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      "body": "#1 “ONE” not triune:  \"WHO\" it was (what person) that came \"IN THE FLESH\", IS THE DETERMINING FACTOR IN WHAT IT MEANS TO BE “ANT-CHRIST”! Even Islam claims Jesus was the Jewish messiah/Christ who was to come in the flesh) they all deny \"WHO\" it was (what person) that came (to be the Christ) in the flesh!?!.......To deny the father is to deny the son because they are one and the same person that came in the flesh! https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/part-6-anti-christ-where-everywhere-allen-daves?trk=mp-reader-card  \n\nTHE ANTI CHRIST....WHERE? WHERE?....EVERYWHERE!!! …..IT\"S YOU O TRINITARIAN!\n\n\nNo the son & father are the same person not just like two different persons working together even as \"one flesh\" ....The \"oneness\" between Christ and the father is not comparable to a man & his wife, for only a fool would say \"When you have seen me you have seen my wife, how sayest thou then, Shew us your wife?\" Notice they asked to see THE FATHER and the response was Jn 14:9 ..“HAVE I BEEN SO LONG time with you, and yet hast THOU NOT KNOW ME, Philip.....Now image some fool trying to claim that statement if you asked to see his wife!?!!? You want to see the FATHER but have I been with you but you don’t know me!?!?! https://www.scribd.com/doc/305367608/The-Trinity-Heresy\n\n\n\n\nThe whole point to Gal 3:20.a mediator is NOT A MEDIATOR OF ONE, (HEIS) but GOD IS ONE. (HEIS) again, point blank, identifies the number of persons of God! The “but” points out the contrast between multiple persons in a mediation party v the “one” of God. God is not like a mediation party with multiple different persons. …..\"the express image of his person\" ( the person of God; singular not plural).Any attempt to lay claim otherwise is willful ignorance and delusional nonsense https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/part-1-echadechadmy-godgod-echad-allen-daves?trk=mp-reader-card \n……Mark 12:28…Which is the first commandment of all? 29. …Hear, O Israel; THE LORD OUR GOD IS ONE LORD: 30. And ………..this is the first commandment….. 31. And the second is…..\nJESUS IS GOD AND IS THE FULLFILMENT OF ALL THE LAW AND PROPHETS SO IF YOU CAN’T GET THIS “FIRST OF ALL COMMANDMENTS” RIGHT, ALL THE REST OF YOUR “FAITH” AND PREACHING ON SIN IS MOOT  BECAUSE AS SUCH YOU WOULD  JUST BE LIVING OUT  PROV 26:12\n\nTRINITARIANS CONFESS JESUS /THEY ARE NOT POLYTHEIST BUT ARE MONOTHEIST LIKE A LIAR & THIEF WHO \"CONFESS\" THEY DO NOT LIE OR STEAL The simple fact is that just because you confess or deny that you are in an adulterous relationship and denounce all forms of adultery has nothing to do with whether or not it is in fact adulterous! .. …A rose by any other name is still just a rose AND calling it a water lily does not change the definition of what a water Lilly or a rose is either!...No, Trinitarians confess & preach literally  …”ANOTHER JESUS” 2 Cor 11:4\n\nhttps://www.linkedin.com/pulse/part-2-pgs-91-101-chapter-eight-lets-talk-us-allen-daves?trk=mp-reader-card \n \n- Like a thief in your house caught stealing your things insisting he was not there stealing “I CONFESS I am NOT stealing”. You just do not “properly understand” what he is doing/saying. Further, since you never had a “proper understanding” of what he is doing/saying you have no business accusing him since you do not even know what you are talking about in the first place. It is with and in your own ignorance that you base your “false accusations” & “ad homonym attacks” against him. No no I'm not lying im just giving you a alternate universe version of the events..... Ridiculous of course it is. Ridiculous of course it is ......2Thess 2:11; Titus 1:16; 2Tim 3:5; \n \n- A Favorite tool for pathological liars is to use incongruent definitions or create oxymorons out of synonyms such as \"a person\" and \"a being\" so as to claim that your god is THREE DIFFERENT PERSONS but ONLY ONE BEING: Which is (1) no different then trying to claim that \"THREE DIFFERENT CARS\" is \"THE ONE VEHICLE\" (2) blatant demonstration of the dishonesty & sorcery these children of hell will employ with “a strait face” (which is in part what it means to be a pathological liar)\n……but, ah i remember how this game is played... \"God is three in one\" (or 1in 3 or 3in one et al) should have given you a hint, harking back to Satan in The garden...God said you will die...Satan comes along and states no you will be more WISE......today .God said He is one; but Satan's children come along and say no three is more WISE and humble in the face of God’s grandeur only “a mystery” that can be understood “in faith”. God uses head and right arm to explain the  distinctions between father and son.. However, the Trinitarian heretics say to the effect:  \"NO, that is just a figure of speech, or that is not what God really means. What God is really saying is that God is three different persons\". Fools, hypocrites and blind guides, God said he was One and by your traditions and vain imaginations have taken the words of God and made them of no effect, refashioning God into your image!\n\nYou can download the complete FREE book from\nhttps://www.scribd.com/doc/305367608/The-Trinity-Heresy\nOR\nhttps://www.academia.edu/23463667/THE_TRINITY_HERESY \n\n www.linkedin.com/hp/update/6203063305603506176\n\n\n\n\n\n\n#2 SECOND COMING Thou Fool! “I come quickly” so \"Hold fast\ntill i come\"... NOT ...“in another 2000 yrs I might be coming soon any time now, so hold fast”!?! ...those that deny the second coming of Christ in the war of AD70 are practicing a damnable heresy in denying the lord that bought them ( 2Peter 2:1-2 ;2Tim 4:8)… Mat 7:23..\"I NEVER KNEW YOU\" .....Mat 10:33. But whosoever shall deny me before men........sound familiar?…. If I said I am coming to your house in this generation when these things happen but no one knows the day or hour what fool would think I might be coming in 2000 years latter!?!? ..2 Tim 4: 4. And\nthey shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be TURNED UNTO FABLES.\n2Thess 2: 11. And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: 12. That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.\n\n\nDOWNLOAD FREE THE ENTIRE 480PG BOOK AT SEVERAL LOCATIONS\nhttps://www.scribd.com/doc/305366745/Revelation-the-First-Gospel-of-the-Kingdom \n\nor\n\n\nhttps://www.academia.edu/23464127/REVELATION_THE_FIRST_GOSPEL_OF_THE_KINGDOM\n\n\n#3 There is a sharp contrast between THREE groups :\n\n(1) \"PREDESTINED DAMNED\" who were NEVER written in the book of life ………..Rev 17: 8 WHOSE NAMES WERE NOT WRITTEN IN THE BOOK OF LIFE FROM THE FOUNDATION OF THE WORLD, …as contrasted …EPH 1: 4. 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      "body": "1Pet 3:21” even baptism doth also now save us “…\"whosoever shall call on THE NAME OF THE LORD shall be saved\".…….So WHAT \"NAME\" did you \"CALL UPON\"?...........1Jn 3:23. And THIS IS HIS COMMANDMENT, That we should BELIEVE ON THE NAME of his Son AND THAT NAME IS NOT THE LETTERS \"J-E-S-U-S\"!?!…BUT THAT NAME IS…… \n\nPs 138:2. …. and praise THY NAME ……. for thou hast magnified THY WORD ABOVE ALL THY NAME\n\nRev 19:13. .. and HIS NAME IS called THE WORD OF GOD……………………………\n\nSO:\n\n- If God placed His \"THE WORD\" ABOVE all of God's various NAMEs\n- and Jesus NAME (who is God in the flesh) IS called \"THE WORD\" \n\nThen it must follow that the MOST important name we should KNOW and CALL UPON is \"THE WORD\"; . Not the letters that spell the word but the sayings/ doctrine/commands…..…… It does NOT say  “thy word” (which we understand is what “Jesus”  refers to)  is given a name above other names because  here THY WORD is identified as the name that is placed above all other names. You cannot pronounce “the word” letter by letter that is why they called him “Jesus” but JESUS has a name which is the highest name that God has and it cannot be pronounced letter by letter !?! …. AT the name OF JESUS.....Jesus has a name that belongs to Jesus...just like the name OF GOD means a name that belongs to GOD but it is ridiculous to suggest that the letters G-O-D is that name...likewise it is just as ridiculous to suggest that the name OF JESUS is the letters J-E-S-U-S.  You cannot pronounce nor could your write out in the scriptures “the word” (all of God’s spoken creation/instructions/ law et al) letter by letter which is why the scriptures refer to “the name of Jesus” which is the same as saying “the name of God”…..but only a fool should think that God is that name!?!\nhttps://www.academia.edu/23846490/Thief_and_Cross_3D\n\nProv 30:4. Who hath ascended up into heaven, or descended? who hath gathered the wind in his fists? …… what is his name, and WHAT IS HIS SON'S NAME, if thou canst tell?\n\nIsaiah 52:1. .. 6. Therefore MY PEOPLE SHALL KNOW MY NAME: ...........\n\n...........What NAME do you \"KNOW\".?.....\n\n1Jn 2:3. And HEREBY WE DO KNOW that we KNOW HIM, if we KEEP HIS COMMANDMENTS./ Titus 1: 16. They profess that THEY KNOW God; but IN WORKS THEY DENY him…….\n.\nRev 3:8….. kept MY WORD, and hast not DENIED MY NAME;\n\nJn 17:6. I have MANIFESTED THY NAME .... and they have KEPT THY WORD.\n\n........................................4.  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These things have I written unto you that BELIEVE ON THE NAME of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may BELIEVE ON THE NAME of the Son of God.\n\n\nJn 20:31. But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life THROUGH HIS NAME.\n\n\nJohn 1:1. In the beginning was the Word, and THE WORD WAS WITH GOD, AND THE WORD WAS GOD\n\nEx 23:21….”for MY NAME is in him”……what is in him is THE WORD/ HIS LAW  et al  written on his heart/”being” and in his “mind” not a set of letters such as the tetragramaton !?! \n\nPhil 2:9. Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given HIM A NAME WHICH IS ABOVE EVERY NAME\n\nActs 4:12. (Acts 3:16). … for there is NONE OTHER NAME under heaven given among men, WHEREBY WE MUST BE SAVED\n\nJohn 1:1. 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Jehovah means self existent eternal one it is as much an adjective that describes what God's as it is used as a proper noun “My name is wonderful”,  what  fool would think that my proper name is “wonderful” ….Jesus is what the man (who was the word in the flesh) that was called “Jesus”  because only a fool would think that you could pronounce THE HIGHEST NAME OF GOD and or “the word” (all of God’s spoken creation/instructions/ law et al) letter by letter…. (ie Judges 13:18; 2Cor 12:4 but God’s name is not as great and or “unspeakable???)\n\n\n….. ALSO EXPLAINS:\n\nJn 14:13. And WHATSOEVER……. ye shall ask ……..IN MY NAME,……. 14. If ye shall ask any thing ……..IN MY NAME,…………. I will do it. 15. If ye love me, keep MY COMMANDMENTS.\n\n\nActs 2: 21. And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall CALL ON…….. 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And the second is…..\n\nIf you can’t get this “first of all commandments” right, all the rest of your “faith” is moot……\n\n(1)\tGod uses specific words that demand ONLY ONE PERSON\n(2)\tGod uses specific descriptions that demand ONLY ONE PERSON\n(3)\tGOD specifically uses what some call a heresy namely modalism to describe father and son (The very image made in His own image to define them!?)\n(4)\tJesus specifically claims to be the father and the father specifically claims to be the son et al   \n(5)\tMan is made in the image of God and it is that image that God specifically describes himself and father and son  a man can be a father and son but God can be his own son ….. because what makes and defines a father and what makes defines a son has NOTHING TO DO with how many different persons are present!?!?\n\nGod Only and specifically claims to be only ONE PERSON......but, ah i remember how this game is played... \"God is three in one\" (or 1in 3 or 3in one et al) should have given you a hint, harking back to Satan in The garden...God said you will die...Satan comes along and states no you will be more WISE......today .God said He is one; but Satan's children come along and say no three is more WISE and humble in the face of God’s grandeur only “a mystery” that can be understood “in faith”. God uses head and right arm to explain the  distinctions between father and son.. However, the Trinitarian heretics say to the effect:  \"NO, that is just a figure of speech, or that is not what God really means. What God is really saying is that God is three different persons\". Fools, hypocrites and blind guides, God said he was One and by your traditions and vain imaginations have taken the words of God and made them of no effect, refashioning God into your image! The worship of different persons who are each God with different degrees/amounts of god knowledge, god power and god authority that authorize and send each other around on different missions is the practice of polytheistic pagans who worship their gods, NOT Christians. Simply calling all of your different gods, “God” does not change the fact that you are worshiping multiple different god persons. Claiming that worship of three different persons is the worship of only one deity is not just a contradiction in scripture and terms but just as ridiculous as  taking a ford pickup truck and replacing the hood (and all other emblems) ornament(s) with a Mercedes-Benz emblem on it then trying to pass it off as a Mercedes sedan!?!\n\nWHO IS THE HOLY SPIRIT?  Pgs 72-81\n\nJohn 14:9.  Jesus saith unto him, HAVE I BEEN SO LONG TIME WITH YOU, AND YET HAST THOU NOT KNOWN ME, Philip? HE THAT HATH SEEN ME HATH SEEN THE FATHER; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father?......The \"oneness\" between Christ and the father is not comparable to a man and his wife, for only a fool would say \"When you have seen me you have seen my wife, how sayest thou then, Shew us your wife?\" \n\n.................. 10.  Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me?....  13 And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, THAT WILL I DO, THAT THE FATHER MAY BE GLORIFIED in the Son. 14.  If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I WILL DO IT.  …………..\n\nNOW WE GET TO THE HOLY SPIRIT:\n\n…………..17. Even THE SPIRIT OF TRUTH; (Jn 14:6 I AM the way, THE TRUTH,) whom the world cannot receive, .. for HE DEWLLETH WITH YOU, (present tense/standing next to them in the flesh) and SHALL BE IN YOU... (future tense “In them”)  18. I will not leave you comfortless: I WILL COME TO YOU (future tense “In them”) Note: The spirit of Christ is the sprit of God and the holy spirit that is why Christ said “I will come to you” (to comfort them, because Christ is the comforter).  The spirit was standing next to them in flesh... ....latter it would come to them to be inside of them (inside of their flesh as the spirit we are given).....that is why. he would send the spirit...... However, Jesus himself here makes the point that the same person who was the HOLY SPIRIT that would come was standing next to them but lets them know “I will come to you again to be Inside of you” The present condition was external to them but in the flesh dwelling with them but, the future condition would be internal to them .. Rom 8:9 When you “see” or “pray” to the father (in the name of the father covered further in Ch 7) you are “seeing” and praying to Jesus and visa versa and Jesus will be the one to “come” and answer because father and son are just different  parts/manifestations of the same person!?\n\nEph 4:4.  There is one body, and ONE SPIRIT, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling; 5.  ONE LORD, ONE FAITH, ONE BAPTISM, 6.  ONE GOD AND FATHER of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.\n\n1Peter 1:10.  Of which salvation THE PROPHETS have inquired and searched diligently, WHO PROPHESIED of the grace that should come unto you:11.  Searching what, or what manner of time THE SPIRIT OF CHRIST WHICH WAS IN THEM, when IT TESTIFIED beforehand the sufferings of Christ, and the glory that should follow……… \n\n2Peter 1:21.  For THE PROPHECY CAME not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as THEY WERE MOVED BY THE HOLY GHOST. \n\nCol 1:27.  … THIS MYSTERY among the Gentiles; WHICH IS CHRIST IN YOU, the hope of glory: ….\n\n\n  …… it is the fact that men not scriptures feel the need to come along and explain how one really means three. The root issue is not about God or the scriptures at all. The issue is about men's lack of faith in what God said about himself in the first place and then make their appeals to false humility and God's grandeur while denying the very name of the very God they say they love. (2Pter 2:1-3)\n\nMarcellus of Ancyra  (fourth-century AD)  said that the idea of the Godhead as three hypostases (hidden spiritual realities) came from Plato through the teachings of Valentinus, (c.100 - c.160) Valentinus taught that God is three hypostases and three prosopa (persons) each of the three persons being  1. the Father, 2. the Son and 3. the Holy Spirit: \n\n\"Now with the heresy of the Ariomaniacs, which has corrupted the Church of God ... These then teach three hypostases, just as Valentinus the heresiarch first invented in the book entitled by him 'On the Three Natures'. For he was the first to invent three hypostases and three persons of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit, and he is discovered to have filched this from Hermes and Plato.\"  Source: Marcellus, in Logan 2000:95/ AHB Logan: Marcellus of Ancyra (died c. 374AD) (Pseudo-Anthimus), On the Holy Church: Text, Translation and Commentary. Verses 8-9. Journal of Theological Studies, NS, Volume 51, Pt. 1, April 2000, p.95.\n\n“All things are three, and thrice is all: and let us use this number in the worship of the gods; for, as the Pythagoreans say, everything and all things are bounded by threes, for the end, the middle and the beginning have this number in everything, and these compose the number of the Trinity’ “ (Aristotle, Fourth Century B.C. quote taken from: Arthur Weigall, Paganism in Our Christianity, 1928, pp. 197-198)\n\nwww.scribd.com/user/249756770/Allen-Daves\n\nindependent.academia.edu/AllenDaves\n\n\nDOWNLOAD FREE THE ENTIRE BOOK\n\nYou can download the complete FREE book from\nhttps://www.scribd.com/doc/305367608/The-Trinity-Heresy\nOR \nhttps://www.academia.edu/23463667/THE_TRINITY_HERESY\nAlso \n\nhttps://steemit.com/@allendaves\nhttps://patreon.com/allendaves\nhttps://disqus.com/by/allendaves/discussions/\n\nhttps://plus.google.com/u/0/communities/116070494721076167682/stream/81058449-8875-40d6-927d-01da3475b0e0\n\n\nhttps://disqus.com/home/channel/thetrinityheresy/\n\nplus.google.com/105723856121856218384\n\nseen.life/21904969allen-daves/profile\n\nwww.linkedin.com/in/allen-daves-62ab3524\n\nas well here https://www.facebook.com/groups/450559901774298/\n\nthetrinityheresy.wordpress.com/\n\nseen.life/groups/viewgroup/3284-the-trinity-heresy\n\nplus.google.com/communities/116070494721076167682\n\nthetrinityheresy.wordpress.com/\n\nthetrinityheresy.blogspot.com/p/blog-page.html\n\nwww.linkedin.com/groups/7062167\t\n\nhttp://mosttruechristiansgotohell.blogspot.com/\nhttp://thiefandthecross.blogspot.com/  \nhttp://whatgospelisthis.blogspot.com/ \nhttp://mechanicalinstrumentsinworship.blogspot.com/ \nhttp://thetrinityheresy.blogspot.com/p/blog-page.html\n\n\nhttps://revelationthefirstgospelofthekingdom.wordpress.com/",
