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VOTING POWER100.00%
DOWNVOTE POWER100.00%
RESOURCE CREDITS100.00%
REPUTATION PROGRESS0.00%
Net Worth
0.080USD
STEEM
0.000STEEM
SBD
0.088SBD
Effective Power
5.007SP
├── Own SP
0.650SP
└── Incoming Deleg
+4.357SP

Detailed Balance

STEEM
balance
0.000STEEM
market_balance
0.000STEEM
savings_balance
0.000STEEM
reward_steem_balance
0.000STEEM
STEEM POWER
Own SP
0.650SP
Delegated Out
0.000SP
Delegation In
4.357SP
Effective Power
5.007SP
Reward SP (pending)
0.074SP
SBD
sbd_balance
0.000SBD
sbd_conversions
0.000SBD
sbd_market_balance
0.000SBD
savings_sbd_balance
0.000SBD
reward_sbd_balance
0.088SBD
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Account Info

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id215998
rank1,010,177
reputation833457900
created2017-06-23T06:28:54
recovery_accountsteem
proxyNone
post_count6
comment_count0
lifetime_vote_count0
witnesses_voted_for0
last_post2017-07-28T20:58:21
last_root_post2017-07-28T20:58:21
last_vote_time2017-08-03T00:15:12
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can_vote1
voting_power0
delayed_votes0
balance0.000 STEEM
savings_balance0.000 STEEM
sbd_balance0.000 SBD
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vesting_shares1057.608359 VESTS
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vesting_balance0.000 STEEM
vesting_withdraw_rate0.000000 VESTS
next_vesting_withdrawal1969-12-31T23:59:59
withdrawn0
to_withdraw0
withdraw_routes0
savings_withdraw_requests0
last_account_recovery1970-01-01T00:00:00
reset_accountnull
last_owner_update1970-01-01T00:00:00
last_account_update1970-01-01T00:00:00
minedNo
sbd_seconds0
sbd_last_interest_payment1970-01-01T00:00:00
savings_sbd_last_interest_payment1970-01-01T00:00:00
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Withdraw Routes

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From Date
To Date
steemdelegated 4.357 SP to @whetherman
2026/05/18 08:11:36
delegatorsteem
delegateewhetherman
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steemdelegated 2.689 SP to @whetherman
2026/05/13 12:05:48
delegatorsteem
delegateewhetherman
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steemdelegated 4.365 SP to @whetherman
2026/04/26 07:20:48
delegatorsteem
delegateewhetherman
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steemdelegated 2.715 SP to @whetherman
2026/01/24 05:09:24
delegatorsteem
delegateewhetherman
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steemdelegated 2.816 SP to @whetherman
2024/12/18 00:18:15
delegatorsteem
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steemdelegated 2.920 SP to @whetherman
2023/11/14 15:57:06
delegatorsteem
delegateewhetherman
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steemdelegated 4.726 SP to @whetherman
2023/09/22 12:38:51
delegatorsteem
delegateewhetherman
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steemdelegated 4.862 SP to @whetherman
2022/11/03 19:49:33
delegatorsteem
delegateewhetherman
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steemdelegated 4.998 SP to @whetherman
2022/01/18 00:50:15
delegatorsteem
delegateewhetherman
vesting shares8127.808415 VESTS
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steemdelegated 5.111 SP to @whetherman
2021/06/14 07:56:24
delegatorsteem
delegateewhetherman
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steemdelegated 5.226 SP to @whetherman
2020/12/11 18:06:45
delegatorsteem
delegateewhetherman
vesting shares8499.424677 VESTS
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steemdelegated 1.176 SP to @whetherman
2020/12/06 11:41:51
delegatorsteem
delegateewhetherman
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steemdelegated 5.230 SP to @whetherman
2020/12/05 21:44:33
delegatorsteem
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steemdelegated 1.181 SP to @whetherman
2020/11/03 06:08:21
delegatorsteem
delegateewhetherman
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steemdelegated 5.355 SP to @whetherman
2020/05/09 12:46:39
delegatorsteem
delegateewhetherman
vesting shares8708.437890 VESTS
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steemdelegated 1.201 SP to @whetherman
2020/05/08 17:26:15
delegatorsteem
delegateewhetherman
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steemdelegated 5.363 SP to @whetherman
2020/04/16 04:20:57
delegatorsteem
delegateewhetherman
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2019/06/23 07:32:30
parent authorwhetherman
parent permlinkis-music-timeless-or-strapped-to-time
authorsteemitboard
permlinksteemitboard-notify-whetherman-20190623t073229000z
title
bodyCongratulations @whetherman! You received a personal award! <table><tr><td>https://steemitimages.com/70x70/http://steemitboard.com/@whetherman/birthday2.png</td><td>Happy Birthday! - You are on the Steem blockchain for 2 years!</td></tr></table> <sub>_You can view [your badges on your Steem Board](https://steemitboard.com/@whetherman) and compare to others on the [Steem Ranking](https://steemitboard.com/ranking/index.php?name=whetherman)_</sub> **Do not miss the last post from @steemitboard:** <table><tr><td><a href="https://steemit.com/steemitboard/@steemitboard/the-steem-community-has-lost-an-epic-member-farewell-woflhart"><img src="https://steemitimages.com/64x128/https://cdn.steemitimages.com/DQmQWnM36SWCPGn98nY83M1ArgweMz5fnovQEp2E4FiDdug/Wolfhart_header.png"></a></td><td><a href="https://steemit.com/steemitboard/@steemitboard/the-steem-community-has-lost-an-epic-member-farewell-woflhart">The Steem community has lost an epic member! Farewell @woflhart!