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      "body": "## Spoiler\n\nCex.io is a fraudulent scam exchange, using a Ponzi Scheme, with the exact same logic that Madoff used.... more if you are patient and keep reading.. \n\n## Introduction\n\n![Einstein-Kid.jpg](https://steemitimages.com/DQmb59wxKvii8856zVuqVcNWwHSo1AiUNwvbtXHEBh9HPYk/Einstein-Kid.jpg)\nYou are a genius and noticed a large price difference between exchanges and Cex and you think you are alone. If you are new to the crypto space or have been trading for a while, you would have noticed the difference in prices between the exchanges. This difference is in general at a maximum of 1%. But for some reason, (like a mystery the difference with Cex.io or with South Korean exchanges is 10-20%... How can this be ? \n\n## Why a price difference between exchanges\n\n![de9387_cbb3d97d36c04bb18aaa2e9eac463df6.jpg_srz_388_350_85_22_0.50_1.20_0.jpg](https://steemitimages.com/DQmZyjcxeYKBDifTUpGihXJYxVe5fm1S6MmgC2XToW1TcDT/de9387_cbb3d97d36c04bb18aaa2e9eac463df6.jpg_srz_388_350_85_22_0.50_1.20_0.jpg)\nIn theory, this is the first time in history that the same commodity is traded on so many exchanges simultaneously, 24/7 (stock exchanges open and close, not the crypto exchanges), with such a high volatility (price changes) during the day.  So, again in theory this would explain why we observe price differences between the exchanges. But, how come these prices differences are not a lot more than 1% ? Exchanges are separated, in different countries.. the price of a Mac in uk is around 5% more than in the Us. \n\n## How can the price difference be kept under 1%\n\n![headerImg.jpg](https://steemitimages.com/DQmYYDPsW2uAHmKSHZbarBarwzoYsmnsGS8UXUgmWsysuVt/headerImg.jpg)\n\nHaving a large price difference between two exchanges open the door to a financial activity called \"arbitrage\", something very simple to understand. Buy Bitecoin on exchange X (Kraken) for 10000 usd, go to the more expensive exchange Gdax, sell it for 11,200... send back the Usd to Kraken and continue all day.. So everyone saw this opportunity and developed arbitrage bots to \"regulate\" the price differences between the exchanges, and this difference is kept not by chance but based on the cost of Trading and Transferring. It cost 0.1% to trade and around 0.2% to transfer, so if you go for a complete round it will cost you (0.1%+0.25%)*2 = 0.7%. So on a price difference of 1%, you could win 0.3%. Meaning you need to move a lot of money to make money with this system. And then comes the wolf : \"volume\", not all exchanges have such a volume that you can buy 100K of a currency. And finally, the volatility of the prices can cause your arbitrage direction to change and you will then lose money. So this 1% is kept by very clever bots that are making money for professionals and fighting over 1c per second.. no something you want to try.\n\n\n## Cex Santa Claus 10% Gift to humanity \n\n![Santa-Claus-needed-a-vacation-.jpg](https://steemitimages.com/DQmRxMZhvew1b3ibcBb28Jd1ZfrevvgaMkeetCfotMAVjRK/Santa-Claus-needed-a-vacation-.jpg)\nSo, ok i read until now, but you didn't explain the Cex.io difference of 10% ! Let's start, because it will be very very interesting.. The price difference is between pairs such as BTC/USD, EHT/USD and of course not BTC/ETH. So, if you want to buy on Kraken (or anywhere else) a BTC for 10,000 Usd, transfer to Cex and sell it for 11,000 Usd... you are a genius ! BUT .. For starter you can not send back USD to the other exchanges, so you can not do this 50 times a day, but only once a day. So you are now thinking, it doesn't matter, i will buy 100 BTC and will make a fortune when i sell them, it doesn't matter how many times i do it per day, once is enough for me. I am still a genius.. BUT...