he calls “Cultural Marxism”, which doesn’t fall short of Cultural Bolshevism - a term commonly associated to german Nazis and the red scarce, all to try and theorize a grand conspiracy of leftists being out there trying to crush western values and western cultures. Needless to say this, is completely absurd. \n\nJordan Peterson sees the world and our society not through the lense of centuries of research in the social sciences, but through concepts deeply rooted in evolutionary psychology : a controversial scientific field which tries to explain all human behavioral aspects with the hard science of biology and psychology. This parallels humans to all sorts of other animals in their ability to act and comprehend the world, and normalises some of the worst aspects of our society : violence, rape, oppression, hierarchical structures and others. Jordan Peterson for example explains that social hierarchies in our societies are completely normal and even natural, given that lobsters who have a very similar nervous system as humans, live in social hierarchies, and hence biologically humans are rooted to have social hierarchies as well. With this point of views, humans are no more capable of organizing a functioning societies than a mere crustacean. Peterson also pointed out that women’s use of makeup and high heels triggers very primal sexual behaviors in men and hence women are responsible should they experience any forms of sexual abuse. Again, men are apparently nothing more than horny chimps who in no way understand social norms and can’t control their natural urges. Should it be noted that Peterson actually has throughout his life received 3 accusations for sexual harassment, so he probably simply bases it on his own uncontrable urges. When attempting to explain the case of Alex Minassian who killed 10 people in Toronto by driving a van into a crowd, Peterson blames his actions on his celibacy. Alex Minassian being a bitter incel (involuntary celibate) supposedly fueled his anger that led to his deadly actions. Peterson’s solution : let’s introduce “enforced monogamy” so that every man is entitled to a woman, as if women were some sort of utility furniture. He also argued that feminists who argue for the protection and rights of muslim immigrants are not doing it out of empathical reasons, but because on an unconsious desire to be brutally dominated by muslim men. \nPeterson, even as a professional psychology professor, has no understanding of social dynamics and human behavioral science, and uses truncated theories that match his political views to support his claims - which is exactly what evolutionary psychology as a scientific field has been immensely criticised for. As a field it often uses very weak science while excluding most research already done in the social sciences to reinforce old school conservative values while rejecting the findings of the social sciences that often point to ideologically contradictory conclusions regarding how we ought to structure our society or behave as human beings. Social science is a holistic field which also does includes findings in evolutionary psychology and other hard science fields, but then proceeds to *weigh* it against other factors such as how our society and other environments also influence human behaviour. It’s about understanding how much of an effect a society/group/culture have on the person contra his/hers biological and psychological self. Hence the social sciences include what evolutionary psychology inversely chose to exclude, which frankly diminishes the credibility of the field altogether. \n\n![27336784_1984341788486797_6084301688423239289_n.jpg](https://steemitimages.com/DQmNuoZPrEZwukAh76oPWAubQaXaThuZG3dzNBVgxAYV67b/27336784_1984341788486797_6084301688423239289_n.jpg)\n\nThis brings us to the next weird part of Jordan Peterson’s universe : his christianity. For a man constantly trying to argue for logic and facts, his spirituality seems a little bit off. Nonetheless I have nothing against religion and people of faith, so I will not start criticising this fact as it doesn’t bother me at all. What does bother me though is his very biblical vision of the world, which goes back to our previously mentioned “enforced monogamy”. Jordan Peterson is against polygamy or simply having more than one sexual partner, or even one night stands. He sees monogamous relationships as being the core of all peace and the lack of it as that of violence, and so he does with God. Although he often underplays his religiousness, he also seems to believe that faith combines our entire society into one functioning organism and the lack of it thereof a purveyor of violence and discord. He again often tries to use philosophical and scientific reasoning to argue for his opinion, but most of what I’ve heard or read so far makes