</a></td></tr><tr><td><a href="https://steemit.com/steemtoolbar/@steemitboard/steemtoolbar-update-display-bug-fixed"><img src="https://steemitimages.com/64x128/http://i.cubeupload.com/7CiQEO.png"></a></td><td><a href="https://steemit.com/steemtoolbar/@steemitboard/steemtoolbar-update-display-bug-fixed">SteemitBoard - Witness Update</a></td></tr><tr><td><a href="https://steemit.com/steem/@steemitboard/do-not-miss-the-coming-rocky-mountain-steem-meetup-and-get-a-new-community-badge"><img src="https://steemitimages.com/64x128/https://cdn.steemitimages.com/DQmUphCGZFWgt6bJ1XTtunV7esnwy6bxnGqcLcHAV3NEqnQ/meetup-rocky-mountain.png"></a></td><td><a href="https://steemit.com/steem/@steemitboard/do-not-miss-the-coming-rocky-mountain-steem-meetup-and-get-a-new-community-badge">Do not miss the coming Rocky Mountain Steem Meetup and get a new community badge!</a></td></tr></table> ###### [Vote for @Steemitboard as a witness](https://v2.steemconnect.com/sign/account-witness-vote?witness=steemitboard&approve=1) to get one more award and increased upvotes!
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2018/06/23 08:26:30
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2017/07/28 20:58:21
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bodyHis music "will not stand the test of time," claims Emily Jupp...but what does that even mean? Music critics are the most absurd invention of the past century. I don't know the exact history of music critics or how long they have been mulling about spouting their hot air about the nearest artist, but it seems recent as far as a career is concerned. I'm sure there were negative nellies walking around the humble village shaming their neighbor's artistry as long as there has been a village idiot (interchangeable?) and nothing better to do, but the modern critic has morphed into a suppressor of innovation....which is what artistry is primarily about. I was recently interested in a musician in the Indie Pop scene named Jack Garratt who's music I happen to like, and while I was researching his management contact, I came across an article entitled "Jack Garratt: Be prepared for year of blandness" and thought I would take a look, since personally I found that a number of the tracks I heard had exciting and well procured sounds. Critic Emily Jupp's main points: "If you were paying proper attention [in his live performance] to the sound, you would have noticed that his singing was off-key and out of time, too." "His songs won't stand the test of time, they aren't powerful or moving but that's okay because that isn't what music is about any more. Now it's about finding someone inoffensive" ... "Take a listen, then go away, make a cup of tea and see if you can recall a single lyric or hum any of the tunes. Didn't think so. " Modern music is a "quest for blandness" that would have thought "David Bowie was too big a risk" "The kind of stuff that can be bashed out in a studio in a day to a regular formula. " (You can read the article here http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/music/features/jack-garratt-be-prepared-for-a-year-of-blandness-a6832991.html if you like) My inspiration to write this post is not to defend Jack Garratt and claim he is anything close to a musical genius, but to show the faults of the critic. As a musician, I am playing a music critics's critic! First off, the reason I was contacting his management was in complete agreement with the problems with his live singing. I am a vocal trainer by trade, and I heard the problems with his studio work not translating to his live performance. This is very common with young musicians, unfortunately, due to the quick attention new artists get with the internet instead of years of deep cultivation and training while rising to stardom. To be successful in today's industry you have to spend 85% of your time working social media, allocating only 14.7% of your time on writing recording producing and performing your music, and 0.3%-0.0% of your time cultivating your musicianship/and craft. The pressures of the viral music internet scene are nearly insurmountable and the chance to develop vocal knowledge and health--a long term process--falls by the wayside for "fifteen minutes of fame" that they try to stretch into a career. I digress, I will save my vocal expertise for another post. I agree with her that the modern music industry goes with formula and rarely takes on people trying to stretch the pop formula, which I would actually argue Jack Garratt attempts to do in some of his songs. I would also allow the rest of her harsh article because she is entitled to her own tastes and opinions. What I take issue on with this lady, however, is her statement about standing the test of time, and whether it could be bashed out in the studio in a day. First off, there are some crappy pop songs that are not on the Indy scene that could be bashed out in a day. Those songs are utter crap and I would dismiss Jack Garratt's music entirely if it fit that description. His lyrics, while a tad unfocused because he is a millennial in a crazy world does have enough thought in it that requires some contemplation and time to feel out. The melodies, phrasing, and lyrics are nuanced enough to demonstrate an interest in capturing a moment, and his production obviously takes a lot