\n\n## Santa Claus is late this year\n\n![money-transfer-codes.jpg](https://steemitimages.com/DQmVLaRVrkesZrskPQZztcoPB6C3urru5EuSU7wWjmnDpSP/money-transfer-codes.jpg)\nAll is good until now.. but what happened if you don't get your USD wire to your bank, like for 1 month, 2 months or let's say ever ??? Let's start with the best case scenario and you get your USD after 1 month (best case scenario because this the reality). So you made a fortune ?? You made 9% in a month, meaning 0.3% per day !!! My guess is, if you had bought any crypto currency, kept if for 1 month you would have make a lot more... now after 2  months you are done to 0.15% per day (as a comparison you should use the lending platform paying you 1% per day - also ponzi, but you cares for now). And then, there is the case of never gets your USD to your bank.. the Internet is full of stories of people in that case.\n\n## How does the Ponzi works\n\n![madoff-sm.jpg](https://steemitimages.com/DQmbentZiHQDzLdbeeKRdkxuK5aJKF2Xvk1C6Q4GExt6fNC/madoff-sm.jpg)\nYou were skeptical when you read that it takes at best 1 month to get your usd back or even 2 months or more.. let me explain why this is linked to the ponzi... So Cex is paying you 9% more for the same crypto than anybody else. Where does the difference comes from ? People would tell you , because on this exchange people are ready to buy crypto 10% more expensive than anywhere else... I don't know who these people are, but don't think people are stupid, nobody is buying more expensive if he can go to another exchange. So who is buying at this price ? And the answer is : Cex bot. Cex bot is following the prices on the market and always pays 9% more (if it wasn't a bot the price difference would change during the day from 5 to 70%..). So Cex is stupid and buying more expensive than everybody else... NO.\n\n## The Ponzi Logic\n\n![shutterstock_274598024.jpg](https://steemitimages.com/DQmbvaNLQxRah5iTCJxvvLETAiBmzBhdD9cCUkwBGvJViDi/shutterstock_274598024.jpg)\nBecause there are so many people coming with  their crypto to sell them, you only need to pay the people who want to leave to fiat with the people keeping their money on the exchange, the new people entering or another mechanism. Because you need to pay the 9% difference, you need a way to make this money somehow. \n\nThe logic is the following : Cex will keep your Usd as long as it takes for them to make at least 9%, but more 12-15% benefits so they can pay you. On their platform, you will notice the price differences between bid and ask (seller and buyer) are enormous, so what their bot is doing is a system called market making in order to beat you (the user) every-time you try to sell or buy, so you actually buy expensive and sell cheap. Using the market making for a long period of time with your USD, and some point the system will make 12% benefits and will decide to pay you. Or the system can bet on the price increase of a crypto, buy it with your usd, wait for it to be 12% more, sell it and pay you. \n\n## But I am a genius, I will sell into euros not usd\n![euro-running-after-dollar-1024x697.jpg](https://steemitimages.com/DQmdYSnax5ZveetrfmUSNhhrybaJ3TUUvrsMdDMeQKp9ZTq/euro-running-after-dollar-1024x697.jpg)\n\nIf you want to sell your crypto in Euros, suddenly two things happen... first your 9% are gone ! simply gone, because the ratio of euro/usd on Cex is the most expensive in the universe it is exactly 9% (such as surprise) more than the market price: around 1.29 on Cex against 1.2 on the market. Second you will get your money in 48-72h (if you send them 50 support emails), but not in one month. So suddenly when there is no 9% cex.io pays within a week .. This simply facts proves the previous paragraph. \n\n## When Madoff goes to jail and you don't see your usd back\n\n![reuters-bernie-madoff.jpg](https://steemitimages.com/DQmSoj3pZxQe5RCrRCQvCQxgCtV8eHqsJYxpCqwXJm5xdt8/reuters-bernie-madoff.jpg)\nSo this system is great for them, not so bad for you (only you get your money in 30,60,90 days) until it goes bad. How does it go bad.. when you have a lot more people that want their money in fiat and far less people who want to stay on the exchange storing their fiat or crypto, you need to suddenly pay 9% out of your pocket to so many people that you go bankrupt. So you simply don't pay ! You wait for something to happen, which is called price increase. Because you had the customer usd you simply