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That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.\n\nDOWNLOAD FREE THE ENTRIE 480PG BOOK AT SEVERAL LOCATIONS \n\n\nhttps://www.scribd.com/doc/305366745/Revelation-the-First-Gospel-of-the-Kingdom \n\nor\n\n\nhttps://www.academia.edu/23464127/REVELATION_THE_FIRST_GOSPEL_OF_THE_KINGDOM \n\nGog and Magog were destroyed out of the land and Kingdom of God in the war of AD70 it was ROME/ gentile nations(when the physical was destroyed only the spiritual remained)......and today ROME (Gog/Magog headed by USA) the gentile nations are encompassing the camp of the saints (who are God's people spiritual jews) the \"jewish nation\" today has NOTHING to do with anything except a distraction from this war against God's spiritual people the saints ( THE CHRISTIANS not trinitarians) ..\n\nGal 1: 8. But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.\n\nThe book of Revelation offers us an interesting Theological dilemma. It states Rev 22:16. I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. Revelation also states it is “the true sayings” of Jesus and that it is “the testimony of Christ”. If this is not “the gospel of Jesus Christ” then what is it and should we consider it accursed testimony of an angel? If it is not to be considered accursed, then it cannot be some other gospel message then what was already given previously. However, this is the conundrum, for if this is the gospel message, then why do so few understand it? There is a possibility which few consider but is the overall thesis of this apology. The reason people don’t understand revelation is because they never understood what the gospel message was in the first place! In that case, where does that put those who claim it is not essential for salvation? Do you not find it quite curious that the most \"Personally\" given NT book By Jesus himself, is the least understood and given the least importance for Salvation in Christendom?....There are numerous preachers and bible exegetes but as Paul said “… I bear them record that they have a zeal of God, but not according to knowledge” . Most who profess the name of Christ are feeding on doctrines of devils and the ignorant.. There are, without question, many “qualified” teachers and scholars with many years of “dedication” and “solid education”. However, teachers, no matter how well lettered or numbered in degrees; if obtained from others; who are just as equally ignorant in such matters, are just “ blind leaders of the blind. 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They only being (NOT END) in a certain hour & on a certain 24 hour day ....\"SUN OF RIGHTEOUSNESS to arise\".....NOT..\"come & get (your new resurrected body) it while it is still hot, only 24 hours of solar power left\"!?!.........The resurrection and the judgment for all of mankind all began with the war of AD70 for everyone and we have been living in that day of the Lord \"the judgment\" now for almost 2000 years. 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      "body": "THE MYTH :\nMat 5:22 prevents the use of the word “fool” with a special condemnation….. “whatever you say just don’t say fool to anyone; you will go to hell for using that word”\nWhere did this Idea really come from?\nWhy, what is the wicked purpose behind it?\n\n\nMat 5:22.  But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but WHOSOEVER shall say, THOU  FOOL, shall be in danger of hell fire.\n\nJESUS\n\nMat 23:17.  YE FOOLS and blind: for whether is greater, the gold, or the temple that sanctifieth the gold?.... 19.  YE FOOLS and blind:…..\n\nLk 11:40.  YE FOOLS, did not he that made that which is without make that which is within also?.  ……………. \nLk 24:25.  Then he said unto them, O FOOLS, and slow of heart to believe all that the prophets have spoken:\n\nPAUL\n1Cor 15:35.  But some man will say, How are the dead raised up? and with what body do they come?  36.  THOU  FOOL, that which thou sowest is not quickened, except it die:\n\n\nEph 5:15.  See then that ye walk circumspectly, not as FOOLS, but as wise,\nRoms 1:22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became FOOLS,\n\n\nThis is not suggesting that everyone who has ever held or bought into this myth is working for the devil, but someone (s) created this myth and many wicked preachers and other teachers are out promoting this false idea and narrative that the word fool is special and should be avoided even trying to use it as a metric AGAIST the ones who are preaching the truth…They will be held to a stricter judgment especially for those who are in fact the devils minions\n\nOPTION 1\n-Jesus is a “DO AS I SAY NOT AS I DO” preacher…..but perhaps you think he gets a pass because he is God and God can do whatever he wants as the excuse for why Jesus did not live up to his own teaching ?!?\n\n-The Apostle Paul is burning in hell as a result of not living up to this teaching of Christ..or he gets a free pass because he was an apostle so he did not have to live up to that teaching of Christ either ?!?! (1Cor 4:6; Paul wrote Col 4:6, was his without salt?!)\n\nOPTION 2\nYOU COMPLETELY MISSED (or do not care or outright lying) what Jesus said and taught in Mat 5:22   \n\n…If so, then we shall examine why that would be the case if true. \n\n\n“FUNNY” HOW THE ONLY THING PEOPLE READ IS ……. WHOSOEVER shall say, THOU  FOOL, shall be in danger of hell fire…  THIS IS CLALLED “SELCTIVE HEARING”/READING\n\n\nMat 5:22.  But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry WITH HIS BROTHER (#1) WITHOUT A CAUSE shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say (#2) TO HIS BROTHER, (Jn 1:11) Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but WHOSOEVER shall say, THOU  FOOL, shall be in danger of hell fire.\n\nFIRST: This is only directed at how brethren are to treat each other.  It is not about a “special unspeakable word” translated as “fool” that you should never call anyone. There are many fools in the world and the bible has a great deal to say about them! This verse has nothing to say about those who are not Christians (you cant try to convert the lost outside the church on the one hand and yet still claim they are brothers in the faith on the other)\n\nSECOND: The issue is “without cause” (not just any cause) many Pharisees looked down their nose at the common everyday brothers as plebian fools (The whole point to: James 2:1-4). They distained their brethren for no other reason then how great they were or how good they thought of themselves and or how of less value their common Jewish brothers were. FOOS?..YES!.....Jesus had a cause…Paul had a cause and when anyone preaches the plain truth and folks willfully and repeatedly reject it in favor of lies, false teachers and hypocrisy refusing to accept it, they too are cause and the very epitome of the word fool. \n\nPs 92:6.  A brutish man knoweth not; neither doth a fool understand this.\nPs 94:8. Understand, ye brutish among the people: and ye fools, when will ye be wise?\nProv 8:5.  O ye simple, understand wisdom: and, ye fools, be ye of an understanding heart\n\n\nOPTION 1\nTHIS IS FROM GOD\n\n-Using the word fool  even fools hypocrites and blind guides is how our perfect example, teacher who taught us to observe all things as he commanded ..to keep his sayings….This is how he taught and used words such as “fool”\n\n-This is how the apostles used and taught using that word. \n\n-This is how the rest of scriptures (presumably we teach from) use the word(s)…\n\n\nOPTION 2\nWHO IS THIS FROM??\nWhatever you do, whatever you say do not use and teach with the same words or methods Christ et al exemplified for us because to do so is hurtful, demeaning, judgmental and sinful.\nTHE DEVILS!!!\n\n\nWHY PROMOTE THAT IDEA, IT SEEMS ALMOST TRIVIAL??\n\nBecause the devil et al wants you to be as INEFECTIVE as possible which includes stirring up as few people as possible…. Don’t use that sword out of your mouth. That might offend. that might hurt..that might make too much noise and cause people to sit up and take note of the wild man screaming about doom damnation and destruction to come….no no don’t do that. Let them stay asleep, if you must preach the truth then only whisper …..Don’t go into battle with that blunt sword, now  go into battle and use this soft fluffy pillow instead, this is more loving toward those who have become dull of hearing, They will listen if you if only you used soft words and make your arguments with less rebuke. \n\n\nFALLACY # 2 it makes a difference because Paul uses a completely different “GREEK” word………. \n\nJESUS\nTHOU  FOOL, Strong's Ref. # 3474\n\nRomanized  moros\nPronounced mo-ros'\n\nprobably from the base of GSN3466; dull or stupid (as if shut up), i.e. heedless, (morally) blockhead, (apparently) absurd: \n\nPAUL\nTHOU  FOOL, Strong's Ref. # 878\n\nRomanized  aphron\nPronounced af'-rone\n\nfrom GSN0001 (as a negative particle) and GSN5424; properly, mindless, i.e. stupid, (by implication) ignorant, (specially) egotistic, (practically) rash, or (morally) unbelieving: \n\nKJV--fool(-ish), unwise.\n\n\nOk, So which “Greek” word did that preacher over there use when he used the word “fool”?!?!?\n\n(1)\tWhat difference does it make?!? You missed the context and the point to begin with…..\n(2)\tPaul stated some Greek words and No matter what you think those words mean the fact is that the Greek words that Paul used are translated into your English bibles VERBATIM   as “THOU FOOL”  or “YOU FOOL”…..(and it states it that way and or similar in more then one English translation) …Thus, no matter what anyone tries to point to so as to make a claim on the meaning of  the Greek word “aphron”  at the end of the day the fact is that for all the excuses and complaints  the English translations from all those translators spell out the Greek words that Paul used and translated them into English as “THOU FOOL” . So to claim that the use those same English words is somehow not what Paul did or said or preached and how wrong in error it is to call people \"fools\" words only proves the  absolute dishonesty that has taken hold of so many hypocrites. \n(3)\tFurther concerning many specific doctrines the scriptures verbatim state that those who do not understand are fools....so for all those folks who are so offended by the words \" you fools\" should know that the God who created you states verbatim that you fools (God calls you fools) do not understand which more often then should seems to apply to most folks ...Many if not most seem to be living out prov 26:12 and bragging about it (in their own “humble” self righteousness) while pointing to the use of the word fool as if it mattered at all..!?!  \n\nThe real reason these words bother so many is because consciously or unconsciously deep down they know of who these fools are………They will never be able to come to the knowledge of the true when they cannot first see and admit what they have become…….\n \n\n\nThe fact it takes this much effort to explain something so basic so simple  demonstrates the successful brainwashing program of the devil uses so as to create as many DUMB DOWN, INEFFECTUAL, COW-TOWED, SOFT PEDDLING PREACHERS AS POSSIBLE….If he can’t stop the preaching of the truth then try to get as few people as possible to pay any attention to them…..Don’t let them speak too loudly or with too much “force”; don’t hit them with the condemnation of blunt force truth! No, use a mushy pillow it is more “loving” and non judgmental…and as they go over the waterfall/cleft, they will never even know you had been on the shore trying to warn anyone but at least you did not use the word “fool”.\n\nPS ......Many actually appear to rest in Prov 26:12 and you should take note that although no specific name is given for this condition these folks are WORSE off then just a mere fool.........YOU FOOLS!",
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      "body": "The seven or eight  parts that you read were only the summary notes at the end of the ~155pg book...You can download the complete FREE book from\nhttps://www.scribd.com/doc/305367608/The-Trinity-Heresy\nOR \nhttps://www.academia.edu/23463667/THE_TRINITY_HERESY\n\n\nPs it matters not how anyone defines what a person is...God only specifically claims to be only one ..... .......Does  1ocr 15:36 offend you?..It should, it still applies to most to this very day....further God himself considers these men fools and states it just that way......they do not need a pillow across the theological head they need a brick wake up and judge not according to appearances or according to your human sensibilities  ....et al ad fin",
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      "body": "Whew!  I just finished all 8 of your most recent posts on _The Trinity Heresy_ in one sitting!\nI am super impressed and for the first time in many years may be experiencing a significant upgrade in my understanding of Jesus.  For that I thank you.\n\nIt almost didn't happen though.  I must admit that I found your writing style so off-putting, so offensive, so insulting, so unnecessarily accusatory and confrontational that I almost threw it aside (to my loss) many times in the past two hours.  It was only the grace of God, my intense interest in the subject matter, and the fact that you were masterfully making your case based solely on Scripture that caused me to persevere.\n\nYou might want to work on your bedside manner, doctor, if you expect to heal anyone.\nFor now, I will simply write it off to the intensity of your passion for your subject.\n\n**Allow me now to humbly attempt to return the favor, as iron sharpens iron.**\n\nConsider how Jesus spoke to Phillip when he said, \"Show us the Father.\"  As I recall, Jesus said something, \"Phillip you double minded, cherry picking, trinitarian hypocrite!  How dare you misunderstand Me.  You are hereby damned for all time!\"\n\nOh, wait, he didn't say that did He?  It was more like a gentle father rebuking a child for not thinking clearly, \"Philip, I have been with you all this time, and still you do not know Me? Anyone who has seen Me has seen the Father. How can you say, ‘Show us the Father’?\n\nWhat about the thief on the cross?  Did Jesus interrogate him about the fine points of his theological understanding of the relationship between the Father and the Son?  Um, no.  “Jesus, remember me when You come into Your kingdom!” And Jesus said to him, “Truly I tell you, today you will be with Me in Paradise.”  I wonder how many of your advanced concepts were in that new believer's mind at the time that promise was made.\n\nAnd of course there is Romans 14 and Paul's rebuke:  \"Accept the one whose faith is weak, **without quarreling over disputable matters.**\"   and \"Who are you to judge someone else's servant? To their own master, servants stand or fall. And they will stand, for the Lord is able to make them stand.\"\n\nAnyone who is acting like a good Berean and \"diligently searching the Scriptures to see whether these things are so\" is a loved and valuable servant of Christ and does not need to be rebuked with vitriol when they use a slightly improper metaphor to describe the mystery of God.\n\n**Misquoting Paul to drive home the point:**\nTherefore let us stop passing judgment on one another. Instead, make up your mind not to put any stumbling block or obstacle in the way of a brother or sister. ..Do not by your [harsh rhetoric] destroy someone for whom Christ died. Therefore do not let what you know is good be spoken of as evil. For the kingdom of God is not a matter of [theological metaphors], but of righteousness, peace and joy in the Holy Spirit, because anyone who serves Christ in this way is pleasing to God and receives human approval. Let us therefore make every effort to do _what leads to peace and to mutual edification_.