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nomadsteemupvoted (50.00%) @thinkliberty / where-s-this-post-brexit-crisis-then

2017/04/11 11:33:36 UTC

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2016/08/29 21:21:33 UTC

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2016/08/29 20:50:51 UTC

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2016/08/29 20:17:39 UTC

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thinklibertypublished a new post: 20-years-a-slave-uk-taxes

2016/08/29 20:13:24 UTC

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body	<html> <p><strong>Figures from the TaxPayers' Alliance reveal the extent of the burden of taxation in the UK, with the average household having to work for over 20 years just to cover the tax bill. </strong></p> <p><img src="https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1640055697/tpa-avatar.jpg" width="300" height="300"/> </p> <p>It is a topic rarely addressed in the quasi-socialist political environment of the UK but now and then the chance to demonstrate to voters how the cost of living is ratcheted up by a pervasive and complex tax code arises. And this is what the TaxPayers' Alliance has attempted to do with data from the ONS, detailing how the tax burden on different households has grown in the last 20 years.</p> <p>The Alliance, which frequently calls for the government to tighten its belt in order to make significant reductions in taxation, found that at the 2014-2015 rate of tax the average household in the UK would pay  £826,030 over a working lifetime of 44 years (from 21 to 65) and 15 years of retirement. The TPA calculated that to pay off this bill alone the average household would have to work for over 20 years but, the poorer you are, the worse the picture gets for you. </p> <p>An average household in the bottom 20% of income with a gross income of only   £13,841 per year faces a lifetime tax bill of  £312,973 and has to work for 23 years, an above-average length of time, to cover its tax bill. The picture looks slightly rosier for households in the top 20% but not much as the average household in that quintile faces a lifetime tax bill of £1,686,970 and still needs to work for 19 years in order to cover its tax bill, only 4 years below the poorest households and 1 year below the UK average. </p> <p>These figures amply demonstrate how taxation can indeed undermine the incentive to work, especially among less skilled labourers and the insidious, ever-expanding nature of taxation is clear to see. In the 1994-95 financial year, the lifetime tax an average household could expect to pay was  £427,980 but in 2014-15, that figure had grown to  £826,030, an increase of almost  100%. In the case of the bottom 20% of households, the expected life tax bill has increased in the aforementioned period from  £158,881 to  £319,732, an increase of over 100%. </p> <p>Interestingly, despite it being a popular line to take among Tory-bashing leftists, the suggestion that the well-off are being spoiled in their taxation by the Conservative government, the biggest tax increase year-on-year between 2013-2014 and 2014-2015 was faced by the top 20% of UK households with them facing a 4.3% increase in their expected lifetime tax bill as opposed to a 2.7% increase for the average household and a 2.2% increase for the bottom 20%.</p> <p>The figures give a troubling glimpse into the impact of taxation on the ordinary working man and woman in the UK but don't expect them to be given too much coverage by the press or parties after the summer recess. </p> <p><br></p> <p><br></p> <p>You can find the link the link to the TPA's findings here:   https://d3n8a8pro7vhmx.cloudfront.net/taxpayersalliance/pages/6761/attachments/original/1472132879/Lifetime_tax.pdf?1472132879   </p> <p>    </p> </html>
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thebluepandareplied to @thinkliberty / re-thinkliberty-re-thebluepanda-re-repholder-owen-smith-and-his-challenge-to-article-50-20160826t200308067z

2016/08/26 20:02:51 UTC

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thinklibertyreplied to @thebluepanda / re-thebluepanda-re-repholder-owen-smith-and-his-challenge-to-article-50-20160826t192727420z

2016/08/26 19:27:27 UTC

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body	It's a shame you share Owen Smith's vision of a tinpot democracy. If you look at the stats on this, polling data indicates that only 5% of those who voted to leave regret doing so and the same is true of those who voted to remain as well. Youth voters, me being one, have no excuse for such a poor turn out on their part. There is even proof that David Cameron sought to haul in as much of the youth vote as possible in the referendum by advertising the need to register to vote on Facebook to exclusively young voters. As for Johnson and Farage, they made quite the opposite of fools of themselves, didn't they? After all, it was they who won the vote. Your praise of the EU as an organisation 'for peace' is very telling indeed. Tell me, how has it helped to foster peace in the Ukraine when its officials, such as Catherine Ashton, actively encouraged revolution alongside the Americans? Did it help to prevent the break-up of Yugoslavia? The EU did not form into the political union you praise it as being until the early 1990s. What kept European countries from warring with one another after 1945 and the USSR at bay was NATO. Diplomacy is not exclusive to the existence of a political union which undermines the sovereignty of its members.
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      "body": "It's a shame you share Owen Smith's vision of a tinpot democracy. If you look at the stats on this, polling data indicates that only 5% of those who voted to leave regret doing so and the same is true of those who voted to remain as well. Youth voters, me being one, have no excuse for such a poor turn out on their part. There is even proof that David Cameron sought to haul in as much of the youth vote as possible in the referendum by advertising the need to register to vote on Facebook to exclusively young voters.\n\nAs for Johnson and Farage, they made quite the opposite of fools of themselves, didn't they? After all, it was they who won the vote.\n\nYour praise of the EU as an organisation 'for peace' is very telling indeed. Tell me, how has it helped to foster peace in the Ukraine when its officials, such as Catherine Ashton, actively encouraged revolution alongside the Americans? Did it help to prevent the break-up of Yugoslavia? The EU did not form into the political union you praise it as being until the early 1990s. What kept European countries from warring with one another after 1945 and the USSR at bay was NATO. Diplomacy is not exclusive to the existence of a political union which undermines the sovereignty of its members.",
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thinklibertyreplied to @thebluepanda / re-thebluepanda-re-repholder-owen-smith-and-his-challenge-to-article-50-20160826t192637392z