absolutely no sense. Yet he seems to be one of those christians who believe that morality stems from religion (christianity in particular), and hence humans cannot live without it. This is such a bible belt evangelical gun-nut point of view that really should make you question everything else that he says given that he confidently can spur such nonsense. Even people who admire Peterson such as Harris, Dawkins or Maher can’t follow him on this one. \n\nWhile we are in the religious domain I wanna get to my last point, which is that of the cult-leader status that Jordan Peterson seems to have reached. I have rarely seen such an insanely protective fanbase such as the one he fosters, who cling to his every word and opinion as if they came from the messiah himself. Jordan Peterson has managed to tap into a crowd which Steve Bannon once called “*rootless white males*”, young white cis millennial men who can’t seem to find their role and place in today’s society. 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He daily receives thousands upon thousands of emotionally filled thank you letters from his fans who tell him about how much his book and many lectures have saved their lives and helped them find meaning again in their lives - this again screams of cult-like behaviour. We have all heard of many stories of people joining in cults such as scientology, paying crazy amounts of money to be part of it, and finally finding meaning in their lives. Cults and cult leaders thrive on rootless and aimless people who need guidance and direction, and Jordan Peterson can give you exactly that - shall you decided to pay him a monthly fee for it. \n\n![jpl.PNG](https://steemitimages.com/DQmeiDocVX8U7pB8N5nLgUVuPVLDtFYFFPJk4q2S8PnHEK6/jpl.PNG)\n\nAnd that’s basically where we’re at. Jordan Peterson has managed to convince thousands of men with his faux-science of his racist, misogynistic right wing views, and has made a fortune in the process. 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      "body": "![](https://steemitimages.com/DQmYEZCHRhoi83nTtuhYoTfghaqemRSX3Nm4roTfbr3b54E/image.png)\n\n*“Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother’s eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? How can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when all the time there is a plank in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye.\"*- Matthew 7:3-5\n\nThe term \"whataboutism\" is one that has been used more and more in online political debates over the last year or two. I would believe it really gained traction after John Oliver mentioned it in one of his segments on his show [Last Week Tonight](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RS82JNd0YzQ). Meriam Webster defines Whataboutism as *\" a rhetorical device that involves accusing others of offenses as a way of deflecting attention from one's own deeds.\"*.  It is a logical fallacy in the same vein as *tu quoque* (meaning 'you also' in Latin), an older term of appeal to hypocrisy. \n\nWhataboutism, in and of itself, is not a bad argument. In the context in which John Oliver brings it up, and from where it has gained its latest popularity, is with regards to the way that conservative pundits and members of the Trump administration very often would bring up many of Hillary's misdeeds when faced with having to defend or explain an unpopular situation. *\"What about her emails?\", \"What about Benghazi?\"*, and many more, were very frequent false arguments used to counter attacks from the opposite political side. So in this regard, whataboutism, or *tu quoque*, is a very bad and weak argument to use in a debate. \n\nNow, where calling out whataboutism really starts bothering me, is in the area of foreign policy.  Anyone who knows a little bit about the matter, knows that there is a huge one-sidedness with regards to who is deciding what is right and what is wrong in international affairs. The West along with NATO have a very strong overhand within the UN and a strong international power to influence other countries in the way they see fit. The US especially has an extensive history of medling in the political life of foreign countries, going as far as bribing politicians, overthrowing governments, and even invading with military troops. This coercive influence is unprecedented and is never really perceived as a problem in the eyes of the international community. The term \"American Exceptionalism\" comes to mind, being the idea that the United States in some way holds the moral high ground on our planet, and all of its actions are therefor justified, given that they are doing it for the \"greater good\". Needless to say, this is complete nonsense. Everything from the war in Iraq, Afghanistan, Lybia, Syria, to help overthrowing governments in Chile, Columbia, Honduras, Panama, Ukraine, should