\n\nAnd how did our Lord address Peter when he proclaimed Who He was?  Simon Peter answered, “You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.” Jesus replied, “Blessed are you, Simon son of Jonah! For this was not revealed to you by flesh and blood, but by My Father in heaven.  \n\nNope, I don't see Jesus rebuking Peter here for not correctly articulating that he was in fact the Father Himself wrapped in human flesh.  Instead, he affirmed the still limited understanding that Peter had just received.  \n\n**Returning to your substance of your arguments:**\n\nA couple days ago as a classic Methodist \"Trinitarian\", I posted this:  [Jesus is the God of the Old Testament](https://steemit.com/religion/@stan/jesus-is-the-god-of-the-old-testament)\n\nAt no time did my nominal Trinitarian working model of God prevent me from recognizing Who Jesus is.  As I read your \"Heresy\" series I kept looking for something I disagreed with.  Despite the volumes you wrote about it, your whole argument seemed to hinge on an objection to the meaning of the word \"Person\".\n\nIs a member of the Star Trek Borg collective a person?  Or is the hive mind the person and each instance of that mind one of its \"right arms\"?  The individuals seem to communicate with each other while simultaneously knowing each other's thoughts while offloading some of the thinking workload among the individual instances.  Is the Borg hive mind one train of thought or a massively parallel collection of somehow integrated thought trains?\n\nI'm not saying that God Almighty is in any way like a Borg collective.  I'm just saying that proper understanding the word \"person\" in the context of God can fail 99% of God's children -- and the most they are likely to get for it is a soft rebuke like Jesus gave Phillip or more encouragement like He gave Peter.  \n\nAre you really saying that while God is using His right hand to \"animate\" the incarnation of His Son He is not equally able to allocate any number of independent trains of thought to that same appendage giving it the appearance and actual fact of \"thinking for itself\"?  Can He not have a separate Linux style \"process\" totally dedicated to \"Helping\" each and every one of His children?  How, exactly, would our limited minds perceive the \"process\" that is interacting with us if not as a unique person, omnipresent or not?\n\nHow do you know which model of God's thought processes are correct, given that His thoughts are higher than your thoughts?  Should we foolishly attempt to model them as massively parallel or single threaded?  If they are massively parallel, why can't a simple minded Child of God think of each instance as a Person?  Might God not laugh at your puffed up opinion of your slightly better mental model of His mind just as well, saying \"Who is this that obscures my plans with words without knowledge? Brace yourself like a man; I will question you, and you shall answer me.  Where were you when I laid the earth's foundation? Tell me, if you understand.\"\n\nYou've got some great material here, soundly rooted in Scripture.  If you want to communicate those insights to all the Children that Christ died for, I suggest you consider what Peter himself might tell you:\n\n\"Always be prepared to give an answer to everyone who asks you to give the reason for the hope that you have. But do this with gentleness and respect.\"  1 Peter 3:15",
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      "body": "(1) When we say God sent his right arm into human flesh this kind of image (this here is the left arm) or the kind of idea that some have conjured up for others to scoff and mock...however, God is a omnipresent spirit so God did not need to detach any part of himself he just simply used that part of his omnipresent self and put it in/ attached it to the flesh that would be born male (son)  human flesh without ever being separated or detached from that part of himself......God did not detach anything...GOD can be anywhere and everywhere at the same time as such any part of God can be anywhere he so chooses to \"place it\"  so a better conceptualization is the other diagrams .........and NO the devil is not God's left arm nor is he even a part of God, the devil is NOT God..( he is a created being)\n\nPg 143............... .But wait someone would say, I would never consider my right arm to be my son so why would God consider his right arm to be his son?..God is a omnipresent spirit that “lives” primarily in heaven (as a spirit in the spiritual) God calls that part of himself that he considers to be his right arm His son because of the physical birth of male (son) human flesh that was born into the physical world as a “son of man” (that was in fact God himself) and as such belongs to God. His own right arm came into the physical world via a natural physical birth into human male (son) flesh!!.Was it Mary’s son or God’s son? It is simply a matter of perspective. The male child was born of a virgin but the male human flesh was animated or only had life via that part of God considered to be his own right arm and as such that male human flesh was literally the human flesh of God since it was A SON and God had no other human flesh (or son) it was literally the ONLY or unique birthed BEGOTTEN SON (male human flesh) OF GOD (belonging to / the possession \"of God\") Jesus is a son because of the circumstance .NOT because some other different god person who was not a powerful and knowledgeable as the father God person! .....Except you believe it you will die in your sins..\nPg 14 ..It is superfluous even fallacious to insist on a second person of God because a son must be a different person then a human father because Jesus did not have a human father and God does not take a wife and have children like men do ?!?!… God via the angel told Mary that what was going to be born was to be called the son of God, (NOTE: here in Heb it states “I WILL BE TO HIM A FATHER, AND HE SHALL BE TO ME A SON?) NOT because the servant/Right arm sent is a different person then the father who sent his right arm/ “My servant” the son. Jesus is a literal son by virtue of the birth into human flesh NOT by virtue of having a different person then the father. Further, it is important to understand that there was no son of God until the son was born however that part of God himself that He considers to be God’s own hand / right arm (by which he created all things and would latter send via a physical birth) had always existed. The fact that God has distinctions between father son and Holy Spirit is not any more incomprehensible then a man with a head and right arm (that comes to “man” via a physical birth ergo called the “son of man” & “Son of God”) and a sprit that animates them all. One might be tempted to think that God actually intended for us to understand his nature by using the very creation (even in the language and terminology) that was made in that image.\n\n\n\n\n(2)  I am a father and a son..I am only one person Likewise God is father and son and is only one person…The difference is I am a human I cannot be my own son or my own father ….WHY?\n \nThe circumstance of God’s person is different then the circumstance of my person\n\nMy person exist and  is limited  it had a beginning an origin/genesis…….God’s person is eternal self existent and does NOT require a beginning or origin to exist …that is why he can claim the beginning and the end….I cannot not…a father is the beginning the son is the end of that cycle as a created being with a beginning  or origin I cannot be my own beginning as such cannot complete my own origins.\n\nThe only reason I cannot be my own father is that as a father I had a beginning so I had to FIRST BE A SON BEFORE I BEGAME A FATHER…….BUT GOD DID NOT HAVE TO BE A SON BEFORE HE BECAME A FATHER…I cannot be my own father because of my finite circumstance (I had a beginning, as a created human) not because a number of persons defines what a father is or who can be a father or son. The Human flesh of Jesus had a beginning and was created but the person and spirit of that man Jesus was God and had always existed before the son of man came to be. WHAT MAKES AND DEFINES WHAT IT IS TO BE A FATHER AND A SON IS NOT A CERTAIN NUMBER OF DIFFERENT PERSONS BUT RATHER AND SIMPLY CIRCUMSTANCE. The son of God was born and thus became the son of god when and only when that part of Gods eternal self was born into the physical world into male human (ergo “son”) flesh was born….It was God and that male human flesh (ergo son) was the sole possession of God as such it was  “OF GOD” ( belonging to God)…not a different person.\n\nGod had NO SON before Christ was born........ it makes this point clear in the OT as well as in the NT period! ..But YES JESUS HAD ALWAYS EXISTED!?!\n\nOT…..Ecclesiastes 4:8. There is ONE ALONE, and there is NOT A SECOND; yea, HE HATH NEITHER CHILD (BEN/SON) nor brother: yet is there no end of all his labour; neither is his eye satisfied with riches; neither saith he, For whom do I labour, and bereave my soul of good? This is also vanity, yea, it is a sore travail.....................(Solomon here is mentioning in his discourse  and making reference to  GOD  as comparison/ contrast to the vanity of men....Solomon here is NOT talking about  himself nor is he talking about some or any old lonely man that happens to be out there.... i only mention this because i get the most ridiculous comments sometimes)......................\n\nNT……Heb 1:5 Thou art my Son, THIS DAY (at a certain point & specific day)………. HAVE I BEGOTTEN THEE? And again, I WILL BE TO HIM A FATHER, AND HE SHALL BE TO ME A SON? 6. And again, WHEN HE BRINGETH IN The first begotten into the world ............ ?\n\nJohn 17: 4-5 does not help the trinitarians because as demonstrated JESUS has ALWAYS Existed but NOT always as a son and John 17: 4-5 does not say that Jesus was a son before the world began it ONLY speaks to the fact that Jesus who is the son was in existence with the father before the foundation of the world....Again trinitarian faulty exegesis. They like to ignore the plain scriptures in favor of oblique references and interpret them in a way that directly contradicts clear passages and even though John 17:4-5 is still just as true just as describe here as the right arm of God that would latter come and be born into male (son) human flesh .....The male child was born of a virgin but the male human flesh was animated or only had life via that part of God considered to be his own right arm and as such that male human flesh was literally the human flesh of God since it was A SON and God had no other human flesh (or son) it was literally the ONLY or unique birthed BEGOTTON SON (male human flesh) OF GOD (belonging to / the possession \"of God\") Jesus is a son because what was physical born was male human flesh and a son that was the possession of God because it was God in that male (son) human flesh .NOT because some other different god person who was not a powerful and knowledgeable as the father God person! .....Except you believe it you will die in your sins..\n\nThere is alot of perspective that folks seem to gloss over and do not consider. Of course Jesus has always existed because Jesus is nothing but that part of the spirit of God considered his right hand that God would send and put into flesh via a physical birth…However, from another perspective it is just as equally true that, Jesus the man ( “son of man”/ “son of God”) did not exist before he was born into the flesh (ergo Ps 2:7…this day have I begotten thee; Lk 1:35. )….because before he was born into the flesh he was just God specifically the right arm of God that was promised to come latter. That part of God that God would send into flesh has always existed but that part of God has not always existed in flesh or as a man!?!.....Thus when folks argue over or point fingers on whether or not Jesus existed before he was born into the physical world has everything to do with perspective. No man (or “son of man”) existed for all of eternity prior to the time before God(Jesus) created Man….There was only God (Jesus) who created man and all things…This brings us to another important point and concept to understand. Man is a spirit animating flesh. When God put himself  (that part of his eternally existent self)  into flesh via a physical birth then God literally became a man and a son. That son of man did not exist prior to the point that man was born. However, that part of the spirit of God that was born into that flesh had always existed because it is God in the same way that if I put my right hand into a leather glove (of human flesh) that part of me that is put into that leather glove existed before during and after it leaves that leather glove of flesh. Never the less, the man did not exist until the male human flesh (son) Jesus was born. The God which is the spirit because God is a spirit and Jesus is God had always existed before he was born into the world but he did not exist as a man (or “son of man”) prior to the time that he himself as God created man/ “son of man”!?! Before the son came into the world he was only considered to be the right hand of God, that would come and when it did he would be called the only begotten son of God, for the very reason that while many have been called \"sons of God\" Jesus was the ONLY BEGOTTEN son God had via a human women!?!?\n\n\nNO God did not create a right arm at any point in time...that eternal part of God that God himself considers to be his right arm that has ALWAYS existed came to be born into human male flesh and at that point because of the birth and male human flesh became THE SON OF GOD....by virtue of circumstance NOT by virtue of being newly created..!?!? Jesus as THE SON had a point in time in which he BEGAN to be a son.......but Jesus had always existed because the man Jesus is that part of God that God considers to be his own right arm that God would send via a physical natural birth into human male (son) flesh!?! \n\nNEXT IS: Slide #2 \"where is God\"?.....Jesus who is God standing at the right hand of God, YES himself! (Acts 7:56;) ....When I sit down my right hand (an object) is “at my right hand\" (a location). Take a look at the diagrams in this Chapter which conceptualizes the whole idea of \"where God is\". There are many other things we shall continue to explore in this study and once you see it you should realize just how simple it all really is. Then your next question will be “how come then so few or almost no one ever saw all this before”; to which i suggest (A) a few have (B) 2 Thess 2:10-11. \n\nIt is rather ironic even hypocritical that some would also try to point to Rev 5:7.  And he came and took the book out of the right hand of him that sat upon the throne. Note the diagram could have just as easily drawn this to show a lamb and a man sitting on a throne. They attempt to point to this verse to claim  “see Jesus is not the literal right hand of God because Jesus took it out of the right hand of God”  and thus as such, they will argue,  Jesus must be a different person then the father.  \n\n(1)  These are the same people who claim “you cant take revelation literal it is symbolic” and “metaphorical”. These are double minded, cherry picking hypocrites. Look, verse 6 states “ and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain.”…So, there is a “man” sitting on the throne but, it was the lamb (look like a slain animal not a human man) that took the book NOT a different man who comes and takes the book out of the hand of the man who is sitting on the throne not that it would matter if it did for the reasons explained here, The point should become obvious once you understand that God can take as many and as many different bodies as he chooses all at the same time without being different persons. Remember, Christ who is our High is also the sacrificial lamb of God, multiple simultaneous roles are not difficult for the omnipresent God. God is “omnipresent” (and not limited to a singular body or body type even at the same time, Side one demonstrates the fact that God did take multiple different bodies at the same time, so pointing to that as “evidence” that God is multiple different persons is just pointing to your Trinitarian conclusion as “evidence” for itself!?!  )  Angels are spirits also but they have bodies that they are limited/confined within/ to and they are NOT “omnipresent”. God on the other hand is not “confined to the limited space of a singular body. He created all things and can take as many different bodies as he likes all at the same time without being multiple and or different omnipresent persons! God is ONE PERSON who can be anywhere at the same time!? \n\n(2) Take note of the omnipresence of God and how the anthropomorphic (with the likeness of  man; hands arms, sitting on a throne or chair) God sitting on the throne is NOT everything or all there is to God. (Obviously the same omnipresent  “ONE GOD” was in heaven and on earth at the same time!!) The anthropomorphic God (man sitting on the throne) is only that part of God that is manifested or projected into the place that God created called heaven (spiritual universe); the environment where the angels also live. God created environments for spirits and angels to live in, God exist external of any and all environments (He is “omnipresent) that angels/demons, humans et al live in. God has a anthropomorphic projection of HIMSELF in heaven but God can be in multiple different locations (or bodies) at the same time, doing different things because God is omnipresent/ everywhere! God is not limited to the confines of any singular anthropomorphic manifestation/projection into “heaven” or earth (Gen 18:2) because God is everywhere and anthropomorphisms are just the projections/ manifestations that God who is “omnipresent” (and not limited to a singular body) uses to show things either to his other heavenly host and or to men on earth. God is not limited by any number of anthropomorphism . But God is limited by His own word which is that he does have what he considers to be a right arm and that is what he would send and call his son, and except you believe it you will die in your sins! God can and is in/ manifested/projected in multiple different locations doing multiple different things all  at the same time, for the very Reason that ONLY HE the omnipresent God could, be “all in all”!?! \n\nWhat John saw in heaven was literal but it was not God in a box it was a box that God projected himself into as a animal that had been slain and as the father sitting on the throne before the angels and other heavenly host. But the omnipresent God is not totally encapsulated in any number of different bodies and or certainly not the limited forms of a lamb and a man sitting on a throne!?\n\nThere are many different ways these diagrams could have been draw and even if you do not like my illustrations common sense should tell you that if Jesus is God then he is the OMNIPRESENT GOD and the “difficulty” is only one of  proper conceptualization not anything found in the text. \n\n\nWhile some have tried to point to John \" Who is a liar but he who denies that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist who denies the Father and the Son. Whoever denies the Son does not have the Father either; he who acknowledges the Son has the Father also.”..they dont seem to realize this is speaking of all those groups who claim that Jesus was a different person then the father Trinitarians/ JW islam et al....why?.. because while some deny the divinity of Christ other make Christ a different divinity and deny it. You see both sets of groups make the same error they point to arguments and say Jesus was a different person then his father.....thus even Jw and Islam claims Jesus was the Jewish messiah/Christ who was to come in the flesh) they like the trinitarians all deny WHO it was (or what person) that came (to be the Christ) in the flesh!?!....\"WHO\" it was (what person) that came \"IN THE FLESH\", IS THE DETERMINING FACTOR IN WHAT IT MEANS TO BE “ANT-CHRIST”! To deny the father is to deny the son because they are one and the same person that came in the flesh!......one denies divinity the other creates a pantheon....both are damned....\n\n\n\n\nIn fact the holy spirit is the same right arm as well…..go back and look at part 3 and NOTE  that what is revealed is the right arm ……\n\n(D) WHO IS THE HOLY SPIRIT?  Pgs 72-81\n\nJohn 14:9.  Jesus saith unto him, HAVE I BEEN SO LONG TIME WITH YOU, AND YET HAST THOU NOT KNOWN ME, Philip? HE THAT HATH SEEN ME HATH SEEN THE FATHER; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father?......The \"oneness\" between Christ and the father is not comparable to a man and his wife, for only a fool would say \"When you have seen me you have seen my wife, how sayest thou then, Shew us your wife?\" \n\n.................. 10.  Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me?....  13 And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, THAT WILL I DO, THAT THE FATHER MAY BE GLORIFIED in the Son. 14.  If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I WILL DO IT.  …………..\n\nNOW WE GET TO THE HOLY SPIRIT:\n\n…………..17. Even THE SPIRIT OF TRUTH; (Jn 14:6 I AM the way, THE TRUTH,) whom the world cannot receive, .. for HE DEWLLETH WITH YOU, (present tense/standing next to them in the flesh) and SHALL BE IN YOU... (future tense “In them”)  18. I will not leave you comfortless: I WILL COME TO YOU (future tense “In them”) Note: The spirit of Christ is the sprit of God and the holy spirit that is why Christ said “I will come to you” (to comfort them, because Christ is the comforter).  The spirit was standing next to them in flesh... ....latter it would come to them to be inside of them (inside of their flesh as the spirit we are given).....that is why. he would send the spirit...... However, Jesus himself here makes the point that the same person who was the HOLY SPIRIT that would come was standing next to them but lets them know “I will come to you again to be Inside of you” The present condition was external to them but in the flesh dwelling with them but, the future condition would be internal to them .. Rom 8:9 When you “see” or “pray” to the father (in the name of the father covered further in Ch 7) you are “seeing” and praying to Jesus and visa versa and Jesus will be the one to “come” and answer because father and son are just different  parts/manifestations of the same person!?\n\nEph 4:4.  There is one body, and ONE SPIRIT, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling; 5.  ONE LORD, ONE FAITH, ONE BAPTISM, 6.  ONE GOD AND FATHER of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.\n\n1Peter 1:10.  Of which salvation THE PROPHETS have inquired and searched diligently, WHO PROPHESIED of the grace that should come unto you:11.  Searching what, or what manner of time THE SPIRIT OF CHRIST WHICH WAS IN THEM, when IT TESTIFIED beforehand the sufferings of Christ, and the glory that should follow……… \n\n2Peter 1:21.  For THE PROPHECY CAME not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as THEY WERE MOVED BY THE HOLY GHOST. \n\nCol 1:27.  … THIS MYSTERY among the Gentiles; WHICH IS CHRIST IN YOU, the hope of glory: ….\n\nRom 8:9.....if so be that THE SPIRIT OF GOD DEWELL IN YOU. Now if any man have not THE SPIRIT OF CHRIST, he is none of his.........\n\nJohn 6:63.  It is THE SPIRIT that quickeneth; … THE WORDS … they ARE SPIRIT, and they are life…\n\nRom 8:9.  … THE SPIRIT dwell IN YOU. 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      "body": "Pg 71 ….Trinitarianism is just as Anti-Christ as much as is ISLAM, JW, LDS, ROMAN CATHOLIC et al because (they all confess the Christ/messiah came in the flesh, Yes even Islam claims Jesus was the Jewish messiah/Christ who was to come) they all deny WHO it was (what person) that came (to be the Christ) in the flesh!?!....[ \"WHO\" it was (what person) that came \"IN THE FLESH\", IS THE DETERMINING FACTOR IN WHAT IT MEANS TO BE “ANT-CHRIST”! To deny the father is to deny the son because they are one and the same person that came in the flesh!\n\n\n\n\n1John 2:18. Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that ANTICHRIST shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time. 19. THEY WENT OUT FROM US, BUT THEY WERE NOT OF US; FOR IF THEY HAD BEEN OF US, THEY WOULD NO DOUBT HAVE CONTINUED WITH US: BUT THEY WENT OUT, THAT THEY MIGHT BE MADE MANIFEST THAT THEY WERE NOT ALL OF US. 20. But ye have an unction from the Holy One, and ye know all things. 21. I have not written unto you because ye know not the truth, but because ye know it, and that no lie is of the truth. 22. Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? HE IS ANTICHRIST, THAT DENIETH THE FATHER AND THE SON. 23. WHOSOEVER DENIETH THE SON, THE SAME HATH NOT THE FATHER: [BUT] HE THAT ACKNOWLEDGETH THE SON HATH THE FATHER ALSO.\n\n\nJohn 14: 8. Philip saith unto him, Lord, SHEW US THE FATHER,.. 9. Jesus saith unto him, HAVE I BEEN SO LONG TIME WITH YOU, AND YET HAST THOU NOT KNOWN ME, Philip? he that hath SEEN ME HATH SEEN THE FATHER; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father?\n\n\nThe \"oneness\" between Christ and the father is not comparable to a man and his wife, for only a fool would say \"When you have seen me you have seen my wife, how sayest thou then, Shew us your wife?\" Notice they asked to see THE FATHER and the response was Jn 14:9 ..“HAVE I BEEN SO LONG time with you, and yet hast THOU NOT KNOW ME, Philip.....Now image some fool trying to claim that statement if you asked to see his wife!?!!? The whole point to Christ statements is that he is the SAME person as the father [you want to see the FATHER but have I been with you but you don’t know me!?!?!]” \n\n\nJohn 7:7. FOR MANY DECEIVERS ARE ENTERED INTO THE WORLD, WHO CONFESS NOT that Jesus CHRIST IS COME IN THE FLESH. This is a deceiver and an antichrist. 8. Look to yourselves, that we lose not those things which we have wrought, but that we receive a full reward. 9. WHOSOEVER TRANSGRESSETH, AND ABIDETH NOT IN THE DOCTRINE OF CHRIST, HATH NOT GOD. HE THAT ABIDETH IN THE DOCTRINE OF CHRIST, HE HATH BOTH THE FATHER AND THE SON. 10. If there come any unto you, AND BRING NOT THIS DOCTRINE, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed: 11. For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds.\n\n\n1 John 4:1. Beloved, believe not every spirit, but TRY THE SPIRITS WHETHER THEY ARE OF GOD: BECAUSE MANY FALSE PROPHETS are gone out into the world. 2. Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: EVERY SPIRIT THAT CONFESSETH THAT JESUS CHRIST IS COME IN THE FLESH IS OF GOD: 3. And EVERY SPIRIT THAT CONFESSETH NOT THAT JESUS CHRIST IS COME IN THE FLESH IS NOT OF GOD: AND THIS IS THAT SPIRIT OF ANTICHRIST, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.\n4. Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world. 5. They are of the world: therefore speak they of the world, and the world heareth them. 6. We are of God: he that knoweth God heareth us; he that is not of God heareth not us. Hereby know we the spirit of truth, and the spirit of error. 7. Beloved, let us love one another: for love is of God; and every one that loveth is born of God, and knoweth God. 8. He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love. 9. In this was manifested the love of God toward us, because that GOD SENT HIS ONLY BEGOTTEN SON INTO THE WORLD, that we might live through him. 10. Herein is love, not that we loved God, but that he loved us, and sent his Son to be the propitiation for our sins. 11. Beloved, if God so loved us, we ought also to love one another. 12. No man hath seen God at any time. If we love one another, God dwelleth in us, and his love is perfected in us. 13. HEREBY KNOW WE THAT WE DWELL IN HIM, AND HE IN US, BECAUSE HE HATH GIVEN US OF HIS SPIRIT. 14. And we have seen and do testify that the Father sent the Son to be the Saviour of the world. 15. WHOSOEVER SHALL CONFESS THAT JESUS IS THE SON OF GOD, GOD DWELLETH IN HIM, AND HE IN GOD.\n\n\nLook at verse 12-13, do you rest your theology and salvation in the fact that you “love” those around you that you consider to be “of the faith”? Now, look at verse 15 Do you rest your theology and salvation on the fact that you and every other person claiming to be Christian confess that a man named Jesus is the son of God as reason your not anit-christ? If your going to claim that since you confess that a man named Jesus was the son of God and came in the flesh as a reason you are not anti-Christ then every person who even claims to be a Christian, that jesus is the son of God, no matter what their doctrine/denomination is will be saved because they all confess that Jesus is the son of God, thus “God dwelleth in them and they in God” and you have no reason to try to convert anyone who claims to believe Jesus is the son of God no matter what their doctrines/denominations are!. If the reader does not understand the point here, it is because they fail to see in the verse and in that statement of confessing Jesus is the son of God that the MOST IMPORTAINT principle is: “who the person of the man Jesus is” (cross-reference “The Name of the Lord”/ “The word” in Chapter 7) Who the person of Jesus is the whole crux of the matter (There is big difference between a God who sends part of himself born into the physical world and call that part of himself his son verse multiple different persons who send each other around and subservient to the first person!?!) and what determines this issue of “anti-Christ”, not just the fact that a man named “Jesus” was the son of God even the mormons and almost every denomination without exception believe that!?! The issue is not just that a man named Jesus Christ (the savior) came in the flesh but to deny “who that man is, who the person of that man is, that came in the flesh” that is the crux of the issue and defining line of what it means to be anit-christ. Look back at 1John 2:18\n\n\n\n\n\n\nTo deny who is the person of the man Jesus is to deny who the person of the father is because they are the same person. If they were not the same person then a denial of one person would not be a denial of the other person automatically because by definition two different persons are not synonymous. The whole point to these passages is showing that the person of the son and the father are synonymous. The fact that you confess that a man named Jesus was the son of God does not acknowledge the person of the son and the person of the father. The son is the word of God to deny the word is to deny the father who sent that word. To deny the word of God (the son) is to deny the God (father) who sent that word. Even if you were still unsure that the father and the son were the same person, you would still be left with the unavoidable fact that if the father and the son are the same person, then to deny who is the person of the father is to deny who is the person of the son and to deny who is the person of the son is to deny who is the person of the father. Thus, as a Trinitarian there could be no expectation of salvation as an anti-Christ. \nJames 2:19. Thou believest that there is ONE GOD; thou doest well: THE DEVILS ALSO BELIEVE, and tremble. \n\n\nFirst notice that James makes a point of stating a belief in ONE GOD as opposed to the pagan practices of that day of worshiping multiple different persons as one of multple different persons who are god... Trinitarins do not even have a claim to believing that there is one God, Calling your pantheon one God does not magically make the pantheon of god persons disappear or force reality to conform to your “confessions of faith”!?! Three different persons who are each god with different amounts of god knowledge power and authority does not fool anyone except the fools who will believe that the three are one and one is three and you have called on the name of the Lord because, well…..you confessed all of that, so it must be true. Now the words of Christ are spirit (Jn 6:63 …the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.) the words of Christ only describe and define God as “ONE” and as we shall see in chapter six a specific Greek word that ONLY refers to ONE person when speaking of individuals. It is outright willful blatant stupidity to attempt to claim that God is an individual of three different persons and the spirit that claims God is three different persons is NOT the spirit of Christ!\n\n\n\n\nPg 69..To have different persons (in the “God-head” et al) each with their own unique spirit or person from the other two persons and subservient to just one of those spirit-persons makes a hierarchy of god persons just like the Greek gods. The only difference is limiting the number of these god persons to three as opposed to any other number in the other pagan pantheon of gods. Simply, claiming “no it is not a pantheon of gods. We confess God is one nature/substance/being with three different persons (composing the god-head)”, simply moves the location of your pantheon from Mt Olympus up to heaven into God’s head (but the pantheon is still there, Further, having multiple persons in one head is a mental illness it is not “divine”) !?!\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nPG 97 …A tree is known by the fruit it bears. The fact that God said he is \"one\" and someone came along and contradicts that and states \"God is three in one\" should have given you a hint, harking back to Satan in The garden...God said you will die...Satan comes along and states no you will be more WISE......today .God said He is one; but Satan's children come along and say no three is more WISE and humble in the face of God’s grandeur only “a mystery” that can be understood “in faith”. God uses head and right arm to explain the distinctions between father and son.. However, the Trinitarian heretics say to the effect: \"NO, that is just a figure of speech, or that is not what God really means. What God is really saying is that God is three different persons\". Fools, hypocrites and blind guides, God said he was One and by your traditions and vain imaginations have taken the words of God and made them of no effect, refashioning God into your image! The worship of different persons who are each God with different degrees/amounts of god knowledge, god power and god authority that authorize and send each other around on different missions is the practice of polytheistic pagans who worship their gods, NOT Christians. Simply calling all of your different gods, “God” does not change the fact that you are worshiping multiple different god persons. Claiming that worship of three different persons is the worship of only one deity is not just a contradiction in scripture and terms but just as ridiculous as taking a ford pickup truck and replacing the hood (and all other emblems) ornament(s) with a Mercedes-Benz emblem on it then trying to pass it off as a Mercedes sedan!?!\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nPg 27 ..... What is even more curiously hypocritical is the fact that according to the Trinitarian reasoning, God is not capable of being only one person in three parts. NO NO, however, on the other hand they are quick to point to how great God, past our human understanding and our limited feeble minds He is as the reason for why we should just accept that God can be one being with three different persons as a “god-head”. The coherent and consistent approach to the one person godhead is thrown out in favor of the incomprehensible three person God because God is so great he could do that. They will say we don’t have to understand it because we can’t and must not put limits on God. However, on the other hand, they will deny that God is great enough to be only be one person who is the father and the same person who is the son and the same person who is the holy spirit (even though that is how he describes himself.) God is not great enough to be and do that. In any case, the Trinitarian’s treat their god to only be as great and incomprehensible in the way and for the reason they imagine the God to be. Trinitarinas have no difficulty “seeing” (never mind they also claim it is impossible to fully understand) that God is three different persons (with three different minds and or three different locations with different amounts of knowledge, power and authority that send each other around) but they cannot, will not accept and would fiercely deny and claim that it is impossible for one God with one person, could just have three different modes bodies (physical/spiritual He occupies) of all the same person!?! You see God is only as Great and incomprehensible in the way and for they reasons that they say God is past (your) “feeble” human understanding, but they in their “humility”, accept that fact; and “be damned” what anyone or any scriptures have to say otherwise about it. \n\n\n\nYou can download the complete FREE book from\nhttps://www.scribd.com/doc/305367608/The-Trinity-Heresy\nOR \nhttps://www.academia.edu/23463667/THE_TRINITY_HERESY",