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lordfriendzonereplied to @thinkliberty / re-thinkliberty-clinton-debunked-what-farage-really-said-20160826t115723901z

2016/08/26 12:57:12 UTC

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thinklibertypublished a new post: clinton-debunked-what-farage-really-said

2016/08/26 12:54:36 UTC

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2016/08/23 23:42:21 UTC

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thinklibertypublished a new post: the-squatting-socialist

2016/08/23 23:41:51 UTC

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body	<html> <p>It's been a funny old Labour leadership race, hasn't it? We've got a post-retirement age, tie-less, bearded socialist who hit his prime during the 1980s (retro, right?) up against an obscure Labour MP from Wales who claims to be 'just as radical' as his opponent despite the fact that it was less than 10 years ago that he proclaimed himself an adherent to Blairism, an ideology more likely to appeal to Conservatives than socialists, and who only a few weeks ago found his campaign caught up in a misogyny row following a promise to 'smash' Britain's new Prime Minister 'back on her heels'. </p> <p>And whilst I still staunchly maintain that the leadership challenger, Owen Smith (pictured below), announces policies according to a wheel of fortune on his desk that he gives a spin every morning, on Tuesday the leadership battle took yet another turn for the comical.</p> <p> <img src="http://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img/dynamic/139/590x/owen-smith-688792.jpg" width="590" height="350"/></p> <p>In what I'm sure struck the perpetrator as pure genius at the time and everyone else as refined idiocy about two hours later, as the incumbent Labour leader, Jeremy Corbyn, traveled north to Newcastle on the train from London, his team took the opportunity to video their leader squatting on the floor of a train carriage due to an apparent lack of unused unreserved seats. In the video, Corbyn took the opportunity to advocate for the renationalisation of the railways by saying: 'The reality is there's not enough trains, we need more of them.' But it wasn't too long after the publication of this endearing video that head of the Virgin brand, Richard Branson, took to Twitter with a video of his own which would thoroughly embarrass Corbyn and his team. In the CCTV footage, Corbyn is shown to be returning to a train seat for the two hour remainder of the journey following the filming of the video. Virgin also revealed that seats were available prior to the filming of the video. </p> <p><img src="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/news/2016/08/23/CorbynTrain1-large_trans++9nR5rZ1XXouEycP-TeINg1wgSgYb--FIEbahFSFHSQg.jpg"/></p> <p>Political differences aside, I think it was terribly kind of Jeremy to have taken the media bullet instead of Owen Smith for a change. Smith decided to tweet his gratitude for all the nation to behold by assuring us that his campaign remained 'on track'.  </p> <p> </p> </html>
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thinklibertyreplied to @beanz / re-beanz-re-candy49-re-thinkliberty-where-s-this-post-brexit-crisis-then-20160823t224423256z

2016/08/23 22:44:21 UTC

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thinklibertyreplied to @beanz / re-beanz-re-thinkliberty-where-s-this-post-brexit-crisis-then-20160823t224308433z

2016/08/23 22:43:06 UTC

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beanzreplied to @thinkliberty / re-thinkliberty-where-s-this-post-brexit-crisis-then-20160820t201242702z

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candy49replied to @thinkliberty / re-thinkliberty-where-s-this-post-brexit-crisis-then-20160820t195253536z

2016/08/20 19:52:57 UTC

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2016/08/20 19:21:06 UTC

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2016/08/19 18:31:12 UTC

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thinklibertypublished a new post: the-impossible-position-of-jeremy-corbyn

2016/08/19 15:55:06 UTC

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body	I don't see how that provides any sound basis to vote for him though. I dislike both Clinton and Trump yet one of them, most likely the former, will end up in the White House. Instead of holding your nose and voting for someone you quite clearly disagree with. At least if you vote third party in November, in a few years time when we bemoan the 2016 presidential election and the two utterly deplorable candidates it turned out you can say you had the conviction to vote with your conscience rather than pandering to the meaningless and barely distinguishable two parties.
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body	In a similar boat. The last straw for me on Facebook was the permanent removal of the Occupy Democrats Logic page. I ridded myself of Twitter a long time ago after concluding that it was impossible to engage in any sort of meaningful debate with a 140 character limit. Here's to a freer platform!
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Voting Power100.00%

Downvote Power100.00%

Resource Credits100.00%

Reputation Progress48.58%

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Account Metadata

POSTING JSON METADATA
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JSON METADATA
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Public Keys

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Public Keys

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Public Keys

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Memo

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