remind one that the US is by far no example in helping the world - and the list of countries affected goes on and on. \n\nMost, if not all, of these foreign interventions have gone completely unpunished by the global community and keep happening still without anyone in the West blinking an eye about it. Yet in the light of the recent accusations of Russian meddling in the 2016 US election, this US exceptionalism becomes ever more apparent. As the West cries in harmony for more punishing and sanctioning of the Russian Federation, it becomes almost impossible to have a reasonable debate regarding the actions of Russia in the larger context of history, without being told one is indulging in \"whataboutism\". I cannot recall the amount of time I have seen someone on Reddit or elsewhere online try to bring up the foreign interventions of the United States *in a comparative policy analysis* hoping to balance the scale to a more fair assessment of the Russia's action, only to be called out on *\"that's whataboutism\"*. It happens, time and time again, as if it is the argument to end them all. \n\nWhataboutism as a logical fallacy is legitimate if the situation is such as \n\nPerson A : \"You killed my cat\"\nPerson B : \"What about the fact that you broke my window\"\nPerson A : \"That's whataboutism\". \n\nBut in a different situation such as this one, it doesn't hold up at all in the same way :\n\nPerson A : \"You killed my cat\"\nPerson B : \"What about the fact that you killed my cat, my dog and my turtle\"\nPerson A : \"That's whataboutism\" \n\nBreaking a window doesn't justify killing someone's cat, and is a false appeal to hypocrisy. But on the other hand, mentioning that the other person is accusing you *of the same crime yet amplified*, calling out for whataboutism simply comes across as shallow and frankly quite idiotic. Of course killing 3 pets doesn't directly justify killing another, but the victim who lost all 3 pets is entitled to call out the accusation of Person A as being hypocritical. \n\nIf someone tells me that the actions of Russia to hire 13 trolls to post memes on social media in order to sway the electorate in the US in the favour of Trump is in fact foreign intervention from the side of Russia, and deserves to be punished, I try to remind me of the time but 20 years ago, when the US openly and [proudly interfered in the Russian election to sway the election in the favor of Yeltsin](https://www.globalresearch.ca/us-meddling-in-1996-russian-elections-in-support-of-boris-yeltsin/5568288). This is a typical case in which I would be attacked for doing \"whataboutism\". Yet my intent is never to *justify* the actions of the Russian government, but instead to try and counterbalance claims that lack a certain nuance necessary to judge the actions of the Russian government.   \n\nSee the graph below : \n\n![whataboutism.png](https://steemitimages.com/DQmT7k1PHbmab3n2uKZisTfh85PjcJwTVtUjrLnSERkyPoi/whataboutism.png)\n\nMy endline is this : when dealing with foreign policy, when dealing with international relations, whataboutism is not a logical counterargument in a call for historical perspective. In the case of condemnations, sanctions or intervention, [we are dealing with the lives of people](https://steemit.com/sanctions/@elwo/understanding-the-effects-of-economic-sanctions), and hence all arguments to prevent undesired suffering are worth being taken into account. \n\nIt is always a good idea to be aware of the misdeeds of your own country in the context of our global society, if you want to fairly judge the misdeeds of other countries. 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      "body": "![](https://steemitimages.com/DQmYEZCHRhoi83nTtuhYoTfghaqemRSX3Nm4roTfbr3b54E/image.png)\n\n*“Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother’s eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? How can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when all the time there is a plank in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye.\"*- Matthew 7:3-5\n\nThe term \"whataboutism\" is one that has been used more and more in online political debates over the last year or two. I would believe it really gained traction after John Oliver mentioned it in one of his segments on his show [Last Week Tonight](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RS82JNd0YzQ). Meriam Webster defines Whataboutism as *\" a rhetorical device that involves accusing others of offenses as a way of deflecting attention from one's own deeds.\"*.  It is a logical fallacy in the same vein as *tu quoque* (meaning 'you also' in Latin), an older term of appeal to hypocrisy. \n\nWhataboutism, in and of itself, is not a bad argument. In the context in which John Oliver brings it up, and from where it has gained its latest popularity, is with regards to the way that conservative pundits and members of the Trump administration very often would bring up many of Hillary's misdeeds when faced with having to defend or explain an unpopular situation. *\"What about her emails?