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      "body": "PART 4 & 5 HOW MANY OTHER GODS IS THERE FOR \"THE ONE GOD\" TO SPEAK WITH?!?... WHO WAS JESUS/GOD PRAYING TO and what about the voice at his baptism?..... Pgs 31-36........The real question should be ... How does having multiple different persons keep this one God/being/entity from praying to himself?! The Trinitarians want to have their cake and eat it too as the saying goes. On the one hand they need to say they only worship one indivisible God being/ entity but on the other hand they feel the need for some reason to keep Jesus or God from praying and talking to himself by dividing him up into different persons!?! It never occurs to them that that since there is only one indivisible God to pray too and Jesus is that indivisible God come in the flesh that he would need to talk to himself as to show us how to live, suffer, pray and die for our (and the flesh) benefit not his!?! . God as man ergo \"me\" making referencing to God the spirit only ergo \"you\".....There is only one God to pray too so if God is going to personally (in the flesh) show us how to pray to God, then he would need to do so by praying to himself. There is perfectly good coherent reasons for the one God to be praying to the one God (praying to himself).\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nBut, oh no, Trinitarians feel that if God talked to himself then that would be stupid at best and at worst make God schizophrenic or some other mental illness they fear. No sir, they will have none of it, they are on a “mission from god”. They are going to go out and save God from himself and any schizoid/mental illnesses that might “bedevil” God himself. What is even more ridiculous is that their solution to keep God from talking to himself (some mental illness they feel) is to evoke multiple person(s)-ality (deny it is a) disorder and insert it onto God’s “being” (call it one “entity”/ “The Godhead”) instead!?! Man is made in the image of God and when I see a man with multiple different personalities, in the way Trinitarians desperately need their god to be, we call it a disorder (demon possession to be more exact) not divine!?! .......................If the One God (in heaven who is a SPIRIT) wanted to validate that it is in fact himself (on the earth in human flesh) that has come in the flesh on the earth, then a voice out of heaven telling everyone that is Himself is perfectly consistent with a coherent agenda and methodology. The voice and witness to men does not come for God’s own sake but for man’s reassurance. (John 12:30 Jesus answered and said, THIS VOICE CAME NOT BECAUSE OF ME, BUT FOR YOUR SAKES) The one person God (who is omnipresent) in heaven as well as on the earth (at the same time) wanted everyone to know that it was indeed HIMSELF \"in the flesh\" Suddenly we can see that the only things “bedeviled” with “many demons” (and mental imperfections) are the Trinitarian’s logic and mindset itself\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nPg 78…….So while Trinitarians are quick to complain that God was not talking to himself at Christ baptism or in Gen “let us” they ignore the logical demands of their own theology! If Jesus is the ONE GOD in flesh and the Father is the SAME ONE GOD in heaven then Trinitarianism demands THE ONE GOD is talking to HIMSELF the same “being”! Claiming that God is multiple different persons as the reason for why God is not talking to himself (because God is three different “selfs”) only demonstrates that what they really worship is in fact not a ONE GOD who talks to himself but three different god “selfs”/ and they all talk to each other! When they speak about who God was talking and praying to, they are quick to say “the other person, NOT HIMSELF!” But if you ask them how many gods do they pray to then they will say “ONLY ONE”!?! They expect you to believe that those three different persons are THE ONE GOD-BEING” which is like calling three different cars “THE ONE VEHICLE” (they are text book examples of prov 26:12) This of course is all nonsense and just polytheism with different wrapping paper and a bow on top. (remember this is not one of those unscrupulous pyramid schemes this is a trapezoid with a solid foundation!?!) If Jesus is not the same ONE GOD that the father is then no amount of denials can overcome the fact that Trinitarians would still be talking and worshiping to different (and in this case) “ONE GODS”. If however, Jesus/father are the same ONE GOD then Trinitarianism cannot escape the fact that “THE ONE GOD” would still have to pray and or talk to HIMSELF at some point. Denials only solidify the fact that they do pray and or worship to three different gods; three different god “selfs” and the only place you can find a “being” that is three different persons is in the “logic” and heads of fools who think they worship one God only that does not talk to himself. ………… A tree is known by its fruit...In the beginning God said you will die; Satan came along and stated you will be more \"wise\".....God and His Children said God is one; Satan's children say no three or triune God is more \"wise\"...You are of your father the devil. Those who believe in God in three persons are noting but polytheist who insist and “confess” that they are true monotheist....like liars and thieves who insist and “confess” they are not lying and stealing...!?! All liars will have their part in the lake of fire. The fact you claim to be or not to be something does not make it true. You cannot believe in three persons of God if you believe in one God. Three different persons is by definition plurality of beings (godS not God) simply laying claim to it is \"beyond comprehension\" to explain or understand, but \"don't worry we “confess” that we are monotheist and are not polytheist\" is in fact just delusional.\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nHere is a diagram that graphically depicts how ONE PERSON who is God can Be everywhere at the same time... If a omnipresent God speaks from two different locations even at the same time why is that so amazing, why would Jesus need to be a ventriloquist?!? But perhaps you worship a small God who can only be and act [communicate] in one location at a time [in only one way at a time] People unwittingly put god into a box or environment for God to live in rather then God creating the box and environments for men and angels to live you. Obviously That part of the spirit of God which is connected to the flesh that was born into this world is connected to that flesh in a way that the rest of the same spirit of God is not. Ergo, the distinctions between the Father, Son and Holy spirit are distinctions in function and of circumstance/condition of the various parts of God not differences in person!?! \n\n\n\n\nPGg10... There are only distinctions in the manifestations due to being in different kinds of universes ie spiritual & physical and functioning differently in those all at the same time....Same HE or HIM but the HE that is in heaven is also the He that is on earth but the HE on earth is subordinate and obedient to the HE in heaven because the HE in heaven is the greater part of the HE that is on earth!?!.............\n\n\n\n\n**************************************************\n\n\n\n\n\n\nPART 5\n\nMat 28:19. Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them IN THE NAME OF the FATHER, and of the SON, and of the HOLY GHOST: \n\nSome look at this verse and “see” direct evidence of three different persons, which is quite bizarre since This passages specifically makes the point that Father son and holy spirit all have the same name by placing them side by side equating those with each other as the same person!.. The passage is NOT making a distinction of three different names we are to worship in, pay homage to, baptize into!?! \n\n(A) Placing father, son and holy spirit in the same list with each other, it identifies that father son and Holy spirit have the SAME NAME! It does not say IN THE NAMES OF it states IN THE NAME singular not plural (compare: Gal 3:16) (Phil 2:9. Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given HIM A NAME WHICH IS ABOVE EVERY NAME:…………………….; Acts 4:12. Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is NONE OTHER NAME under heaven given among men, WHEREBY WE MUST BE SAVED.)………..There is ONLY ONE NAME that saves not three different names!!!\n\n(B) John 5:43.  I AM COME IN MY FATHER'S NAME, \nThe fact that three things are mentioned in a list is not a “proof” of three different things or persons. In fact, in writing and or public speaking there is a technical use called a tetracolon and also “rule of three” it was widely used by the Greeks and roman orators of whom it is said “perfected it” even today in modern language it is widely used and scriptures use the same basic construct. A good example of this can be seen here:  in Revelation \n\nRev 1:2 Who bare record of (1) THE WORD of God, and of\n(2) THE TESTIMONY of Jesus Christ, and of \n(3) all THINGS THAT HE SAW. (Rev 19:9..These are the true sayings of God. .10…for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.)\n\nAlso applies to 2Cor 13:14.  The grace \n(1) OF THE LORD JESUS CHRIST, and the love \n(2) OF GOD, and the communion of \n(3) THE HOLY GHOST, be with you all. Amen. …Note the use of “GOD” here rather then father….it matters not if you try to assume that father is under discussion here because the fact is there is ONLY ONE GOD PERIOD and in this verse Jesus, God and Holy Ghost are all God and all the same God. \n\nAll three of these things are the same thing/ message addressed from three different perspectives (or portions/parts) or ways of saying the same thing; It is NOT three different messages or testimonies or “Words of God” !?!\n\n(C) Prov 30:4. Who hath ascended up into heaven, or descended? who hath gathered the wind in his fists? …… what is his name, and WHAT IS HIS SON'S NAME, if thou canst tell?\n\nLEARN & “KNOW” WHAT “THE NAME OF THE LORD” THAT YOUR ARE BAPTISED INTO AND OR YOUR “FAITH ONLY” IS IN!?!\n\nPs 138:2. …. and praise THY NAME ……. for thou hast magnified THY WORD ABOVE ALL THY NAME\nRev 19:13. .. and HIS NAME IS called THE WORD OF GOD…………\n\nSO:\n\n- If God placed His \"THE WORD\" ABOVE all of God's various NAMEs\n- and Jesus NAME (who is God in the flesh) IS called \"THE WORD\"\n \nThen it must follow that the MOST important name we should KNOW and CALL UPON is \"THE WORD\"; . Not the letters that spell the word but the sayings/ doctrine/commands…..…… It does NOT say  “thy word”  is given a name above other names because  here THY WORD is identified as the name that is placed above all other names. You cannot pronounce “the word” letter by letter that is why they called him “Jesus” but JESUS has a name which is the highest name that God has and it cannot be pronounced letter by letter !?! …. You cannot pronounce nor could your write out in the scriptures “the word” (all of God’s spoken creation/instructions/ law et al) letter by letter which is why the scriptures refer to “the name of Jesus” which is the same as saying “the name of God”…..but only a fool should think that God is that name!?!\n\nIsaiah 52:1. .. 6. Therefore MY PEOPLE SHALL KNOW MY NAME: ...........What NAME do you \"KNOW\".?\n\n1Jn 2:3. And HEREBY WE DO KNOW that we KNOW HIM, if we KEEP HIS COMMANDMENTS./ Titus 1: 16. They profess that THEY KNOW God; but IN WORKS THEY DENY him…….\n.\nRev 3:8….. kept MY WORD, and hast not DENIED MY NAME;\n\nJn 17:6. I have MANIFESTED THY NAME .... and they have KEPT THY WORD.\n\n1John 5:13. These things have I written unto you that BELIEVE ON THE NAME of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may BELIEVE ON THE NAME of the Son of God.\n\n1Jn 3:23. And THIS IS HIS COMMANDMENT, That we should BELIEVE ON THE NAME of his Son\n\nJn 20:31. But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life THROUGH HIS NAME.\n1Jn 3:23. And THIS IS HIS COMMANDMENT, That we should BELIEVE ON THE NAME of his Son\n\nERGO: In the name of the father son and Holy Spirit does not denote three different names or three different persons but three ways/modes of the same person and name of God..AT the name OF JESUS.....Jesus has a name that belongs to Jesus...just like the name OF GOD means a name that belongs to GOD but it is ridiculous to suggest that the letters G-O-D is that name...likewise it is just as ridiculous to suggest that the name OF JESUS is the letters J-E-S-U-S..........other considerations: PS 83:16&19 the name is Jehovah but Jehovah is not the name!?! Jehovah means self existent eternal one it is as much an adjective that describes what God's as it is used as a proper noun “My name is wonderful”,  what  fool would think that my proper name is “wonderful” …. Jesus is what the man (who was the word in the flesh) that was called “Jesus”  because only a fool would think that you could pronounce THE HIGHEST NAME OF GOD and or “the word” (all of God’s spoken creation/instructions/ law et al) letter by letter…. (ie Judges 13:18; 2Cor 12:4 but God’s name is not as great and or “unspeakable???)\n\n……….Soooooooooo WHAT \"NAME\" did you \"CALL UPON\" and Confess and or are now denying ?!? \n………………………………Ps 53:4\n\n\n(D) WHO IS THE HOLY SPIRIT?  Pgs 72-81\n\nJohn 14:9.  Jesus saith unto him, HAVE I BEEN SO LONG TIME WITH YOU, AND YET HAST THOU NOT KNOWN ME, Philip? HE THAT HATH SEEN ME HATH SEEN THE FATHER; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father?......The \"oneness\" between Christ and the father is not comparable to a man and his wife, for only a fool would say \"When you have seen me you have seen my wife, how sayest thou then, Shew us your wife?\" \n\n.................. 10.  Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me?....  13 And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, THAT WILL I DO, THAT THE FATHER MAY BE GLORIFIED in the Son. 14.  If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I WILL DO IT.  …………..\n\nNOW WE GET TO THE HOLY SPIRIT:\n\n…………..17. Even THE SPIRIT OF TRUTH; (Jn 14:6 I AM the way, THE TRUTH,) whom the world cannot receive, .. for HE DEWLLETH WITH YOU, (present tense/standing next to them in the flesh) and SHALL BE IN YOU... (future tense “In them”)  18. I will not leave you comfortless: I WILL COME TO YOU (future tense “In them”) Note: The spirit of Christ is the sprit of God and the holy spirit that is why Christ said “I will come to you” (to comfort them, because Christ is the comforter).  The spirit was standing next to them in flesh... ....latter it would come to them to be inside of them (inside of their flesh as the spirit we are given).....that is why. he would send the spirit...... However, Jesus himself here makes the point that the same person who was the HOLY SPIRIT that would come was standing next to them but lets them know “I will come to you again to be Inside of you” The present condition was external to them but in the flesh dwelling with them but, the future condition would be internal to them .. Rom 8:9 When you “see” or “pray” to the father (in the name of the father covered further in Ch 7) you are “seeing” and praying to Jesus and visa versa and Jesus will be the one to “come” and answer because father and son are just different  parts/manifestations of the same person!?\n\nEph 4:4.  There is one body, and ONE SPIRIT, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling; 5.  ONE LORD, ONE FAITH, ONE BAPTISM, 6.  ONE GOD AND FATHER of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.\n\n1Peter 1:10.  Of which salvation THE PROPHETS have inquired and searched diligently, WHO PROPHESIED of the grace that should come unto you:11.  Searching what, or what manner of time THE SPIRIT OF CHRIST WHICH WAS IN THEM, when IT TESTIFIED beforehand the sufferings of Christ, and the glory that should follow……… \n\n2Peter 1:21.  For THE PROPHECY CAME not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as THEY WERE MOVED BY THE HOLY GHOST. \n\nCol 1:27.  … THIS MYSTERY among the Gentiles; WHICH IS CHRIST IN YOU, the hope of glory: ….\n\nRom 8:9.....if so be that THE SPIRIT OF GOD DEWELL IN YOU. Now if any man have not THE SPIRIT OF CHRIST, he is none of his.........\n\nJohn 6:63.  It is THE SPIRIT that quickeneth; … THE WORDS … they ARE SPIRIT, and they are life…\n\nRom 8:9.  … THE SPIRIT dwell IN YOU. Now if any man have not THE SPIRIT OF CHRIST, he is none of his.\nThere is only ONE SPIRIT not one spirit for Christ the man another spirit for the Father person (who is a spirit) and a third spirit called the Holy Spirit!?!?!....1Cor 12:13....There is no such thing as three different spirits who are also the same ONE SPIRIT ...\n\nYou can download the complete FREE book from\n\nhttps://www.scribd.com/doc/305367608/The-Trinity-Heresy\nOR \nhttps://www.academia.edu/23463667/THE_TRINITY_HERESY",