of time to map out orchestrate and mix. But this "test of time" shit?! What does that even mean to stand the test of time? Will someone like the melody in the future? Will they remember it? Does the content have mystical relevance that can transcend generational differences? Is that even the function of good music? I like a good pop song. Michael Jackson and Stevie Wonder are two of my greatest heroes. However I like innvoative music to challenge my perceptions, or exciting yet predictable music to get sweaty dancing to, or brainwave entrainment and hertz precision music to alter my state into one of tranquility or alertness or meditation. Does a flower stand the test of time? Does its existence have relevance or profound beauty if no one ever sees it? Do people only hum beautifully orchestrated melodies, or just what merely gets lodged in their head? Nothing stands the test of time if it isn't continually hyped and remastered. Lyrics lose their relevance after being highly relevant for three generations even. Thoughts are fleeting. Beyond that, a beautiful lyric from Pink Floyd will be just as confounding and confusing a century from now as the entirety of Shakespeare's work, because even prose has context. I happen to hum Jack Garratt's good song choruses when I step away if I haven't shifted to other music. Not too long ago I put out an album aiming to be pop-accessible while innovative and unconventional at the same time. I thought it was really successful and I love every minute of it, but I did learn a thing or two. The biggest lesson is: people remember and hum a three second kitsch in a song more than the crafted verse or chorus. Kitsch and simplicity is what gets lodged in the brain. I experimented with putting a "whoa-oh-oh" in a song, for example, and that is what people get stuck on and sing the rest of the day after listening. Stevie Wonder, a man who wrote one of the largest volume of hits in anyone's career, wrote two of my favorite songs that are nearly impossible to sing after you walk away and have a cup of tea. I am a professional musician and I had to practice to be able to successfully hum Stevie's "Looking For Another Pure Love" walking down the street a cappella, and from memory. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cY2fz5RBgvQ and likewise trying to sing his hit "I Can't Help It" made popular by Michael Jackson https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QnhWML43NI8 Clearly, good music isn't meant to be committed to memory to be of quality and beauty. Plus you can only have so many songs like Madonna's "Material Girl" that are both simple and catchy without getting extremely redundant. So what is music meant to do? In answer, the great Buddha in true form would silently lift and point to a flower without a word. People's music didn't get critiqued even right after hitting the charts in the olden days, and not only that, their music had to be hyped for a long time with repeated radio play before they were big enough to fill a major venue. They had A LOT of time on their hands to train their voice, their performance, their musicianship, and anything else before performing that people today neglect to remember. Sure some of the best albums of all time like "Dark Side Of The Moon" took more than a year to produce because record companies actually invested in their acts to make the best recording possible since there was value in selling a recording back then, and the technology wasn't as quick as today. Yet, even the greatest songs in the world were sometimes knocked out in a single day which neither delegitimizes or diminishes the quality of those songs. As a songwriter I can say sometimes i have sat down at the piano and channeled my best work out of nowhere in one sitting. Other times, I would get parts of a song and wait to see (sometimes months) when the rest of it wanted to come out. Music composition is a birthing process and some labors or quick, or sometimes complications arise and the labor lasts for days ,or the baby comes out late or premature. Is the baby any less of a wonder based on its birthing time? Perhaps the true and unrealized purpose of a critic is to help make babies more awesome by offering constructive criticism, and acknowledging that the music industry is exposing premature artists because of current technology. People like seeing imperfect products or artistry in process, as youtube attests. If music critics have any worth, they should help these musicians gaining attention in their process rather than calling them shit when there is SOMETHING there. When there is zero potential and the music has no redeemable qualities, by all means call it shit because maybe someone needs to tell them to make music a private hobby, but Jack Garratt isn't THAT shitty by any stretch of the imagination. I advise music critics to make their articles worth reading by being thoughtful rather than dismissive. I agree David Bowie was a great musician, but no one was dangling Rachmaninoff, or George Gershwin over his head when he was developing and performing his work, or calling him an inferior knock-off of Miles Davis Which is how similar Bowie's psychedelic rock music is to Garratt's Neo Soul Pop. Constructive criticism is really taken to heart by critiqued musicians, (especially when they are young/new) so make those words count....don't just make the "word count" of your editors. And that's all I have to say about that.