\", \"What about Benghazi?\"*, and many more, were very frequent false arguments used to counter attacks from the opposite political side. So in this regard, whataboutism, or *tu quoque*, is a very bad and weak argument to use in a debate. \n\nNow, where calling out whataboutism really starts bothering me, is in the area of foreign policy.  Anyone who knows a little bit about the matter, knows that there is a huge one-sidedness with regards to who is deciding what is right and what is wrong in international affairs. The West along with NATO have a very strong overhand within the UN and a strong international power to influence other countries in the way they see fit. The US especially has an extensive history of medling in the political life of foreign countries, going as far as bribing politicians, overthrowing governments, and even invading with military troops. This coercive influence is unprecedented and is never really perceived as a problem in the eyes of the international community. The term \"American Exceptionalism\" comes to mind, being the idea that the United States in some way holds the moral high ground on our planet, and all of its actions are therefor justified, given that they are doing it for the \"greater good\". Needless to say, this is complete nonsense. Everything from the war in Iraq, Afghanistan, Lybia, Syria, to help overthrowing governments in Chile, Columbia, Honduras, Panama, Ukraine, should remind one that the US is by far no example in helping the world - and the list of countries affected goes on and on. \n\nMost, if not all, of these foreign interventions have gone completely unpunished by the global community and keep happening still without anyone in the West blinking an eye about it. Yet in the light of the recent accusations of Russian meddling in the 2016 US election, this US exceptionalism becomes ever more apparent. As the West cries in harmony for more punishing and sanctioning of the Russian Federation, it becomes almost impossible to have a reasonable debate regarding the actions of Russia in the larger context of history, without being told one is indulging in \"whataboutism\". I cannot recall the amount of time I have seen someone on Reddit or elsewhere online try to bring up the foreign interventions of the United States *in a comparative policy analysis* hoping to balance the scale to a more fair assessment of the Russia's action, only to be called out on *\"that's whataboutism\"*. It happens, time and time again, as if it is the argument to end them all. \n\nWhataboutism as a logical fallacy is legitimate if the situation is such as \n\nPerson A : \"You killed my cat\"\nPerson B : \"What about the fact that you broke my window\"\nPerson A : \"That's whataboutism\". \n\nBut in a different situation such as this one, it doesn't hold up at all in the same way :\n\nPerson A : \"You killed my cat\"\nPerson B : \"What about the fact that you killed my cat, my dog and my turtle\"\nPerson A : \"That's whataboutism\" \n\nBreaking a window doesn't justify killing someone's cat, and is a false appeal to hypocrisy. But on the other hand, mentioning that the other person is accusing you *of the same crime yet amplified*, calling out for whataboutism simply comes across as shallow and frankly quite idiotic. Of course killing 3 pets doesn't directly justify killing another, but the victim who lost all 3 pets is entitled to call out the accusation of Person A as being hypocritical. \n\nIf someone tells me that the actions of Russia to hire 13 trolls to post memes on social media in order to sway the electorate in the US in the favour of Trump is in fact foreign intervention from the side of Russia, and deserves to be punished, I try to remind me of the time but 20 years ago, when the US openly and [proudly interfered in the Russian election to sway the election in the favor of Yeltsin](https://www.globalresearch.ca/us-meddling-in-1996-russian-elections-in-support-of-boris-yeltsin/5568288). This is a typical case in which I would be attacked for doing \"whataboutism\". Yet my intent is never to *justify* the actions of the Russian government, but instead to try and counterbalance claims that lack a certain nuance necessary to judge the actions of the Russian government.   \n\nSee the graph below : \n\n![whataboutism.png](https://steemitimages.com/DQmT7k1PHbmab3n2uKZisTfh85PjcJwTVtUjrLnSERkyPoi/whataboutism.png)\n\nMy endline is this : when dealing with foreign policy, when dealing with international relations, whataboutism is not a logical counterargument in a call for historical perspective. In the case of condemnations, sanctions or intervention, [we are dealing with the lives of people](https://steemit.com/sanctions/@elwo/understanding-the-effects-of-economic-sanctions), and hence all arguments to prevent undesired suffering are worth being taken into account. \n\nIt is always a good idea to be aware of the misdeeds of your own country in the context of our global society, if you want to fairly judge the misdeeds of other countries. 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      "body": "Totally agree, but \"the ever-ensuing embarrassments of the Commander in Chief\" sounds like it's coming directly from a talking point made by the lying MSM. It truly is partisan and not reporting the news.  The greatest tragedy is that most people on the left have lost their ability to think and reason. They are deathly afraid of a shattering paradigm so they live in a deep state of denial.  Praying for the best. More people need to do some thinking like you've just expressed.",
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      "body": "![](https://steemitimages.com/DQmZbtM9bnKG2ayKr8rnMeYYYWbhwEEFZbtrUcWzZLQ8cYr/image.png)\n\nIt has been a long year ever since January 20th of last year. Not only because of the ever-ensuing embarrassments of the Commander in Chief with such frequency it can be difficult to follow, but also – and I would say especially – because of the incessant daily media focus on the so called “Russiagate” scandal, a conspiracy which seeks to prove a collusion between the Putin and the Trump administration in order to successfully steal the 2016 presidential election win away from Democrat nominee Hillary Clinton. \n\nThe United States and the Russian Federation have a long history of mutual hostility – famously dividing the East and West into a bipolar world during the Cold War – and the vision of Russia is among many Americans still that of the Soviet bad guys. The Cold War was not a pleasant time for many obvious reasons, but in the minds of the American left, the McCarthy era is one that still sticks, and its apparent return is something that seems to concern only a minority on the left – including myself. Now for the unacquainted, McCarthyism can be described as “the vociferous campaign against alleged communists in the US government and other institutions carried out under Senator Joseph McCarthy in the period 1950–4. Many of the accused were blacklisted or lost their jobs, though most did not in fact belong to the Communist Party” (source). It was a clever way used by the US government to frame and condemn all the big left leaning civil rights and social justice movements that were happening during the Cold War era. Professors, academics, independent media platforms, politicians or activists with left leaning messages were being labelled as Soviet agents by the US government, discrediting them completely of any legitimacy in the eyes of the American people through the widespread Red Scare. What has been happening in the last year can be seen as a mirror of the same mentality, except that “Soviet spy” has today been replaced by labels such as “Kremlin agent” or “Russian bot”.\n\nIt isn’t news that what is often referred to as the “American Left” of the Democratic party is in reality nothing more than a neo-liberal party slightly more to the center/left than the GOP. So in this article, when I am referring to the terminology “American Left”, and the one subject to the revamped McCarthyism, I am in fact talking about the often anti-establishment, anti-imperialistic and even sometimes anti-capitalistic left – the one that threatens the current neo-liberal status quo. So as I elaborate my case, I just want to make it clear that I am referring to the latter.\n\nOne of the greater, larger left-wing media presence on US ground is undoubtedly RT America (RT short for Russia Today). Hosting many US critical segments such as Redacted Tonight  by Lee Camp, On Contact  with Chis Hedges and Breaking The Set  with Abby Martin, RT America comes out as a prominent side-narrative to the mainstream medias such as MSNBC, NBC, ABC, CNN, NPR and so forth. Yet last year, RT America has had to register itself as a “foreign agent”, on the basis of a very weak report by the Director of National Intelligence. Reasons for this decision as stated in the report claims to be that RT regularly covers surveillance, civil liberties, protest movements, the environmental impacts of fracking and Wall Street greed. Other more establishment friendly foreign news media on US soil such as BBC America have not had to register as a foreign agent. So far, only RT. Facebook (known for working closely with the US government) has even gone as far as marking RT articles shared on its platform as spam The Intercept did find out recently as well that Facebook does censor certain of its pages on behalf of governments, so more of the same behaviour is expected to be seen more in the future.