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      "body": "PART 3 EVEN GOD USES MODALISM by definition SO WHEN DID IT BECOME HERESY AGAIN?!? He used it to describe himself and who would be coming in the flesh\n \n.....and yet the trinitarians will say\n\nMODALISM also called Sabellianism, is THE UNORTHODOX BELIEF that God is one person who has revealed himself in three FORMS or MODES in contrast to the Trinitarian doctrine where God is one being eternally existing in three persons. http://www.theopedia.com/modalism\n\n\nMODALISM teaches that the Heavenly Father, Resurrected Son and Holy Spirit identified by the Trinity Doctrine are different modes OR ASPECTS of the One God, as perceived by the believer, rather than three coeternal persons within the Godhead. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabellianism\nASPECT is a term used across several religions and in theology to describe a particular manifestation or conception of a deity or other divine being. Depending the religion, these might to disjoint OR overlapping PARTS, or METHODS of perceiving or conceptualizing the deity in a particular context. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aspect_(religion)\n\n\nThat fact that a anthrophomorphism is used to describe the PARTS of the deity that is manifested as such is modalistic!?!..........it is that simple .....God sending or manifesting three different PARTS of himself is modalism by definition.....Those three different PARTS that God manifest can be \n\n\n(1) anthrophomorphism(s)\n(2) any other number of qualities/ aspects of God (love, wisdom et al) .\n\n\nGOD HIMSELF describes his nature and what was sent and manifest of himself to man in MOADLISTIC terms concepts of PARTS of himself NOT different persons......\nANTHROPOMORPHISM is the attribution of human characteristics and qualities to non-human beings, objects, natural, or supernatural phenomena. God, animals, the forces of nature, and unseen or unknown authors of chance are frequent subjects of anthropomorphosis. The term comes from two Greek words, άνθρωπος(anthrōpos), meaning \"HUMAN,\" and μορφή (morphē), meaning \"SHAPE\" or \"FORM.\" The suffix \"-ism\" originates from the morpheme \"-isma\" in the Greek language. http://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/Anthropomorphism\nAnthropomorphic adjective\n1. OF or RELATING TO ANTHROPOMORPHISM\n2. RESEMBLING THE HUMAN FORM\nhttp://dictionary.reference.com/browse/anthropomorphic?s=t\n\n\n\n\nPg 27 ..... What is even more curiously hypocritical is the fact that according to the Trinitarian reasoning, God is not capable of being only one person in three parts. NO NO, however, on the other hand they are quick to point to how great God, past our human understanding and our limited feeble minds He is as the reason for why we should just accept that God can be one being with three different persons as a “god-head”. The coherent and consistent approach to the one person godhead is thrown out in favor of the incomprehensible three person God because God is so great he could do that. They will say we don’t have to understand it because we can’t and must not put limits on God. However, on the other hand, they will deny that God is great enough to be only be one person who is the father and the same person who is the son and the same person who is the holy spirit (even though that is how he describes himself.) God is not great enough to be and do that. In any case, the Trinitarian’s treat their god to only be as great and incomprehensible in the way and for the reason they imagine the God to be. Trinitarinas have no difficulty “seeing” (never mind they also claim it is impossible to fully understand) that God is three different persons (with three different minds and or three different locations with different amounts of knowledge, power and authority that send each other around) but they cannot, will not accept and would fiercely deny and claim that it is impossible for one God with one person, could just have three different modes bodies (physical/spiritual He occupies) of all the same person!?! You see God is only as Great and incomprehensible in the way and for they reasons that they say God is past (your) “feeble” human understanding, but they in their “humility”, accept that fact; and “be damned” what anyone or any scriptures have to say otherwise about it. \n\n\nThat part of the spirit of God that God considers to be his own right arm comes occupies and is “fussed” with human flesh in a way that the rest of God is not. The distinction is in that fact and the “additional sensations/existence” that human flesh/spirit fusion create, not a distinction in person. .......When someone goes to put a needle in my arm IT REACTS to pull back but my head tells it no stay there it is for the best….but only a fool would try to conclude that my right arm is a different person, even though it has “a will of its own” …Trinitarian attempt to deny what God plainly states about his own nature and “PERSON” based on the trinitarians “rational” arguments but build your whole God on the incomprehensible concept of three different person who are each God with different “god” powers and knowledge as only ONE GOD rather then what that really is which is three different Gods…...So [for trinitarians et al] they and their arguments attempt to convince everyone that the best most reasonable arguments from scriptures reach a conclusion that is “incomprehensible” and you must accept the truth of it as such while ignoring what and How God specificaly describe himself and accepting what God specifically denounces (God specifically denounces that he is multiple different persons see part 1 ) ....The right arm that God describes is just a figure of speech not to be taken too literally while the ideas that plainly contradicts God must be accepted as “plain truth”. ...These men PROV 26:12!?!\n\n\nPg15 …..YES JESUS DID CLAIMED TO BE GOD SPECIFICLY ( However it is right to say Jesus choose his words carefully because he did not want folks to focus on the flesh that was standing before them but rather the spirit that was animating that flesh) The problem is that even most Christians either do not know or do not care what GOD said about HIMSELF …Ergo the heresy of trinity….. The Righteous Right Hand of the Lord \"HE COMETH\"............ \" NO REALY ….'I AM HE'; IT’S JUST ME!!\".... The RIGHT ARM/HAND is what is REVEALED, …What is sent and comes to SAVE US, the “SALVATION REAVEALD”, that right arm comes and gets “THE VICTORY” and will “RULE”. That right arm/hand IS \"His RIGHTEOUS SERVANT\" that God “MADE BARE” and was “LIFTED UP/EXALTED” and thus “BARE THE SINS of many” !?!? This is the absolute strongest case for the fact that yes, JESUS DID CLAIM TO BE GOD, COME IN THE FLESH!!…\n\n\nPg 19…THE STRONGEST CASE…Some have asked where did Jesus specifically say \"I AM GOD\"...Ok, consider, If you ask me are you the preacher I might say yea \"I am he\"; that is just a generic reference that could apply to anything ....HOWEVER, Jesus is making specific scriptural references and laying claim to where GOD himself claimed to be \"I AM HE\" when he describes the right arm that would come......It was no different then if you ask someone right now are you that part of God that God called his own right arm? and they responded with \"I AM HE\" that would be same as them saying I AM GOD..I AM that right arm......The reference Jesus uses is a specific reference to being God......When Christ lays claim to “I AM HE” it was the same as saying God said about himself \" I AM HE\" …and you need to know and believe that “I AM HE” refers to me and as such is a specific claim to being God....!?! \n\n\nLest the subtleties of what is being said here escape you let me speak plainly: The “I am he” IS LITERALY the same person “me” that is going to send………….\n\n\nPg 36........ Christ is part of the omnipresent Spirit of God (that God considers to be His own right arm) attached to flesh but not limited to the confines of that flesh; connected in a way that the rest of God is not.. ….He (Jesus) is however, that part of God that God himself considers to be his own right arm that came in the flesh. ……..and the terms that God uses are the very ones that man who is made in his image are not just modalist but staunchly anti-trinitarian! His son is his right arm... …. before you scoff with Jesus was just a hand puppet of God (Gods right arm in human flesh) then consider you likewise are just as much a puppet of the soul/spirit that is in your flesh the only difference is that you are a different person (then God) who’s spirit is limited to the confines of your human flesh while Christ is part of the omnipresent Spirit of God (that God considers to be His own right arm) attached to flesh but not limited to the confines of that flesh; connected in a way that the rest of God is not. A SIMPLE THOUGHT EXERCISE WITH A HAND PUPPET ANIMATED BY YOU (THE UNSEEN BEHIND THE CURTAIN SPIRIT USING YOUR RIGHT HAND) EXPLAINS ALL THE “DIFFICULTY” UNDERSTANDING WITH SUCH PASSAGES as Jn 10:29-31; 12:49 et al\n\n\n~Pg61........Your spirit animates your body just as a puppet is animated by a hand in a puppet glove. (the spirit is the life what gives animation to the flesh) You can put your right hand into a glove or puppet and animate it. Your spirit is animating your physical flesh. The physical flesh is nothing more then a more complex puppet of your spirit. Jesus is nothing but that part of the spirit of God that came and occupied the same physical flesh as you and me and animated it in the same way that we are animated by our spirits. The difference is that our spirits were created by Jesus himself who is the father and God of all spirits. If you find the concept of Jesus as a puppet disturbing then just look in the mirror because that is what you are! ....\n\n\nPg 120 Everyday experience can explain the nature of God using the modalistic descriptions and allegories found in scripture with everyday experience. However, trinitarianism cannot be seen or understood in everyday experience and is in fact as admitted to in their own “confessions of faith” (and by virtue of their “God is so great we cant put God in a box, we just can’t understand it arguments/excuses) is admittedly “INCOMPREHSIBLE”.\n\n\nPg143….….But wait someone would say, I would never consider my right arm to be my son so why would God consider his right arm to be his son?...... Because of the physical birth of male human flesh that was born as a “son of man” (that was in fact God himself) and as such belongs to God. Was it Mary’s son or God’s son? It is simply a matter of perspective. The male child was born of a virgin but the male human flesh was animated or only had life via that part of God considered to be his own right arm and as such that male human flesh was literally the human flesh of God since it was A SON and God had no other human flesh (or son) it was literally the ONLY or unique birthed BEGOTTON SON (male human flesh) OF GOD (belonging to / the possession \"of God\") Jesus is a son because what was physical born was male human flesh and a son that was the possession of God because it was God in that male (son) human flesh .NOT because some other different god person who was not a powerful and knowledgeable as the father God person! .....Except you believe it you will die in your sins..\n\n\nPg 14 ..It is superfluous even fallacious to insist on a second person of God because a son must be a different person then a human father because Jesus did not have a human father and God does not take a wife and have children like men do ?!?!… God via the angel told Mary that what was going to be born was to be called the son of God, (NOTE: here in Heb it states “I WILL BE TO HIM A FATHER, AND HE SHALL BE TO ME A SON?) NOT because the servant/Right arm sent is a different person then the father who sent his right arm/ “My servant” the son. Jesus is a literal son by virtue of the birth into human flesh NOT by virtue of having a different person then the father. Further, it is important to understand that there was no son of God until the son was born however that part of God himself that He considers to be God’s own hand / right arm (by which he created all things and would latter send via a physical birth) had always existed. The fact that God has distinctions between father son and Holy Spirit is not any more incomprehensible then a man with a head and right arm (that comes to “man” via a physical birth ergo called the “son of man” & “Son of God”) and a sprit that animates them all. One might be tempted to think that God actually intended for us to understand his nature by using the very creation (even in the language and terminology) that was made in that image.\n\n\nPg 24-25…………Since man is made in the image of God you would think that folks would want to start with that concept to apply first, rather then invoking the number three or the word Trinity entirely unnecessarily, into a God that is quite clear about the fact that He is only one person..…My right hand IS me and is WITH me (Jn 1:1).….WOW, imagine that!?!? Distinctions are not multiple persons. The fact that God has distinctions between father son and holy spirit is not any more incomprehensible then a man with a head and right arm and a sprit that animates them all. One might be tempted to think that God actually intended for us to understand his nature by using the very creation (even in the language and terminology) that was made in that image……………………… Man is made in the image of God and God uses these exact terms to describe and define his nature. You right arm is distinct from your head...It is with you and it is you....Your head is greater then your right arm (the father is greater then I).....your right arm can only know, do and communicate what your head tells it to, (Jn 8:28) unless it feels pain and then it lets the head know...\"i do not like this\"...so the hand wants to pull away from the needle but your head tells it no stay there it if for the best. (not my will but thy will be done) Jesus is nothing more then that part of God that God considers to be his right arm come in the flesh. \n\n\nHow \"Ironic” (hypocritical) that Trinitarians will try to deny the scriptures use of God literally sending His right arm (even ridiculing that) because of its Anthropomorphic implications and yet that is the exact bases for all Trinitarian arguments. It is the anthropomorphic descriptors that the Trinitarian hypocrites try to use as reasons for arguing a demand for multiple/three different persons of God (ie. had to be multiple persons so that God was not praying to himself et al. The Question must be asked, “How many other Gods is there for the one God to pray [or swear] to?!?! God could swear by no greater then Himself, nor could their be any higher authority to hold God to his own oath...!?!) God is one person who only sent a part of himself called his right arm via a physical birth ergo called his son to teach us how to live pray, suffer and die to HIMSELF!?!....well, he certainly did not come to teach us how to pray and die to some other god????..... \n\n\nPg 83…SECOND: Lk 22:42 . Saying, Father, if thou be willing, remove this cup from me: nevertheless NOT MY WILL, but thine, be done. 43. And there appeared an angel unto him from heaven, strengthening him. ……………There are two different wills here so must be two different persons right? But the answer is far more simple then requiring a multiple personal headed god!?!