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      "body": "His music \"will not stand the test of time,\" claims Emily Jupp...but what does that even mean?\n\nMusic critics are the most absurd invention of the past century.  I don't know the exact history of music critics or how long they have been mulling about spouting their hot air about the nearest artist, but it seems recent as far as a career is concerned.  I'm sure there were negative nellies walking around the humble village shaming their neighbor's artistry as long as there has been a village idiot (interchangeable?) and nothing better to do, but the modern critic has morphed into a suppressor of innovation....which is what artistry is primarily about.\n\nI was recently interested in a musician in the Indie Pop scene named Jack Garratt who's music I happen to like, and while I was researching his management contact, I came across an article entitled \"Jack Garratt: Be prepared for  year of blandness\" and thought I would take a look, since personally I found that a number of the tracks I heard had exciting and well procured sounds.\n\nCritic Emily Jupp's main points:\n\"If you were paying proper attention [in his live performance] to the sound, you would have noticed that his singing was off-key and out of time, too.\"\n\n\"His songs won't stand the test of time, they aren't powerful or moving but that's okay because that isn't what music is about any more.  Now it's about finding someone inoffensive\" ... \"Take a listen, then go away, make a cup of tea and see if you can recall a single lyric or hum any of the tunes. Didn't think so. \"\n\nModern music is a \"quest for blandness\" that would have thought \"David Bowie was too big a risk\"\n\n\"The kind of stuff that can be bashed out in a studio in a day to a regular formula. \"\n\n(You can read the article here http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/music/features/jack-garratt-be-prepared-for-a-year-of-blandness-a6832991.html if you like)\n\nMy inspiration to write this post is not to defend Jack Garratt and claim he is anything close to a musical genius, but to show the faults of the critic.  As a musician, I am playing a music critics's critic!\n\nFirst off, the reason I was contacting his management was in complete agreement with the problems with his live singing.  I am a vocal trainer by trade, and I heard the problems with his studio work not translating to his live performance.  This is very common with young musicians, unfortunately, due to the quick attention new artists get with the internet instead of years of deep cultivation and training while rising to stardom.  To be successful in today's industry you have to spend 85% of your time working social media, allocating only 14.7% of your time on writing recording producing and performing your music, and 0.3%-0.0%  of your time cultivating your musicianship/and craft.  The pressures of the viral music internet scene are nearly insurmountable and the chance to develop vocal knowledge and health--a long term process--falls by the wayside for \"fifteen minutes of fame\" that they try to stretch into a career.\n\nI digress, I will save my vocal expertise for another post.\n\nI agree with her that the modern music industry goes with formula and rarely takes on people trying to stretch the pop formula, which I would actually argue Jack Garratt attempts to do in some of his songs.  I would also allow the rest of her harsh article because she is entitled to her own tastes and opinions.  What I take issue on with this lady, however, is her statement about standing the test of time, and whether it could be bashed out in the studio in a day.   \n\nFirst off, there are some crappy pop songs that are not on the Indy scene that could be bashed out in a day.  Those songs are utter crap and I would dismiss Jack Garratt's music entirely if it fit that description.  His lyrics, while a tad unfocused because he is a millennial in a crazy world does have enough thought in it that requires some contemplation and time to feel out.  The melodies,  phrasing, and lyrics are nuanced  enough to demonstrate an interest in capturing a moment, and his production obviously takes a lot of time to map out orchestrate and mix.  But this \"test of time\" shit?!\n\nWhat does that even mean to stand the test of time?  Will someone like the melody in the future?  Will they remember it?  Does the content have mystical relevance that can transcend generational differences?  Is that even the function of good music?\n\nI like a good pop song.  Michael Jackson and Stevie Wonder are two of my greatest heroes.  However I like innvoative music to challenge my perceptions, or exciting yet predictable music to get sweaty dancing to, or brainwave entrainment and hertz precision music to alter my state into one of tranquility or alertness or meditation.\n\nDoes a flower stand the test of time?  Does its existence have relevance or profound beauty if no one ever sees it?\n\nDo people only hum beautifully orchestrated melodies, or just what merely gets lodged in their head?  Nothing stands the test of time if it isn't continually hyped and remastered.  Lyrics lose their relevance after being highly relevant for three generations even.  Thoughts are fleeting.  Beyond that, a beautiful lyric from Pink Floyd will be just as confounding and confusing a century from now as the entirety of Shakespeare's work, because even prose has context.  I happen to hum Jack Garratt's good song choruses when I step away if I haven't shifted to other music.\n\nNot too long ago I put out an album aiming to be pop-accessible while innovative and unconventional at the same time.  I thought it was really successful and I love every minute of it, but I did learn a thing or two.  The biggest lesson is: people remember and hum a three second kitsch in a song more than the crafted verse or chorus.  Kitsch and simplicity is what gets lodged in the brain.  I experimented with putting a \"whoa-oh-oh\" in a song, for example, and that is what people get stuck on and sing the rest of the day after listening.  Stevie Wonder, a man who wrote one of the largest volume of hits in anyone's career, wrote two of my favorite songs that are nearly impossible to sing after you walk away and have a cup of tea.  I am a professional musician and I had to practice to be able to successfully hum Stevie's \"Looking For Another Pure Love\" walking down the street a cappella, and from memory.  \n\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cY2fz5RBgvQ  \n\nand likewise trying to sing his hit \"I Can't Help It\" made popular by Michael Jackson \n\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QnhWML43NI8 \n\nClearly, good music isn't meant to be committed to memory to be of quality and beauty.  Plus you can only have so many songs like Madonna's \"Material Girl\" that are both simple and catchy without getting extremely redundant.  So what is music meant to do?  In answer, the great Buddha in true form would silently lift and point to a flower without a word.\n\nPeople's music didn't get critiqued even right after hitting the charts in the olden days, and not only that, their music had to be hyped for a long time with repeated radio play before they were big enough to fill a major venue.  