\n\nWhere the delegitimization of leftist media really strikes is in the realm of “fake news”-stamping and propaganda-flagging. The Washington Post backed the website project PropOrNot.com which frames in a sort of ‘blacklist’ news medias that they believe are Russian Propaganda, with usually no evidence to back up their claims. Many independent news outlets are to be found on their list, and none of the major media conglomerates (unless they’re Russian, of course). In the same vein, Facebook has decided to team up with established media outlets such as AP and ABC News to find out and decide what is or is not “Fake News”.\n\nApparently, Americans are believed to be too unwise to figure it out for themselves, and if alternate narratives and opinions are being held, it must be because they have fallen victim of fake news. BBC has even gone as far as taking the teaching role in spotting “fake news”. The concept seems to be that social media platforms and mainstream media outlets are to tell the population what is real and what is a lie. The same outlets that pushed the war in Iraq, Syria, Libya, as well as the current Russiagate narrative. Media outlets that are ramping up on US intelligence spokesmen for their news segments, despite the fact that they are historically known to lie and deceive the American people. These same people are to tell us what is the truth. It is my belief that one of the only way such a development has become possible lies in the fact that the Democratic party and its voters have a newfound love for the FBI, NSA and CIA, thanks to the Russiagate conspiracy.\n\nDuring the last year, James Comey and Robert Mueller have incessantly been praised by the media as American heroes and patriots saving the American people from the Kremlin puppets that Trump and his administration are accused to be (with very little evidence so far). It would seem that in this day and age, the Democrats would rather side with the deep state than with reason. Through programs such as COINTELPRO and Operation Mockingbird, the FBI and CIA have spent decades and millions of dollars deceiving and crushing any movement that dared to challenge the two-party system. For “the resistance” movement to embrace US intelligence agencies and the lies they propagate is an extremely reckless and dangerous move, and by doing so they are not only consciously trying their best to harm the current administration, but unconsciously harming the many media outlets, journalists, activists and politicians who hold a different view on the world than the Washington narrative, and who are now all being flagged as Kremlin agents pushing Russian propaganda.\n\nDuring the last year we have been told not only that Trump’s campaign colluded with the Kremlin, but also that Bernie Sanders, Green Party leader Jill Stein and even that UK’s Jeremy Corbyn did. So have we been told about whistleblowers Julian Assange, Edward Snowden and Chelsea Manning, and many of RT America’s journalists who have their shows and articles published on RT America for the sole reason that RT is one of the only outlets allowing their differing viewpoints on American politics. Many Russiagate sceptics on Twitter have received messages directly from Twitter informing them that they might have fallen victim to Russian propaganda because they had retweeted or were following certain accounts they deemed to be associated with the Kremlin. From my own personal experience, I cannot count how many times I have seen Russiagate sceptics being called-out by liberals for being Kremlin agents or Russian bot accounts – all because of the many, many Russia-Kremlin-Trump stories that have been promulgated over the last year. It has paralyzed a large portion of the centre-left to not even move an inch more towards the left, and has condemned those who have.\n\nThere is a paranoia happening in the US political establishment, remarkably similar to the one experienced during the Cold War era. It doesn’t matter whether the Russia-Collusion story is true or not (let’s not forget the United States has itself meddled in countless foreign elections ever since the end of WWII, even in Russia in 1996), it matters more what this ongoing investigation and grotesque media-hype is doing to the American public – and by extension to the rest of the world. The US-Russia relation is worse today than at the high point of the Cold War, all thanks to this constant Putin bashing and the fact that NATO is slowly encircling the Russia in Eastern Europe, Northern Europe, the Arctic, the Middle-East and Asia. Despite the West promising not to expand NATO an inch Eastwards as part of the German reunification deal, such promises have not been kept. 