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@flagchurch

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Flagstaff ICOC

steemit.com/@flagchurch
VOTING POWER100.00%
DOWNVOTE POWER100.00%
RESOURCE CREDITS100.00%
REPUTATION PROGRESS29.33%
Net Worth
2.931USD
STEEM
0.001STEEM
SBD
4.484SBD
Own SP
13.432SP

Detailed Balance

STEEM
balance
0.001STEEM
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0.000STEEM
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0.000STEEM
reward_steem_balance
0.000STEEM
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13.432SP
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0.000SP
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0.000SP
Effective Power
13.432SP
Reward SP (pending)
0.860SP
SBD
sbd_balance
2.589SBD
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Account Info

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minedNo
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sbd_last_interest_payment2017-06-21T04:09:57
savings_sbd_last_interest_payment1970-01-01T00:00:00
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Withdraw Routes

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From Date
To Date
steemdelegated 0.000 SP to @flagchurch
2020/05/08 09:24:06
delegateeflagchurch
delegatorsteem
vesting shares0.000000 VESTS
Transaction InfoBlock #43193205/Trx b0933c7462514f2c9d84d49143fa1e080ba2bff0
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2019/05/12 20:12:03
authorsteemitboard
bodyCongratulations @flagchurch! You received a personal award! <table><tr><td>https://steemitimages.com/70x70/http://steemitboard.com/@flagchurch/birthday2.png</td><td>Happy Birthday! - You are on the Steem blockchain for 2 years!</td></tr></table> <sub>_You can view [your badges on your Steem Board](https://steemitboard.com/@flagchurch) and compare to others on the [Steem Ranking](http://steemitboard.com/ranking/index.php?name=flagchurch)_</sub> **Do not miss the last post from @steemitboard:** <table><tr><td><a href="https://steemit.com/japanese/@steemitboard/new-japanese-speaking-community-steem-meetup-badge"><img src="https://steemitimages.com/64x128/https://cdn.steemitimages.com/DQmRWbAjbeETEaqSPLcpwYX1JN5pZhdPffv4q6DaBs6xvZm/image.png"></a></td><td><a href="https://steemit.com/japanese/@steemitboard/new-japanese-speaking-community-steem-meetup-badge">New japanese speaking community Steem Meetup badge</a></td></tr></table> ###### [Vote for @Steemitboard as a witness](https://v2.steemconnect.com/sign/account-witness-vote?witness=steemitboard&approve=1) to get one more award and increased upvotes!
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Transaction InfoBlock #32851842/Trx 6a48a6cf626b9953fa5ca217f1a3600518c3b462
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steemdelegated 1.252 SP to @flagchurch
2018/05/16 20:17:27
delegateeflagchurch
delegatorsteem
vesting shares2034.839782 VESTS
Transaction InfoBlock #22489850/Trx f0c83d3ba190b0009fbab756f127f4c7865cd726
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steemdelegated 5.358 SP to @flagchurch
2018/05/06 06:23:03
delegateeflagchurch
delegatorsteem
vesting shares8708.002222 VESTS
Transaction InfoBlock #22185210/Trx a7fea202faa0e5dbabd377c94ca350bbacabfec0
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steemdelegated 5.483 SP to @flagchurch
2017/12/27 21:19:00
delegateeflagchurch
delegatorsteem
vesting shares8911.637793 VESTS
Transaction InfoBlock #18463193/Trx 2880da8c4a0e2d9f6940402c29e3d880686cf55b
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flagchurchreceived 1.895 SBD, 1.095 SP author reward for @flagchurch / re-okutavio-2017615t6321338z
2017/06/22 13:32:15
authorflagchurch
permlinkre-okutavio-2017615t6321338z
sbd payout1.895 SBD
steem payout0.000 STEEM
vesting payout1780.010142 VESTS
Transaction InfoBlock #13044561/Virtual Operation #14
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esteemappreceived 0.115 SP benefactor reward from @flagchurch
2017/06/22 13:32:15
authorflagchurch
benefactoresteemapp
permlinkre-okutavio-2017615t6321338z
sbd payout0.000 SBD
steem payout0.000 STEEM
vesting payout186.280131 VESTS
Transaction InfoBlock #13044561/Virtual Operation #13
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flagchurchclaimed reward balance: 1.959 SBD, 1.189 SP
2017/06/21 04:09:57
accountflagchurch
reward sbd1.959 SBD
reward steem0.000 STEEM
reward vests1931.867628 VESTS
Transaction InfoBlock #13004583/Trx ad9b677926d420d06f7479829d55a9160698c4f6
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flagchurchreceived 0.269 SBD, 0.163 SP author reward for @flagchurch / re-zoef-2017613t64846695z
2017/06/20 13:48:48
authorflagchurch
permlinkre-zoef-2017613t64846695z
sbd payout0.269 SBD
steem payout0.000 STEEM
vesting payout264.959940 VESTS
Transaction InfoBlock #12987557/Virtual Operation #4
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esteemappreceived 0.017 SP benefactor reward from @flagchurch
2017/06/20 13:48:48
authorflagchurch
benefactoresteemapp
permlinkre-zoef-2017613t64846695z
sbd payout0.000 SBD
steem payout0.000 STEEM
vesting payout26.909994 VESTS
Transaction InfoBlock #12987557/Virtual Operation #3