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Music composition is a birthing process and some labors or quick, or sometimes complications arise and the labor lasts for days ,or the baby comes out late or premature.  Is the baby any less of a wonder based on its birthing time?\n\nPerhaps the true and unrealized purpose of a critic is to help make babies more awesome by offering constructive criticism, and acknowledging that the music industry is exposing premature artists because of current technology.  People like seeing imperfect products or artistry in process, as youtube attests.  If music critics have any worth, they should help these musicians gaining attention in their process rather than calling them shit when there is SOMETHING there.  When there is zero potential and the music has no redeemable qualities, by all means call it shit because maybe someone needs to tell them to make music a private hobby, but Jack Garratt isn't THAT shitty by any stretch of the imagination.  I advise music critics to make their articles worth reading by being thoughtful rather than dismissive.  I agree David Bowie was a great musician, but no one was dangling Rachmaninoff, or George Gershwin over his head when he was developing and performing his work, or calling him an inferior knock-off of Miles Davis Which is how similar Bowie's psychedelic rock music is to Garratt's Neo Soul Pop.  Constructive criticism is really taken to heart by critiqued musicians, (especially when they are young/new) so make those words count....don't just make the \"word count\" of your editors.\n\nAnd that's all I have to say about that.",
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bodyIt certainly is a heavy one! While i realize that social media is a spectacular platform, for raising some of the still very real injustices into the forefront, one has to really ask oneself if things aren't really better off now than before. I specifically only know one man who is obviously just a racist pig while in my childhood they seemed to be everywhere! And whether or not that is a by-product of society evolving away from such prejudice organically, or by force by those who are playing a Marxist game of identity politics. I'm guessing the prior. All these new laws and rules to live by are a cover-up to re-kindle the oppressed vs. the oppressors once again. Of course leaving out the real oppressors and merely dressing up a new face to take the blame. There isn't an IRA. There isn't a KKK or a fascist dictatorship left on the planet big enough to fill the void to create chaos to interrupt what is left of the ideals of freedom the constitution spoke of. Hence bad whitey! And while I understand your abstraction and claim that white society is a myth, many still do not. They are being fed this trash in order to continue to divide and conquer. Something i think we both agree, call it "old money or a Marxist conspiracy, the same player are at the helm. Those who would benefit from a more authoritarian world society are the same ones that would be running it. These aren't politicians of course, but "old money" world interests. The Rothschild's being a prime example. CAn't wait for your future posts!
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bodyI appreciate your comment. I feel like I can only address most of the things you brought up in the series of posts that will come out over time on this topic. It would be very difficult in a comment. What I do want to point out is that my main point in this article is that there is no such thing as "White Society." White society is a myth. We have a financially and militarily dominant society that was spawned from European Imperialism, particularly the British. In Europe, there was a lot of divisiveness, first by wealth, then by nationality, then by religion, and then by families. The Scottish resent the British, the Irish are divided by religion, the wealthy families like the Rothschilds manipulated all sides to achieve domination, the Nazis hated the Jews, the French dislike everybody, the royals were despised by the people, etc. etc. When you refer to "White Society" You are talking about **Old Money** born out of war and deception over thousands of years, and the Old Money that has dominated the US history books is primarily British or other European derivation . When that old money was threatened by social uprisings you first had the Revolutionary war, and after that was seemingly settled and the old money bought its way back into dominance over the US, you had the social uprisings that I spoke of, which were combated by **manipulating specifically the European-American indentured servants into believing they had something in common with their oppressors** --that they share a "race." They then created the myth that one "race" was "civilized" and the other was not, and then the notion that a race could be "superior" to the other. We know this is BS. For example, dark skin is biologically preferable than my pasty skin because it is less susceptible to skin cancer and sun burns. "Superiority" was really domination, domination was war and oppression of people who weren't fighting in the first place (Imperialism), and slavery was not voluntary. In fact the Roman Empire was built on slavery of so-called "white" people, which allowed for the European "Old Money" to fall into the hands it fell into. **Old Money** is the*antithesis* of the "American Dream" and all that the constitution and the Declaration of Independence stood for--even Capitalism has been destroyed by old money. You mentioned Us and Them referring to oppressed groups in their current forms/organizations, but it was the oppressor that killed brotherhood, not the oppressed. Their "us" is reactionary to being placed into a "them" category they didn't ask for. They are fighting not for socialism (a whole other conversation), but for basic freedoms. And the "media masters" are not fueling the visibility of social injustice, it is *social* media, *individuals* saying "WE ARE HURTING" and sharing their stories with the world. Social injustice is not unique to the US, there is social injustice rampant in asian societies, middle eastern societies, near eastern societies, and latin american societies as well. Light skinned men do especially have to bear the responsibility of compassionate understanding and humble acknowledgement of a troubled history, and the financial advantages and opportunities that came for light skinned people to get a stronghold in society while dark skinned people were hiding for their lives from the KKK mobs. It is not a marxist conspiracy, it is a matter of establishing and protecting basic human rights and freedoms for all people so fascism doesn't rear its ugly head again and put us all back into slavery like in Roman and Babylonian times. Ask any historical Emperor who they thought the superior race was... Military might is all that current social dynamics are based on [...and the hidden financial warfare of Old Money] Thanks for engaging in the conversation--it's a heavy one!