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      "body": "![DYrqUnpU0AAppmo.jpg](https://steemitimages.com/DQmU9WwyUFqMq2xwavvxXiUYsFEGHRoexyEvCRNVs7BE6ia/DYrqUnpU0AAppmo.jpg) \n_Picture by Mike Prysner, taken in Iraq ca. 2003_\n\n\nAs we are currently in a time when the word “_sanctions_” gets thrown around left and right by the media, it is a well in place to attempt to clarify what exactly sanctions are, how they’re used and what their effects on a country are. In 2017 and now 2018, we have especially experienced the call for sanctions on Venezuela, Iran, North Korea and Russia, and hence I believe it is of crucial importance to understand more about what these sanctions entail given our historical understanding of foreign policy. \n\nEconomic sanctions are a way for one or several governments to put pressure on another country’s government, hoping for it to stop behaving in a certain way, and/or align itself in the way desired by those imposing the sanctions. Within diplomacy, sanctions can be placed somewhere in between condemnation and warfare. Yet the actual effects of sanctions on a targeted country’s population seem to still be vastly misunderstood given that right now, the majority of the Western world are cheering at the idea of further sanctioning Russia and Venezuela based on current political events. \n\nIf we go back in time a little bit, we can recall the sanctioning of Iraq in the 1990’s. The UN Security Council was not pleased with Saddam’s dealings in Kuwait, and enacted both financial and trade embargoes on Iraq which lasted until 2003, when Saddam was forced off power. By 1995, The Food and Agriculture Organization of the United Nations had reported that the sanctions had had a direct effect in the death of over 500.000 Iraqi children. By 2003, it is estimated that more than one million Iraqis had lost their lives because of the sanctions. Dennis Halliday, then Assistant Secretary-General of the United Nations resigned in 1998 after experiencing the effects of the sanctions first hand. In a 2000 interview with The Guardian, he stated : \"_I had been instructed to implement a policy that satisfies the definition of genocide: a deliberate policy that has effectively killed well over a million individuals, children and adults. We all know that the regime, Saddam Hussein, is not paying the price for economic sanctions; on the contrary, he has been strengthened by them. It is the little people who are losing their children or their parents for lack of untreated water. What is clear is that the Security Council is now out of control, for its actions here undermine its own Charter, and the Declaration of Human Rights and the Geneva Convention. History will slaughter those responsible._\" To this day, this part of the middle eastern conflict seems to be almost forgotten when assessing the current situation in the area. The sanctions in question nurtured a strong anti-American and anti-Western sentiment throughout the country, and went on to become one of the main reasons for Al Qaeda to want to kill Americans as stated in the 1998 fatwā issued by Osama Bin Laden. In 2004, Osama called the sanctions “_the greatest mass slaughter of children mankind has ever known_\". On the other hand, then US Secretary of State Madeleine Albright believed they were “_worth it_”. \n\nEven though these sanctions were enacted by the UN Security Council, The UN itself has for long condemned the use of sanctions, as they most often achieve the exact opposite with regards to everything which the UN stands for (such as human rights, right to development, human dignity and so on).  A 2000 UN report named The Adverse Consequences of Economic Sanctions written by then President of the Constitutional Court of Belgium, Marc Bossuyt, for the UN Subcommission on the Promotion and Protection of Human Rights, states with regards to sanctions that “_(ii)They most seriously affect the innocent population, especially the most vulnerable; (iii)They aggravate imbalances in income distribution; (iv) They generate illegal and unethical business practices_”. Under the Article 7 of the Rome Statute of the International Criminal Court, such sanctions, given the prior knowledge we have of the effects of sanctions on a population, could be condemned as crimes against humanity by international law. \n\nNow in the case of Venezuela : the US, Canada, and other Western Countries imposed sanctions in 2017 that have already been seen to affect the public health of the Venezuelan population. The embargos instated against the sale of Venezuelan oil which stands for about 95% of Venezuela’s income, atop the financial system embargo, makes it very difficult for the general population to acquire necessities such as medicines which they must buy from abroad. Venezuela suffered through a