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flagchurchreceived 0.273 SBD, 0.164 SP author reward for @flagchurch / baptism-pt-1-2017613t63521151z
2017/06/20 13:35:21
authorflagchurch
permlinkbaptism-pt-1-2017613t63521151z
sbd payout0.273 SBD
steem payout0.000 STEEM
vesting payout267.030074 VESTS
Transaction InfoBlock #12987289/Virtual Operation #9
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esteemappreceived 0.017 SP benefactor reward from @flagchurch
2017/06/20 13:35:21
authorflagchurch
benefactoresteemapp
permlinkbaptism-pt-1-2017613t63521151z
sbd payout0.000 SBD
steem payout0.000 STEEM
vesting payout26.910007 VESTS
Transaction InfoBlock #12987289/Virtual Operation #8
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flagchurchreceived 0.271 SBD, 0.163 SP author reward for @flagchurch / re-zoef-2017613t63338877z
2017/06/20 13:33:39
authorflagchurch
permlinkre-zoef-2017613t63338877z
sbd payout0.271 SBD
steem payout0.000 STEEM
vesting payout264.960090 VESTS
Transaction InfoBlock #12987255/Virtual Operation #12
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esteemappreceived 0.017 SP benefactor reward from @flagchurch
2017/06/20 13:33:39
authorflagchurch
benefactoresteemapp
permlinkre-zoef-2017613t63338877z
sbd payout0.000 SBD
steem payout0.000 STEEM
vesting payout26.910009 VESTS
Transaction InfoBlock #12987255/Virtual Operation #11
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flagchurchreceived 0.274 SBD, 0.169 SP author reward for @flagchurch / repentance-pt-2-2017612t64320473z
2017/06/19 13:43:24
authorflagchurch
permlinkrepentance-pt-2-2017612t64320473z
sbd payout0.274 SBD
steem payout0.000 STEEM
vesting payout275.324799 VESTS
Transaction InfoBlock #12958670/Virtual Operation #4
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esteemappreceived 0.017 SP benefactor reward from @flagchurch
2017/06/19 13:43:24
authorflagchurch
benefactoresteemapp
permlinkrepentance-pt-2-2017612t64320473z
sbd payout0.000 SBD
steem payout0.000 STEEM
vesting payout26.911446 VESTS
Transaction InfoBlock #12958670/Virtual Operation #3
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bodyThank you for your comment! baptízō seems to be the correct word for Baptism and it means to dip (as you said) but also to submerge and immerse - http://biblehub.com/greek/907.htm. Early church history (before Nicean 1) also shows that full immersion was the overwhelming norm - the only exceptions I can find are when people were too sick for full immersion. Why did we deviate from the practice that Jesus underwent and how the Apostles baptized? Likely because we decided that we would prefer to do things our way and that our logic was better than that of the Apostles. The idea of a separate body and soul is not something that is found in the Bible in the terms you are describing. It is more of an Ancient Greek concept that was probably adapted later in the Church. More often, the Hebrews viewed the two as integrated. Our eternal life is portrayed in physical terms rather than us existing as ghosts living in the clouds. I think that it overcomplicates the issue and is human hubris to try and project our conceptions onto the word rather than let the word stand on its own. Drawing a distinction how baptism works on the soul does just this. The text is clear that Baptism washes us from our sins. History shows how it was overwhelmingly practiced in the early church. Why do we need to reinterpret this? Tertullian's example of fish seems apt - but I prefer Paul's words on us being the body and Jesus being the head. We cannot have life apart from Jesus and he is the water that satisfies all thirst (as he told Samaritan woman at the well). Baptism is a transition point to our new life just like birth (it is literally our birth into Christ where we receive the Holy Spirit. On this point - I feel there is another needless complication - Baptism specifically promises us the gift of the Holy Spirit living in us, NOT the gift of sanctified water that lives in us.
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bodyI would have expected you had gone beyond the Greek meaning of the word to try to defend submerging. However, you are mixing words: *baptein* means *to dip*, but *baptizein* has more meaning and you can see it in the Bible being used in the rite when the Jews pour water on the hands for washing (Luke XI, 38). Notice that burial, and rebirth from water, is not a burial for the body, as is not the body that requires water, but the soul. You do require water (the first and purest element), and water is then to be poured onto the head. Such as been bestowed of the Holy Ghost (read more about it below). Baptismal waters go into your soul (not into, around, etc. your body), and by been buried with Christ you can walk a new life. We, little fish, according to our FISH Jesus Christ, are born in water, and we only live divine life while we remain in water (Tertullian). And we are after baptism being carried out in water, as the Holy Ghost, who sanctifies water when invoked upon it, and thus leads us into sanctity. But we are not living under water, it is just the baptismal ("Holy-Ghosted") waters that entered into our soul during the rite.