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      "body": "I appreciate your comment.  I feel like I can only address most of the things you brought up in the series of posts that will come out over time on this topic.  It would be very difficult in a comment.  What I do want to point out is that my main point in this article is that there is no such thing as \"White Society.\"  White society is a myth.  We have a financially and militarily dominant society that was spawned from European Imperialism, particularly the British.  In Europe, there was a lot of divisiveness, first by wealth, then by nationality, then by religion, and then by families.  The Scottish resent the British, the Irish are divided by religion, the wealthy families like the Rothschilds manipulated all sides to achieve domination, the Nazis hated the Jews, the French dislike everybody, the royals were despised by the people, etc. etc.  When you refer to \"White Society\"  You are talking about **Old Money** born out of war and deception over thousands of years, and the Old Money that has dominated the US history books is primarily British or other European derivation .  When that old money was threatened by social uprisings you first had the Revolutionary war, and after that was seemingly settled and the old money bought its way back into dominance over the US, you had the social uprisings that I spoke of, which were combated by \n\n**manipulating specifically the European-American indentured servants into believing they had something in common with their oppressors**\n\n--that they share a \"race.\"  They then created the myth that one \"race\" was \"civilized\" and the other was not, and then the notion that a race could be \"superior\" to the other.  We know this is BS.  For example, dark skin is biologically preferable than my pasty skin because it is less susceptible to skin cancer and sun burns.  \"Superiority\" was really domination, domination was war and oppression of people who weren't fighting in the first place (Imperialism), and slavery was not voluntary.  In fact the Roman Empire was built on slavery of so-called \"white\" people, which allowed for the European \"Old Money\" to fall into the hands it fell into.  **Old Money** is the*antithesis* of the \"American Dream\" and all that the constitution and the Declaration of Independence stood for--even Capitalism has been destroyed by old money.\n\nYou mentioned Us and Them referring to oppressed groups in their current forms/organizations, but it was the oppressor that killed brotherhood, not the oppressed.  Their \"us\" is reactionary to being placed into a \"them\" category they didn't ask for.  They are fighting not for socialism (a whole other conversation), but for basic freedoms.  And the \"media masters\" are not fueling the visibility of social injustice, it is *social* media, *individuals* saying \"WE ARE HURTING\" and sharing their stories with the world. \n\nSocial injustice is not unique to the US, there is social injustice rampant in asian societies, middle eastern societies, near eastern societies, and latin american societies as well.  Light skinned men do especially have to bear the responsibility of compassionate understanding and humble acknowledgement of a troubled history, and the financial advantages and opportunities that came for light skinned people to get a stronghold in society while dark skinned people were hiding for their lives from the KKK mobs.  It is not a marxist conspiracy, it is a matter of establishing and protecting basic human rights and freedoms for all people so fascism doesn't rear its ugly head again and put us all back into slavery like in Roman and Babylonian times.  \n\nAsk any historical Emperor who they thought the superior race was...   Military might is all that current social dynamics are based on [...and the hidden financial warfare of Old Money]\n\nThanks for engaging in the conversation--it's a heavy one!",
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bodyInteresting read. I'm not really sure where to start but I think here is good. "But they created us and Them." This is still very true but not in the way you might think. Today with groups like LGBTQ, Black Lives Matter, Antifa are all groups created by a different, but still privileged social class. Them being the masters of media of course. We are led to believe that social injustice in every form is rampant among white society. Racism doesn not exist unless you are white and male. What is actually being achieved is a off-shoot of cultural marxism. The Russians know a little bit about this if you've ever read "the Goulag Archepelogo." (Sorry if my spelling is wrong, the spell-check seems a bit off to me. ;) The concessions that these "oppressed" groups have made in just the last 10 years is astonishing. We now have the government making laws in their favor. (Taking closer steps to a communist government). To accomplish this you need all people of different races, beliefs, sexual-orientation to believe that they are more oppressed than ever. While the scapegoat is different this time, the technique is still the same. White men will bear the brunt of the punishment, much like wealthy landowners (farmers were considered oligarchs in the communist takeover of Russia) in Northern Ukraine did during Stalin's regime. The media is the lap-dog responsible for making it seem like its "worse than ever!!" Of course this isn't true if you ask most American's that can get up from the TV once in awhile. All this business about "white privilege," might of been true, up until the last 15-20 years or so but there is still a very anemic number of neo-nazi's aside from Richard Spencer and a few hundred red-necks. I mean really they are pathetic. Keep in mind these groups were enormous back in the 30-60's, but have been plummeting and are still very small today. I'll wait for your reply before carrying on but i do enjoy this topic. Good post!