malaria crisis back in November 2017 and has had to go as far as India to be able to buy the needed medicine. The blockades added to a higher scarcity in med supplies and higher prices - not only in malaria medicines but also others such as insulin which too are vital for many. Although no statistics of the death count seem to have been gathered yet, UN rapporteur Dr. Alfred de Zayas who visited Venezuela last year is quite certain that a significant amount of Venezuelan people have already died due to the sanctions in place. As he stated in an interview with The Real News : “_the policy of imposing sanctions, the policy of preventing the Venezuelan government from issuing bonds and selling those bonds et cetera, et cetera, who is suffering the consequences? The Venezuelan people. It's not something like you are freezing the assets of the ministers or Mr. Maduro or whatever. You're actually hurting the people. And to the extent that sanctions have caused death--and they have._”. Such sanctions do go against the UN General Assembly Resolutions 25th Session (2625 XXV), which states that “_No State or group of States has the right to intervene, directly or indirectly, for any reason whatever, in the internal or external affairs of any other State._” and “_No State may use or encourage the use of economic political or any other type of measures to coerce another State in order to obtain from it the subordination of the exercise of its sovereign rights and to secure from it advantages of any kind_”. Again, it can thus be argued that the sanctions at hand are in violation of international law. \n\nIran was under sanctions up until January 2016, which made it very difficult for the Iranian people to acquire the necessary medicine to cure a large array of diseases, just as in Venezuela. Given that most Western high quality medicines were suddenly unavailable, Iran had to import more expensive and lower quality versions from China or India, and even through some black market channels. Many treatments today are patent protected by Western firms, which made it virtually impossible for Iran to import them. The financial blockades also severely the amount of money available by the government to afford the treatments. All in all, shortages were seen in the treatment of about 30 illnesses (such as cancer, multiple sclerosis and heart diseases) which ended up hurting and killing the poor, weak and sick people of Iran.\n\nIn 2014, the West imposed heavy sanctions on Russia after it went on the annex Crimea, which have measured to cause a 2.4% drop in pre-crisis Russian GDP. Russia was at the same time suffering because of falling oil prices (which is the same case for Venezuela), which led the total net capital inflow losses due to the sanctions from 2014 through 2017 to amount to 8% of the 2013 Russian GDP. So far it seems that Russia has managed to deal pretty well with its sanctions although they have been felt strongly throughout the country. Yet with the current Russiagate scandal which taints the current US administration, and even more recently with the probable false flag Salisbury Attack in the UK, it would seem that the West is pushing for even stronger sanctions towards Russia.\n\nThe end line is that sanctions should not be taken lightly by either our politicians, medias or the general population. North Korea called the latest 2017 sanctions “_an act of war_”, and the US-Russia relation is today worse than at the height of the Cold War mainly due to the enacted sanctions. Sanctions can easily be argued as being a better option than warfare, but at least when starting a war, mountains of evidence, political and public backing - both nationally and internationally - are usually required. On the other hand, sanctions seem to be imposed too lightly nowadays, for many of the wrong reasons, and with complete disregard towards the effects they have on the poor and non-resilient demographics of the targeted country. As sanctions most often are in direct violation of international law, and many could be framed as “crimes against humanity” by the Statute of Rome - imposing them should be done so with all of these aspects in mind, and with the same respect and consideration as for military interventions. \n\nJust as much as it is wrong to cheer for war, it is wrong to cheer for sanctions as well . Yet more often than not, sanctions are met by the Western media and general public with great appreciation, and are generally seen as strong acts of political decisiveness, and hence are usually encouraged and welcomed. If anything, this only reaffirms the complete detachment that we in the Western world have with regards to our foreign policies, and how we often affect the world in negative ways, with very little knowledge of it.",
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