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authorflagchurch
bodyFirst of all to all those leftist who wil come in here and bash the messanger "i don't care". You can not understand the Koran or Islam without the Hadith (another holy book) which is the word and deeds of the prophet Muhammed, which itself is not the spoken word of God but rather their doctrine and law and practice. People who leave Islam are considerd apostates and according to there holy books should be killed. According to Islam there God is merciful, loving, and compasionat. But if you don't worship the one God you are considered a infidel, putting you beneath their women and children. You either pay a fine (Jizya) or be killed. Islam is one of the only religions that has laws for goverments inbedded in there religion. That is why countries like Iran, Yemen, and others went from being open and free to closed with Sharia in the 1970's. According to some versus in the Koran infidels should be exterminated. The Hadith speaks of the life and laws that Muhammed dictated through his talks with Allah. Some of these laws are: 6.1 You can have sex with the wives of your captives - so you can rape them. 6.2 You can marry a girl from the age of 6 and consummate the marriage at the age of 9. 6.3 You can hit your wife and you don't even have to have a reason. 6.4 A eye for a eye. You steal they chop of your hand. 6.5 If you are homosexual you must be executed. 6.6 If you have sex before marriage you wil be whipped and the female wil be stoned to death. 6.7 And last but not least; JIHAD is commanded, meaning if you can you should fight. I wonder that if you read this why people are stil saying that ISIS is not Islam. If ISIS is not Islam why is that they become radicalized in Islamic ways? Some simple questions: How did the violent 'misunderstanding' of Islam become so widespread? Why is it amongst the most devout and committed of Muslims? What are Muslims doing to stop it. What programs do you have in place to teach young Muslims to reject the extremist understanding of Islam? There are no such programs. Why is that? AND THE FINAL BIG QUESTION If Islam is so fantastic, why do Muslims seek refuge in Christian countries rather than try to change the system where they come from? ------ Here is a rough quick edit. English does not make sense sometimes, but ill bet that your oral English is quite good because most of the mistakes were words that sound similar to the correct one. Wish you the best of luck!
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      "body": "First of all to all those leftist who wil come in here and bash the messanger \"i don't care\".\n\nYou can not understand the Koran or Islam without the Hadith (another holy book) which is the word and deeds of the prophet Muhammed, which itself is not the spoken word of God but rather their doctrine and law and practice.\nPeople who leave Islam are considerd apostates and according to there holy books should be killed.\nAccording to Islam there God is merciful, loving, and compasionat. But if you don't worship the one God you are considered a infidel, putting you beneath their women and children. You either pay a fine (Jizya) or be killed.\nIslam is one of the only religions that has laws for goverments inbedded in there religion. That is why countries like Iran, Yemen, and others went from being open and free to closed with Sharia in the 1970's.\nAccording to some versus in the Koran infidels should be exterminated.\nThe Hadith speaks of the life and laws that Muhammed dictated through his talks with Allah. Some of these laws are:\n6.1 You can have sex with the wives of your captives - so you can rape them.\n6.2 You can marry a girl from the age of 6 and consummate the marriage at the age of 9.\n6.3 You can hit your wife and you don't even have to have a reason.\n6.4 A eye for a eye. You steal they chop of your hand.\n6.5 If you are homosexual you must be executed.\n6.6 If you have sex before marriage you wil be whipped and the female wil be stoned to death.\n6.7 And last but not least; JIHAD is commanded, meaning if you can you should fight.\nI wonder that if you read this why people are stil saying that ISIS is not Islam. If ISIS is not Islam why is that they become radicalized in Islamic ways?\n\nSome simple questions:\n\nHow did the violent 'misunderstanding' of Islam become so widespread?\nWhy is it amongst the most devout and committed of Muslims?\nWhat are Muslims doing to stop it.\nWhat programs do you have in place to teach young Muslims to reject the extremist understanding of Islam?\nThere are no such programs. Why is that?\nAND THE FINAL BIG QUESTION\n\nIf Islam is so fantastic, why do Muslims seek refuge in Christian countries rather than try to change the system where they come from?\n\n\n------\n\nHere is a rough quick edit.  English does not make sense sometimes, but ill bet that your oral English is quite good because most of the mistakes were words that sound similar to the correct one.  Wish you the best of luck!",
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