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      "body": "Interesting read.  I'm not really sure where to start but I think here is good.\n\"But they created us and Them.\"  This is still very true but not in the way you might think.  Today with groups like LGBTQ, Black Lives Matter, Antifa are all groups created by a different, but still privileged social class.  Them being the \nmasters of media of course.  We are led to believe that social injustice in every form is rampant among white society.  Racism doesn not exist unless you are white and male.  What is actually being achieved is a off-shoot of cultural marxism.  The Russians know a little bit about this if you've ever read \"the Goulag Archepelogo.\"  (Sorry if my spelling is wrong, the spell-check seems a bit off to me. ;)  The concessions that these \"oppressed\" groups have made in just the last 10 years is astonishing.  We now have the government making laws in their favor.  (Taking closer steps to a communist government).   To accomplish this you need all people of different races, beliefs, sexual-orientation to believe that they are more oppressed than ever.  While the scapegoat is different this time, the technique is still the same.  White men will bear the brunt of the punishment, much like wealthy landowners (farmers were considered oligarchs in the communist takeover of Russia) in Northern Ukraine did during Stalin's regime.  The media is the lap-dog responsible for making it seem like its \"worse than ever!!\"  Of course this isn't true if you ask most American's that can get up from the TV once in awhile.  All this business about \"white privilege,\" might of been true, up until the last 15-20 years or so but there is still a very anemic number of neo-nazi's aside from Richard Spencer and a few hundred red-necks.  I mean really they are pathetic.  Keep in mind these groups were enormous back in the 30-60's, but have been plummeting and are still very small today.  I'll wait for your reply before carrying on but i do enjoy this topic.  Good post!",
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2017/07/14 01:57:39
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titleAn Odd Perspective on Social Dynamics
body![divide.jpg](https://steemitimages.com/DQmZRBRhWHZYLCUJfiqajKX3TkMHucjtvozdwQVaXJspZho/divide.jpg) There is no question that right now we are living out the reverberations of a dark history. Thousands of years of war, abuse and oppression has to be addressed and integrated at some point in time, and Now seems to be that time. The internet is abuzz with threads on privilege. White supremacy is having a bizarre comeback. Black Lives Matter is desperately trying to bring everyone's attention to perpetual injustice and police brutality/murder. This doesn't even begin to touch upon the many other social dynamics being worked out like LGBTQ rights, environmental responsibility, "immigration" rights (we are all immigrants here), and ownership in the wake of stolen land. 'Endless' is the word that comes to mind. I'm going to touch upon all this from as compassionate a perspective as I can muster without mincing words. The perspective I have is "odd" because while I have the camouflage of a light skin tone, I have a genetic thread of persecution that comes from my Jewish Heritage, and though I have yet to be threatened daily like people with dark skin, some "alt-right" lost souls are asking questions as absurd as "but are Jews really even people?" One thing is for certain, we are all in this together. I will probably write multiple posts on these topics in stages, but I feel we need to have a chat about "whiteness" first. What is it? From my knowledge "Whiteness" was an invention in the early days of US history. I was reading in a book who's exact title I forget but I believe was "Black Liberation and Socialism" that in the time of slaves, freed slaves, indentured servants and such there was no skin tone bias. Socialism was on the rise, and freed slaves and indentured servants were rallying together against the wealthy plantation owners. If you remember, indentured servants were people of European descent that lived in deep poverty. As the wealthy saw their system of oppression and financial slavery being threatened by the coming together of all oppressed people, they needed to divide and conquer. They created an "us and them" that wasn't there before by telling the European indentured servants that "You are white, and we are white, why are you trusting those black people?" They obviously weren't calling them "black people" yet, but you can get the point. "Whiteness" was born. The wealthy started to systematically dehumanize people of color in a sick and twisted history I should not need to delve into here. Slavery was still a thing, but freed slaves were treated just the same as poor people who were never officially slaves up to that point. There were even prominent freed former African slaves in governmental and military positions. Once socialism started to threaten the hidden form of mental, social and financial slavery the rich had created with their systems, they needed to harness fear for their purposes. Whiteness, begot Blackness, both newly invented in the early years of the US. Public racism and oppression flourished until the 1960s, which wasn't that long ago, but integration and assimilation was never anything more than superficial. The racism and oppression became subtle to well-meaning people of this country to the point that they could not even see how institutionalized the oppression of their darker-skinned neighbors had become. Now, with social media connecting us all together, it is all in plain sight and on the table that the horrific consequences of "Whiteness" have not gone away and are looking worse than ever. I was recently reading a really dense manifesto about Whiteness having no place in Black Liberation http://racebaitr.com/2016/03/31/white-people-no-place-black-liberation/# It was a challenging read, and I must admit that I was reading several articles at the same time and finished none of them, but what I took away from the first half of it was that "Whiteness" itself is what needs to be abolished. "Blackness" is a reaction to "Whiteness" self-perpetuating itself through ignorance including well meaning people that benefit from "white privilege" without even understanding it. #blacklivesmatter movement is trying to make people understand it, and many people are triggered by this because they didn't realize the extent of their subtle involvement. I hate "Whiteness" and was deeply triggered during my process of understanding it because somehow I was being lumped into the same group as my oppressors. Nazis and I are both considered white, and "alt-right-ers" who question if I am a person in the first place, are also considered white. And why is it a privilege to be considered white if I am being associated with those who wish for my death or banishment? It is not an honor by any stretch of the imagination. I have been blessed in this lifetime and I want nothing more than for all people to have the freedom, safety and opportunity to live a blessed and happy life as well. We can create this together, but learning how to address and integrate historical iniquities is far from over. Maybe if we can shatter "Whiteness" with the light of the magnifying glass, divisive labels will go away and we will all become beautiful unique brothers and sisters embodying the spectrum of light and life. We all need to do what we can to stand out and NOT blend in--ever, and stand up for justice and compassion with courage at EVERY opportunity.