buy crypto and wait for this crypto to increase in value 12%, so you can pay.. BUT. \n\nAny crash will kill you and it killed Madoff in 2008. Everyone want their money and you don't have time with the money of the new users or the money you store to make the 12% in 1 month, 2 months... Or even worse, the people who want their 9% are the people who sold expensive and currently the 9% are 20% because the crypto price fall. You have little chance to make so much 20% if the sellers are say 2/3 or the population... So you don't pay, don't pay.... and people wait for 30, 60, 90 and sometimes for ever to see their Usd , because you can not pay. \n\nThen you start stealing people crypto by not honoring the transfers, or steal usd from new entrant by losing the wires.. but at the end this goes bad for everybody . \n\n## Conclusions\n\n![angrycustomer.jpg](https://steemitimages.com/DQmY8T8mxSKsHeZa6cXgFfHudgpNkNwGN6Fa5PB9XLLyE15/angrycustomer.jpg)\nI have bad news, you are not a genius, everybody else is not stupid and no company can give you a 9% without making more. Everybody tried to do this and thousand are filling Trustpilot, Reddit and Steemit with their story of losing their money and never getting their wires. Santa Claus doesn't exist and crypto space is no exception. \n\n## References\n\nHTTPS://STEEMIT.COM/CRYPTOCURRENCY/@MATHREX/C-CEX-EXCHANGE-IS-A-SCAM-NEVER-USE-THIS-EXCHANGE-FOR-ANY-CRYPTO-TRANSACTIONS-READ-REVIEW-HERE\nHTTPS://STEEMIT.COM/CEX/@GOBENO/CEX-IO-CLASS-ACTION-FRAUDULENT-SCAM-EXCHANGE\nhttps://steemit.com/bitcoin/@masi/cex-io-currency-exchange-review\n HTTPS://BITCOINTALK.ORG/INDEX.PHP?TOPIC=2174542.0\n HTTPS://WWW.TRUSTPILOT.COM/REVIEW/CEX.IO\n HTTPS://WWW.REDDIT.COM/R/BITCOIN/COMMENTS/7JQ3UQ/IS_CEXIO_A_SCAM_MY_DEPOSIT_OF_10000_STILL_NOT_IN\nHTTPS://WWW.REDDIT.COM/R/CEXIO/COMMENTS/7BKOX5/CEXIO_STEALS_MONEY/",
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      "body": "Dear All,\n\n![download.jpg](https://steemitimages.com/DQmaW4yD7XtDDkQsyMGs4ua4kvWyG8r7nDofKrurMrVkVx8/download.jpg)\n\nthis is my obligation to help and protect the community against exchanges like cex.io. Thousands of people have been robbed by this exchange which model will be explained hereafter. The only way to get your money back is creating a class action and sue the company with all the plaintiffs at once. \n\n# The situation\n\nThere are a thousand, you read correctly, 1.3k reviews on the topic on trustpilot alone. (https://www.trustpilot.com/review/cex.io) \n\nPeople do not get their money out of this exchange or even send money to the exchange which is never credited to their account on the exchange. 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This is largest spread in human history between two exchanges, and it lasts all day long.\n\nThen comes the surprise...\n\n\n# Company Incorporation\n\nThe company is officially incorporated in the uk, but the owners are both Ukrainian and the real company is in Ukraine, using the Uk as a mailbox. The company capital is GBP 100 , so if they go down, this is the amount they need to pay back. A bit scary when you think about millions of dollars on the exchange.\n\n![Screen Shot 2018-01-10 at 12.14.26 PM.png](https://steemitimages.com/DQmZpHqjkP4Jc3Sw4cGBMyNsrppesJgdoB8E6w6W2UtzCvN/Screen%20Shot%202018-01-10%20at%2012.14.26%20PM.png)\n\nFrom their last report in the uk, the company is losing money, lots of it. So there is no surprise, they don't let you take your money out, they need to pay their employees. \n\n![Screen Shot 2018-01-10 at 12.15.31 PM.png](https://steemitimages.com/DQmNf84x46BZdj1R98VMsZJZcjsD7aWJnTs7VquaQagnzXG/Screen%20Shot%202018-01-10%20at%2012.15.31%20PM.png)\n\n\n# Downtime\n\nLet's assume, lots of the allegations in this posts are not right. If you take the downtime of the service alone (10 downtimes during January 2017), you can easily check on the trustworthiness of the company by the way they are handling it. They can either say \"Hey sorry we had a crash because of overload and working on it\" (the truth) or they can say \"Maintenance in progress, ETA 3h\" ![Screen Shot 2018-01-10 at 11.35.16 AM.png](https://steemitimages.com/DQmXPPDxroMznba33PmgvFFoY5VnAR8c8EsxsRRE9kriS1S/Screen%20Shot%202018-01-10%20at%2011.35.16%20AM.png)\n![Screen Shot 2018-01-10 at 11.36.12 AM.png](https://steemitimages.com/DQmckXAf7Cs4B4ZSmwitsbfXmnNCWszNYv7xaMzr81EFgQH/Screen%20Shot%202018-01-10%20at%2011.36.12%20AM.png)\n\n# Trading Bot\n\nAs you can see by yourself this exchange is only making 1% of the trades, but it seems very active, how is this possible ?\n\n99% of the trading on cex is done by bots, meaning there very few users and you are competing against bots (automatic programs) which main purpose is to have you buy expensive and sell cheap. The exchange is collecting the difference.. You only need to see how fast the transaction change with 1c difference, and you can spot a real user transaction by a fix price. You can then compare with Binance or Poloniex to understand how a real exchange looks like. \n\n![Screen Shot 2018-01-10 at 11.21.08 AM.png](https://steemitimages.com/DQmRrCFt7cdiecXVjXLTH2yZqpmBujvXk279mThR14tHhg7/Screen%20Shot%202018-01-10%20at%2011.21.08%20AM.png)\n\n# The Euro Surprise\n\nNow, if you are using cex.io, you may tell me something like : Convert to euro and use SEPA wires to be sure that you get your fund out. So here comes the surprise (du chef), suddenly the arbitrage you were building on (9-10%) will disappear because the BTC/USD <1.29 BTC/EUR, when the normal conversion (today is 1.2) so here comes the 9% !! ![Screen Shot 2018-01-10 at 11.48.56 AM.png](https://steemitimages.com/DQmQiU3kafRVJuGrDtYS6btV61p7oN7dqHTk15SnqT5yHqy/Screen%20Shot%202018-01-10%20at%2011.48.56%20AM.png) \n\n## Crypto currencies transfer safe until now\n\nBecause people do not create a community to fight back, the exchange (centralized of course) can simply make some small adjustments of your crypto balances, in order to \"help improve the service\". \n\n![Screen Shot 2018-01-10 at 12.05.53 PM.png](https://steemitimages.com/DQmVoKCaWiLKGYNEctqLyT6duB33xCg473vMJTQhLWtT66m/Screen%20Shot%202018-01-10%20at%2012.05.53%20PM.png)\n\n## Fiat Withdraw Small is beautiful\n\nSo now you start getting the picture.. but less keep the best part of the end. Try to get your money out, because as a normal person if you got 1.100 usd for ETH on Cex, you will not send this ETH to a normal exchange (Bitfinex) where the rate is 1.000 USd/ ETH. So you try to withdraw your money to a bank.. and then you wait.\n\nIf you send less than 500 euros, you will pay a very cheap commission of 50 euros (10%) on the withdraw, but the withdraw may arrive at destination. But, you don't want to pay at 10% commission and lose your arbitrage, so you withdraw 10k to make it 0.5%, and then you will never see you money again !\n\nIn this example, we are talking about a 5 days SEPA transfer who never arrived. (SEPA is a convention between banks that a transfer must +1 day maximum)\n\n![Screen Shot 2018-01-10 at 12.38.28 PM.png](https://steemitimages.com/DQmUyZPkxwgHCDk6wsLicPJJmvgYARfb424rVK1qXKTnhok/Screen%20Shot%202018-01-10%20at%2012.38.28%20PM.png)\n\n# Fraudulent Support\n\nLet's assume, we are exaggerating our assumptions regarding the withdraw and some people did receive their money. I am adding a very nice tweet from today.![DTHoXhQX0AAHXBa.jpg](https://steemitimages.com/DQmXTpXyNpKPYrXBpZJ5uk2ZbJtaXWkeqCEGq1TBeNcimM2/DTHoXhQX0AAHXBa.jpg)\n\nAh, ok bank holidays... but in what country ??? ![Screen Shot 2018-01-10 at 11.46.08 AM.png](https://steemitimages.com/DQmaMDDY5AHDSMSupvsLicEg35NXbcub1Lw1GXuqo1rVpBS/Screen%20Shot%202018-01-10%20at%2011.46.08%20AM.png)\n\nThey could again go like : \"We are under heavy load with two many users and can't proceed all the requests\" , this is scary but true. User feel differently it seems :\n![Screen Shot 2018-01-10 at 12.06.30 PM.png](https://steemitimages.com/DQmPz2SZSg7xDyda6CKwMAW8qk49Srfd3cj5ds4TYZDuWXk/Screen%20Shot%202018-01-10%20at%2012.06.30%20PM.png)\n\n# Class Action\n\nI invite everybody who reads these lines, to share this post and join force by sending an email to [email protected]",
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