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      "body": "![divide.jpg](https://steemitimages.com/DQmZRBRhWHZYLCUJfiqajKX3TkMHucjtvozdwQVaXJspZho/divide.jpg)\nThere is no question that right now we are living out the reverberations of a dark history.  Thousands of years of war, abuse and oppression has to be addressed and integrated at some point in time, and Now seems to be that time.  The internet is abuzz with threads on privilege.  White supremacy is having a bizarre comeback. Black Lives Matter is desperately trying to bring everyone's attention to perpetual injustice and police brutality/murder.  This doesn't even begin to touch upon the many other social dynamics being worked out like LGBTQ rights, environmental responsibility, \"immigration\" rights (we are all immigrants here), and ownership in the wake of stolen land.  'Endless' is the word that comes to mind. \n\nI'm going to touch upon all this from as compassionate a perspective as I can muster without mincing words.  The perspective I have is \"odd\" because while I have the camouflage of a light skin tone, I have a genetic thread of persecution that comes from my Jewish Heritage, and though I have yet to be threatened daily like people with dark skin, some \"alt-right\" lost souls are asking questions as absurd as \"but are Jews really even people?\"  One thing is for certain, we are all in this together.\n\nI will probably write multiple posts on these topics in stages, but I feel we need to have a chat about \"whiteness\" first.  What is it?\n\nFrom my knowledge \"Whiteness\" was an invention in the early days of US  history.  I was reading in a book who's exact title I forget but I believe was \"Black Liberation and Socialism\" that in the time of slaves, freed slaves, indentured servants and such there was no skin tone bias.  Socialism was on the rise, and freed slaves and indentured servants were rallying together against the wealthy plantation owners.  If you remember, indentured servants were  people of European descent that lived in deep poverty.  As the wealthy saw their system of oppression and financial slavery being threatened by the coming together of all oppressed people, they needed to divide and conquer.  They created an \"us and them\" that wasn't there before by telling the European indentured servants that \"You are white, and we are white, why are you trusting those black people?\" They obviously weren't calling them \"black people\" yet, but you can get the point.  \"Whiteness\" was born.  The wealthy started to systematically dehumanize people of color in a sick and twisted history I should not need to delve into here.  Slavery was still a thing, but freed slaves were treated just the same as poor people who were never officially slaves up to that point.  There were even prominent freed former African slaves in governmental and military positions.  Once socialism started to threaten the hidden form of mental, social and financial slavery the rich had created with their systems, they needed to harness fear for their purposes.\n\nWhiteness, begot Blackness, both newly invented in the early years of the US.  Public racism and oppression flourished until the 1960s, which wasn't that long ago, but integration and assimilation was never anything more than superficial.  The racism and oppression became subtle to  well-meaning people of this country to the point that they could not even see how institutionalized the oppression of their darker-skinned neighbors had become.  Now, with social media connecting us all together, it is all in plain sight and on the table that the horrific consequences of \"Whiteness\" have not gone away and are looking worse than ever.\n\nI was recently reading a really dense manifesto about Whiteness having no place in  Black Liberation http://racebaitr.com/2016/03/31/white-people-no-place-black-liberation/#   It was a challenging read, and I must admit that I was reading several articles at the same time and finished none of them, but what I took away from the first half of it was that \"Whiteness\" itself is what needs to be abolished.  \"Blackness\" is a reaction to \"Whiteness\" self-perpetuating  itself through ignorance including well meaning people that benefit from \"white privilege\" without even understanding it.  #blacklivesmatter movement is trying to make people understand it, and many people are triggered by this because they didn't realize the extent of their subtle involvement.  \n\nI hate \"Whiteness\" and was deeply triggered during my process of understanding it because somehow I was being lumped into the same group as my oppressors.  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