\n: \nThat part of the spirit of God that is connected to flesh is distinct from the rest of the spirit of God that is not connected to that flesh thus the distinction between them as well as how the spirit of God wars against the flesh of GOD ..Example:\n\n\nGal 5:17. For the FLESH LUSTETH AGAINST THE SPIRIT, and THE SPIRIT AGAINST THE FLESH: and THESE ARE CONTRARY THE ONE TO THE OTHER:\n\n\nMat 26:41: the SPIRIT indeed is willing, but the FLESH is weak.\n\n\nRom 8:1 walk not AFTER the FLESH, but AFTER the SPIRIT…… 5. For they that are after the flesh do mind the THINGS OF THE FLESH; but they that are after the Spirit the THINGS OF THE SPIRIT.\n\n\nBut What fool would suggest that since my flesh and the new spirit inside of me are contrary to each other and want different things must mean that I am multiple different persons!?!? When someone goes to put a needle in my arm IT REACTS to pull back but my head tells it no stay there it is for the best….but only a fool would try to conclude that my right arm is a different person..even though it has “a will of its own” (see also the flesh lust agains the spirit and visa versa).. A distinction between the desires or “will” of the spirit and the desires “will” of the flesh or what the spirit wants and what the flesh wants does not make for different persons!?! \n\n\nThe only coherent and consistent way to apply all the scriptures is in and with the allusion to head and right arm the head that scriptures make just as your right arm is you and you are the head of your right arm it is with you and is you. The issue is not what God could do or what “great things” you can image that God could do, but rather what did God say about his self, His nature and how did God describe it. The Fact that God can do more then you image is not a valid argument for why God did everything you suggest in spite of what he clearly stated!?!\n\n\nMat 27:46:46. And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, MY GOD, MY GOD, WHY HAST THOU FORSAKEN ME?\n\n\nThis is truly an ironic passage for Trinitarians to attempt to use because Jesus is quoting Himself!?!\n\n\n1Peter 1:10. Of which salvation THE PROPHETS have inquired and searched diligently, WHO PROPHESIED of the grace that should come unto you:11. Searching what, or what manner of time THE SPIRIT OF CHRIST WHICH WAS IN THEM, when IT TESTIFIED beforehand the sufferings of Christ, and the glory that should follow……… 2Peter 1:21. For THE PROPHECY CAME not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as THEY WERE MOVED BY THE HOLY GHOST. \n\n\nWhat did that sprit of Christ testify?.....\n\n\nPsalms 22:1. MY GOD, MY GOD, why hast thou FORSAKEN ME? why art thou so far from helping me, and from the words of my roaring?\n\n\nJesus is the creator and God in the OT speaking to the prophets about himself. It was that same Jesus that quoted himself in the OT passages about his own suffering. Pay particular attention to all Psalms references (Lk 24:44)\n\n\nThe argument that tries to say that since Christ committed his spirit to the father at his death proves that Christ must be a different person then the father actually proves just the opposite!. However, it would be just as true to say that the spirit that was in Christ was that part of the sprit of God that God put into flesh and connected to the flesh in a way that the rest of the spirit of God (and thus the rest of God himself) was not. As such, that part of the spirit separated from (died to that flesh and went to the place of the grave called death that He himself had created) ….. On the other hand to claim that Jesus either was forsaken by God and or was a different person then the Father God in heaven leaves Jesus dead to his flesh as well as dead to (and separated from) the father (a physical death/separation as well as a spiritual death/separation from the rest of God) This creates two possibilities for those who argue for multiple different persons, both of which are heresy:\n\n\n(A) Jesus died and was separated from the rest of God and thus undeniably no matter what linguistic contortions of nonsense you use, created two different gods who were separated from each other and not the same person and no longer \"one\". They can’t be the same one God (or one being) if they are separated dead and or forsaken to each other!?! The reality s that part of God’s own spirit that came into human flesh also “visited” the place called death/ the grave a place that right arm created in the first place!?\n\n\n(B) Jesus ceased to be God so that there would only be ONE God.\n\n\nThus, once again the very argument that Trinitarians will try to use only condemns them as heretics and leaves them insisting that those are not the only possibilities because “with God all things are possible” (never mind that God is not the author of confusion and self contradictions either) or chalking up the incoherence of the arguments to: “Yea, can you believe it? Our God is such an awesome God” (he is and is not a different gods all at the same time!?!; We are pious [fools] because we don’t put limits on what God can do [no matter what God himself said about himself])\n\n\nSo to say that God cannot die is purely a matter of perspective it depends on what you mean by God died. In any case, it is God’s (possessive) son because that human flesh born into this world via women is a son (it is not a daughter) and belongs to God. It is God and no other person then the person who said he would send that part of himself that he considers to be his own right arm to animate/give life to that human flesh. Ergo: Son (male, son of man/women) of (belongs to) God. The idea that Jesus is a different person then the person who sent that part of himself into male human flesh born son of man is simply blasphemous! In any case, understanding “WHO” (what person) this Jesus is has everything to do with who and what God you serve.\n\nYou can download the complete FREE book from\nhttps://www.scribd.com/doc/305367608/The-Trinity-Heresy\nOR \nhttps://www.academia.edu/23463667/THE_TRINITY_HERESY",
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      "body": "But some will say “what About Gen “God said let us”………Summary:\n1. it actually states “ELOHIM said let us” ... while verse 26 uses the plural pronoun “us” it then uses the single pronouns “his” and “he” to reference God in verse 27. Thus, the argument that would claim God must be a plurality of persons because of verse 26 would also demand that God is a single person in verse 27. Logical coherence and or even so much as basic consistency are not values that the Trinitarians can afford to concern themselves (or anyone else,”…. never mind that man behind the curtain”) with too much.\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n2. The scriptures call angels and demons et al Elohim because the word is NOT a name but rather akin to a classification of life….Animal life….Human life…..Elohim life….Further the word Elohim is used in the very same way that the English word fish is used the same spelling of the word can refer to singular or plural, as in:…I have a FISH (singular Ex 4:16/ 7:1)…or…I have many FISH. (plural  Ps 95:3; 97:9; 82:1-7 et al) Note that the word Elohim also has a singular sense (see also Ex 4:16, 7:1). In the Ps references here we can also see that “ALL ELOHIM” demands that each one is a elohim. …. The comparison and contrast is also made in the fact that there are “OTHER ELOHIM” and God is above ALL those OTHER ELOHIM. …The fact that any language has different forms of the same word and or multiple different words that can all mean and or refer to the same definition does not invalidate the definition\n\nFISH can be used as SINGLAR or PLURAL\n\nFISHES is just another form of the word …The fact that the word Fishes exist does not prove that the word FISH is always singular!?!?  www.dictionary.com/browse/fishes\n\nElohim is SINGULAR or PLURAL…..the fact that there is another form of the word ELOAH proves nothing !?!\n\n\n\n3. Thirdly and most importantly, apparently either ignored or by virtue of absolute gross and inexcusable ignorance or willfully so but God has a conversation with a certain man, “in your KJV bible”,( or any of the other translations ) and lets him know that the angles were present and participating and doing work in the creation! In fact, God makes a point to tell this man that the man does not know the names of and or the “who did exactly what” during the creation. A king proclaiming work to be done before all of his servants: only a fool would doubt that He is talking to his servants and instead think he was only talking to himself.!?!? While it is true that God spoke some things into existence it is untrue that everything created was spoken into existence. Man was “formed” from the dirt that God had already created several days prior. Man was not spoken into existence he was first formed and then God breathed into the clay/dirt that had been formed. If we create machines to do work for us, then when the work is done WE not the machines claim and obtain all the credit\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nHow come so many are so ignorant of these scriptural facts?..and yet I know why……. it demonstrates 2Thess 2:11-12............... When God said He is ONE, there is no excuse for God In three persons…… Some would ask: “Does it means that angels is also a creator?”...NO why would it?..if you create a machine that can do work for you when the work is done YOU still get all the credit...God Created the angles (host of elohim; who also are always described looking like men because God created them with the same image that God himself is describe as having!?!) who in turn were involved in the creation process when God created the heavens and earth...Thus, although they (all the other elohim) were present and participating in the creation it was Lord Elohim (Lord of the Elohim who is himself Elohim; aka GOD) ALONE who gets ALL the credit because God created the angels and everything else...simple logic....the fact that the angels were present and participating is not mutually exclusive to God taking all the credit for the work any more so then a king takes the credit for building his empire even though his servants are involved in the work..they all do the work under the authority and power of the King and in this case it goes even further because in this case the King even created the servants that will be participating in the construction processes\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nWell Now,…………“Lets talk about ‘Us’”\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nPG 91- 92…….On “BEING” a PERSON……\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nThere a chasm of dichotomy between what (A) Trinitarins claim ….and (B) what they are doing in actuality ….. \n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n(1) the Trinitarian claim is that God is three different persons but still ONE being ( ASSERTION) \n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n(2) The Trinitarians three different persons is in REALITY three different beings. Because a person is “a being” and “a being” is a person. (REALITY)\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nSimply imagining that there is a compatible but diametrically opposed pole difference between “a being” and “a person” ....... the idea that one being could be three different persons who are not three different beings when a person is a being by definition then what is really at work here is a willful denial of reality in favor of someone’s imagination. \n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nThree different persons can NEVER be ONE IN NUMBER OF BEING…..in fact to suggest such is a oxymoron. A person is a being and three different persons is three different beings so to say God is three different persons who are one being is in fact to say (while trying to hide behind different terms that mean the same thing) \"God is three different beings who are one being\". It would be just like me trying to say I have one Vehicle that is three different cars. That is incoherent nosense!............ A rose by any other name is still a rose. Three different persons is three different beings a single being that is three different persons only exist in the minds of those that create and hold on to that idea. The scriptures never say such things and Man is made in the image of God and that image demonstrates no such thing. .....\n\n\nPG 17……The following diagram depicts three different animals, three different humans and the Trinitarian result of three different persons in a “godhead” (Three different persons who are each God is no different then three different persons who are all Human or three different pets that are all animals ) Bill, Jack and Jill are three different persons but \"NOT ONE HUMAN BEING\" (not one being).....Cat, Dog and Mouse are three different pets each with their own \"personality\" , They are \"NOT ONE ANIMAL\"(not one being)...............To claim that father son and holy spirit are three different persons is \"NOT ONE ELOHIM\".......nor is is ONE GOD\"..........Nor is it \"ONE DIVINITY\" ...............\n\n\n\nELOHIM, HUMAN & ANIMAL are all classifications of life they are not names. Refer back to 8 for the proof that many persons are called Elohim angels demons even dead people. The point of the chart should be very clear unless you are confused by the linguistic contortions and acrobatics of the doctrine of trinity which all things considered should not be so surprising since it is by definition \"INCOMPREHENSIBLE\" (incoherent & inconsistent) It is no wonder then that the thinking of those who cannot grasp the significance here is also \"INCOMPREHENSIBLE\" (incoherent & inconsistent) Running around calling three different cars “ONE VEHICLE” or “THE VEHICLE (“GOD HEAD”) does not force reality to conform to your \"confessions (or professions) of Faith\". A person is a “BEING” but three different persons is NEVER considered a being.....Likewise calling your three different god persons with different amounts of god knowledge wisdom and authority ONE God is simply delusional. (2 Thess 2: 11) Three gods is not one god no matter how much or how hard you confess it or want to believe that you only worship one God any more so then a prostitute, who claims/ confessing (ad nauseum) that pagan worship and or immoral practices are not immoral and that she denounces all forms of sexual immorality will not magically make the whoredom suddenly an expression of \"good works\"!?!.....ONE animal is ONE being....ONE PERSON is ONE BEING.....These kinds of arguments hold no water and only shows the lengths to which trinitarins will attempt at linguistic contortions to try to justify a incoherent and heretical position at any and all cost of reason, logic or scripture et al \n\n\n\n\nMarcellus of Ancyra (died c. 374AD) pointed out that the idea of the Godhead as three hypostases (hidden spiritual realities) came from Plato through the teachings of Valentinus, (c.100 - c.160) Valentinus taught that God is three hypostases and three prosopa (persons) each of the three persons being 1. the Father, 2. the Son and 3. the Holy Spirit: \n\n\n\"Now with the heresy of the Ariomaniacs, which has corrupted the Church of God ... These then teach three hypostases, just as Valentinus the heresiarch first invented in the book entitled by him 'On the Three Natures'. For he was the first to invent three hypostases and three persons of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit, and he is discovered to have filched this from Hermes and Plato.\"   …….Source: Marcellus, in Logan 2000:95/ AHB Logan: Marcellus of Ancyra (died c. 374AD) (Pseudo-Anthimus), On the Holy Church: Text, Translation and Commentary. Verses 8-9. Journal of Theological Studies, NS, Volume 51, Pt. 1, April 2000, p.95.\n\n\n“All things are three, and thrice is all: and let us use this number in the worship of the gods; for, as the Pythagoreans say, everything and all things are bounded by threes, for the end, the middle and the beginning have this number in everything, and these compose the number of the Trinity’ “ (Aristotle, Fourth Century B.C. quote taken from: Arthur Weigall, Paganism in Our Christianity, 1928, pp. 197-198)\n\n\n“It is generally, although erroneously, supposed that the doctrine of the Trinity is of Christian origin. Nearly every nation of antiquity possessed a similar doctrine. [The early Catholic theologian] St. Jerome testifies unequivocally, ‘All the ancient nations believed in the Trinity’ ” (Marie Sinclair, Countess of Caithness, Old Truths in a New Light, 1876 p. 382).\n\n\nCol 2:8. Beware lest any man SPOIL YOU THROUGH PHILOSOPHY and vain DECEIT, AFTER THE TRADITION OF MEN, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ. 9. For IN HIM DWELLETH ALL THE FULNESS OF THE GODHEAD BODILY\n\n\nThess 2:11. And for this cause GOD SHALL SEND THEM STRONG DELUSION, that they should believe a lie: 12. That THEY ALL MIGHT BE DAMNED WHO BELIEVED NOT THE TRUTH, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.\n\n\n2Tim 4:3. For the time will come when THEY WILL NOT ENDURE SOUND DOCTRINE; but after their own lusts shall they HEAP TO THEMSELVES TEACHERS, having itching ears; 4. And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and SHALL BE TURNED UNTO FABLES.\n\n\nInterestingly enough Valentinus himself would later be condemned as a Gnostic heretic for some of his other heretical teachings that the orthodoxy (which is just a fancy word for “popular”) did not accept. According to Clement of Alexandria as well as Valentinus himself, Valentinus claimed to have developed his ideas from Theodas or Theudas, who was said to be a disciple of St. Paul. \n\n\nActs 20:27 For I have not shunned to declare unto you all the counsel of God. 28. Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood. 29. FOR I KNOW THIS, THAT AFTER MY DEPARTING SHALL GRIEVOUS WOLVES ENTER IN AMONG YOU, NOT SPARING THE FLOCK. 30. ALSO OF YOUR OWN SELVES SHALL MEN ARISE, SPEAKING PERVERSE THINGS, TO DRAW AWAY DISCIPLES AFTER THEM. 31. THEREFORE WATCH, AND REMEMBER, THAT BY THE SPACE OF THREE YEARS I CEASED NOT TO WARN EVERY ONE NIGHT AND DAY WITH TEARS.\n\n\nMarcellus of Ancyra, like to attack his opponents by linking them to Valentinus: and apparently he believed that the idea of God existing in three hypostases as heretical. \n(On the Holy Church, 9) \n\"Valentinus, the leader of a sect, was the first to devise the notion of three subsistent entities (hypostases), in a work that he entitled On the Three Natures. For, he devised the notion of three subsistent entities and three persons — father, son, and holy spirit.\" Early Christian Writings: Valentinus\n\n\nConcerning Valentinus Tertullian states:\n\n\nValentinus had expected to become a bishop, because he was an able man both in genius and eloquence. Being indignant, however, that another obtained the dignity by reason of a claim which confessorship had given him, he broke with the church of the true faith. 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      "body": "TRYING TO APPLY OR INSISTING THAT A COMPOUND UNITY IS HOW ECHAD SHOULD BE UNDERSTOOD IN DEUT 6:4 IS PURELY THE RESULT OF ACADEMIC FOOLS TRYING TO PLAY ACROBATIC EXEGESIS AND DECEIVING UNSTABLE AND UNLEARNED MEN!?!\n\n\nMark 12:28. And one of the scribes came, ...., asked him, Which is the first commandment of all? 29. And Jesus answered him, The THE FIRST OF ALL THE COMMANDMENTS IS, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is ONE (HEIS) Lord:........IF YOU CANNOT PROPERLY GRASP THE CONCEPT OF “ONE GOD” (and “who” [what person] Jesus is) THEN ALL THE REST OF  YOUR THEOLOGY IS MOOT\n\n\nLinguistically, both the Hebrew and the Greek NT terms translated as “ONE” in various places to modify “God” as in “God is ONE” destroy all pretense to God in three different persons. \n\n\nThe word Echad is used almost IDENTICAL AS THE ENGLISH WORD \"ONE\"......... Both the words \"ONE\" and \"ECHAD\" refer to\n\n\n(a) ONE PERSON/ or item ONLY (Ezk33:24; Eccl 4:8)\n(b) multiple different persons who are acting as one (Gen 2:24)\n(c) multiple different parts of the same person or thing that act as one .(Ezk 37:17; Ez 2:64) .\n(d) While other possible uses for Echad exist such as “first” (e.g Isaiah 51:20); or “unique” in certain passages [e.g. based primarily on Job 23:13; Ez 7:1; 1Chron 17:21; 2Sam 7:23; et al] but none of these are relevant (nor necessary to debate the virtues of such as “unique”) because the same passage and word is used in the NT with specific Greek word where uses such as “first” or “unique” would not be accurate and or permissible\n\n\nThus the mere fact that the word echad is used anywhere does not demand any one of those definitions just by itself NOR CAN YOU CHERRY PICK A DEFINITION YOU WANT TO USE SUCH AS A \"COMPOUND UNITY\"!?!…. so WHICH ONE OF THESE USES IS THE CORRECT USE? \n\n\n\n\nThere are two FUNDAMENTAL AND DEVASTATING reasons why ECHAD in Deut 6:4 (or any of the other places where God is defined by that word) cannot refer to a compound unity. Each reason stands on its own not dependent on the other and either one destroys the Trinitarians.\n\n\nFIRST: \n\n\n(1) The word Echad can be used almost identical to the English word “ONE” it can refer to \n\n\n(a) NO COMPOUND UNITY of ONE a single solitary ONE PERSON ONLY (Ezk33:24; Eccl 4:8) …\n\n\nOR……. \n\n\n(b) COMPOUND UNITY : a husband and wife/ table and chairs as ONE which is a compound unity (Gen 2:24); Ezk 37:17; Ez 2:64 ) ….Thus the fact that God uses the word ECHAD does not show that God is a compound unity any more so then to say “I am ONE” shows that I am a compound unity nor does it prove that I should have said “I am ALONE”\n\n\nSo which is it in Deut 6:4? Well the same grammar rule that applies to (Ezk33:24; Eccl 4:8) applies to Deut 6:4 …Namely: \n\n\nIn Hebrew the word ECHAD must be accompanied by collective sets of nouns pronouns to identify as a compound unity in the same way the English word “ONE “ is used………..\n\n\nEXAMPLE A: ECHAD /ONE/ HEN used as a COMPOUND UNITY of ONE:\n\n\n-ENGLISH\nThe table/Husband and chairs/Wife are ONE\n\n\n-GREEK\nThe table/Husband and chairs/Wife are HEN \n\n\n-HEBREW\nThe table/Husband and chairs/Wife are ECHAD \n\n\nHERE IS WHERE : Echad in scripture used as multiple different persons who are acting as one (Gen 2:24) And or multiple different parts of the same person or thing that act as one .(Ezk 37:17; Ez 2:64)\n\n\nWhen the word Echad is used with reference to God it is NEVER qualified with multiple sets of pronouns/nouns WHICH IN HEBREW IT MUST in order to interpret or claim a compound unity exist and is almost identical in the way that the English word ONE does!?!?!? \n\n\nIf you say you have ONE/ECHAD table no compound unity Is under consideration period! …if on the other hand you say those legs and top fit together as ONE/ECHAD then and only then is a compound unity under consideration….This is true for the Hebrew word Echad …It must be accompanied by multiple pronouns and nouns to suggest or claim any compound unity is under consideration but it NEVER IS WHEN GOD IS THE SUBJECT!?!?\n\n\nEXAMPLE B ECHAD /ONE/ HEIS as a numeral singular ONE person place or thing with NO compound unity: \n\n\n-ENGLISH\nI have ONE table\n\n\n-GREEK\nI have HEIS table\n\n\n-HEBREW\nI have ECHAD table \n\n\nHERE IS WHERE : Echad in scripture used as ONE PERSON/or thing ONLY (Ezk33:24; Eccl 4:8) NO COMPOUND UNITY IS HERE EVEN THOUGH THE WORD ECHAD IS USED!\n\n\nSo, just as with the English word “ one” is defined by the context so too is the Hebrew word Echad defined by the context in which it is found. Collective sets of nouns/pronouns indicate a compound unity as in the table and chairs are “ECHAD”/ “one” ( set ) If on the other hand all you have is “one”/ “echad” table then there is not compound unity involved. When the Lord states that HE is one there is no compound unity under consideration because for there to be so then the OT text would have had to spell out that the Lord of he and I and him are “one” However, the OT context and sentence structure where Echad is used to describe God forbids any compound unity because for a compound unity to exist it must be qualified with a collective set of nouns/ pronouns, which it never is.\n\n\n\n\nNOTE: The word used in Deut 6:4 is Echad not Yachid nor does the existence of the word Yachid prove anything about how Echad is to be understood in Deut 6:4 \n\n\n(A) The fact that any language has different forms of the same word and or multiple different words that can all mean and or refer to the same definition does not invalidate the definition!?! (example I am ALONE …or I am BY MYSELF) This Trinitarian kind of argument is saying basically that since God could have used the word FORTOLD (yachid) but chose to use PROPHECY (Echad) instead therefore the word PROPHECY (Echad) can’t have/ be used with the same meaning as the word FORTOLD(yachid)!?!?! …Prov 26:12\n\n\nFISH can be used as SINGLAR or PLURAL\n\nFISHES is just another form of the word …The fact that the word Fishes exist does not prove that the word FISH is always singular!?!?  www.dictionary.com/browse/fishes\n\nElohim is SINGULAR or PLURAL…..the fact that there is another form of the word ELOAH proves nothing !?!\n\n(B) Since the word Echad can be used almost identical to the English word “ONE” it can refer to a single solitary NO compound unity of ONE(Ezk33:24; Eccl 4:8) …OR……. it can also refer to a husband and wife/ table and chairs as ONE which is a compound unity ((Gen 2:24); Ezk 37:17; Ez 2:64 ) ….Thus the fact that God uses the word ECHAD does not show that God is a compound unity any more so then to say “I am ONE” shows that I am a compound unity nor does it prove that I should have said “I am ALONE” if i intended that to be understood ….Trying to argue that God should have used this word Yachid instead of that word Ecahd if he wanted folks to understand that he is only one person is a ridiculous and self-righteous argument of cowards, fools and liars (trinitarians) ……Prov 26:12\n\nFurther and final note for this first part: “A compound unity” can refer to different parts of the same thing or person as well as different persons who are acting/ unified as one. So even if “a compound unity”  is assumed in Deut 6:4 that still would not demonstrate that God would be multiple different persons as opposed to having different modes/parts/manifestations that are unified together such as the different parts of the human body are all unified as one but only a fool should suggest that compound unity represented multiple different persons!\n\n\n\n\nSECOND \n\n\n(A) The same verse and words of Deut 6:4 are translated in the NT with specific Greek words that PROHIBIT and FORBID any more then ONE PERSON !?! Thus the NT writers understood ECHAD in Deut 6:4 NOT as a compound unity but as ONE person ONLY…..\n\n\nIn the NT two different Greek words are used to express those SAME BASIC SET OF DEFINITIONS found in the Hebrew word Echad or the English word \"ONE\" they are “Heis” & “Hen”\n\n\n“HEIS” (a) ONE PERSON ONLY This word demands a singular person (or item) when person (or item) is the object being quantified by that number. (NO EXCEPTIONS EXIST, not even in Gal 3:28!?!) This word is used thousands of time in the NT (even if you do not count the times it refers to God) and when it refers to persons it NEVER defines more then ONE single person period!\n\n\nJoseph Henry Thayer: “Heis” means the cardinal numeral ONE. Where the word “heis” takes the place of a predicate it means one person. (Page 186. A Greek, English Lexicon of the New Testament.)\n\n\nMr. A. T. Robertson: “One,” when masculine (heis) sets forth the idea of the cardinal numeral “one.” When referring to people or beings, ALWAYS the numeral “one” is implied. (Page 186 vol 5; pages 526 and 527, vol 4; page 299 vol 4. Word Pictures of the Greek New Testament.)\n\n\nBauer: The masculine “one” (heis) means, A single; only one. (Page 230 Bauer’s Greek Lexicon.)\n\n\nGingrich: The masculine “one,” (heis), is equivalent to ‘protos’ which means‘first’. Only one; single. (Page 57, Shorter Lexicon of the Greek New Testament).\n\n\n\n\n“HEN” (b) multiple different persons who are acting as one “HEN” (1Cor 3:6; Jn 11:52 et al)\n\n(c) multiple different parts of the same one person or thing that act as one (1Cor 12-14-20 the PARTS of the human body are ONE/ HEN et al)\n\n\nIN the NT when Deut 6:4 et al is referred to by Christ it is recorded as using the Greek word “HEIS”.NOT HEN!?!?....Thus Linguistically, destroys all pretense to God in different persons.......\n\n\nWhen two or more words or concepts equally apply have different possible meanings they can only logically apply in a way that they do not contradict each other.(you cannot appeal to self contradiction in terms to make a valid argument)..the Trinitarian argument is incoherent and certainly not consistent with itself. Logically The church members are \"Hen\" but cannot be \"heis\". so multiple persons is the demand. On the other hand, your head and right arm are both \"Hen\" and \"heis\" this can only be logically coherent as ONE PERSON with parts or parts of the same person. Likewise; Father and son are \"hen\" and God is ONLY and always \"heis\" logically they can only be one person in parts/portions of the same person\n\n\n(B ) The whole point to Gal 3:20. Now a mediator is not a mediator of one, but God is one, again, point blank, identifies the number of persons of God! The mediation is between multiple persons (“a party” of God and man); the “but” points out the contrast between the multiple persons in a mediation party verses the “one” of God; The “BUT” is making the point that God is not like a mediation party with multiple persons, God is ONE [person]!?! The one is contrasted against “a party” or multiple persons……….. No matter how one try’s to interpret the parties as individual persons with opposing views or as two different groups or parties (ie corporations) with opposing views, this verse makes a contrast between those meditations and parties which are “NOT ONE” (person), But God “IS ONE” (Person). Thus any attempt to lay claim that this verse does not destroy all contrary pretenses about the fact that God is only one person is willful ignorance and delusional nonsense of the greatest magnitude. \n\t\n\n(C) ~pg 51..There are two kinds of oneness one of purpose/Unity/ and one of Person and one kind of oneness does not exclude the truth of the other kind of oneness. They are NOT mutually exclusive. You can’t use one kind of oneness to make void the other with. If Christ is praying for one kind of oneness you cant then assume that well he must be denying the other kind of oneness. The fact is the father and the son just like a head and right arm are BOTH one in purpose/unity AND (as he states elsewhere in other context) one in person. Thus, pointing to passages such as these which use the word “HEN” and in the obvious context of unity of purpose/action/goal and speaks of the oneness of Jesus and the father in that unity wanting his disciples to also be in THAT UNITY just as the right arm (Jesus/son) and head (father) are in THAT UNITY does not have anything to do with the number of persons of God. Jesus is NOT asking that they be one in person nor is he denying that the son and father are one person. The only oneness (Jesus is praying for) under consideration here is the UNITY of parts/purpose/action NOT persons!?! Thus, these passages have nothing to do with the number of persons of God nor can it \"Quality\" the number of persons of God. In fact they are completely irrelevant in defining the number of persons of God except as an good example of Trinitarian faulty exegesis and logical fallacies..\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nSUMMARY:\n\n\nThere are two fundamental underlying arguments that destroy any and all trinitarian arguments/ comments to the contrary\n\n\n(A) The Hebrew grammar prevents ECAHD from having compound unity in specific verses\n(B) The Greek grammar prevents the same word translated into from having compound unity\n\n\nSince \"compound unity\" is NOT consistent with how the OT or NT writers used/ translated Deut 6:4 the word nor can echad be said to be only used or understood as “compound unity as such:\n……… TRYING TO APPLY OR INSISTING THAT A COMPOUND UNITY IS HOW ECHAD SHOULD BE UNDERSTOOD IN DEUT 6:4 IS PURELY THE RESULT OF AN ACADEMIC FOOLS TRYING TO PLAY ACROBATIC EXEGESIS AND DECEIVING UNSTABLE AND UNLEARNED MEN!?!…It is these trinitarin et al type arguments like the ones addressed here that demonstrate those who are making them are either woefully Incompetent or liars or the minions of other cowards who hopes no one can point them out for what they are.\n\n\nGod said he would CHOOSE send you STRONG DELUSIONS. I bet it never occurred to the trinitarians et al that God would ever use words in such a way as to allow folks like them to “get confused” (inexcusably so) or lied to and delude themselves with. (2Thess 2:11-12/Isa 66:4/1Kings 22:19-23/ 2Chron 18:18-22) Not only do they not know what they are talking about but the books and or people who are teaching these kinds of argument are cowards who know that they cant defend it so they create as many tape-recorded minions and send them out as one of their “students” so they can avoid the risk of embarrassment of being shown wrong and incompetent. But, don’t worry because they have a vey good reason (stupid reason) why you were not able to answer the anti- trinitarins as well as they themselves could have \"if it had been them\"!?!…However, if on the other hand no one is able to show these minions the foolishness of their arguments, then the Trinitarian scholars and “teachers” will congratulate the minions on how well they have been taught. I can hear Darth Sideous now: “you have been taught well, they will be no match for you”…..In other words THEY ( the Trinitarian “scholars” and liars who are teaching these arguments) are using you and in their eyes see you as “useful idiots” ……….or just “good minions” (like bob and Stewart) ….you can “see it” however makes you dandelions grow happy…..... …Prov 26:12\n\nYou can download the complete FREE book from\nhttps://www.scribd.com/doc/305367608/The-Trinity-Heresy\nOR \nhttps://www.academia.edu/23463667/THE_TRINITY_HERESY",
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      "body": "it is rather ironic that you cite Jn 8:24 ...because that is the point \n\nPg 71 ….Trinitarianism is just as Anti-Christ as much as is ISLAM, JW, LDS, ROMAN CATHOLIC et al because (they all confess the Christ/messiah came in the flesh, Yes even Islam claims Jesus was the Jewish messiah/Christ who was to come) they all deny WHO it was (what person) that came (to be the Christ) in the flesh!?!....[ \"WHO\" it was (what person) that came \"IN THE FLESH\", IS THE DETERMINING FACTOR IN WHAT IT MEANS TO BE “ANT-CHRIST”! To deny the father is to deny the son because they are one and the same person that came in the flesh!\n\n(1)\tGod uses specific words that demand ONLY ONE PERSON\n(2)\tGod uses specific descriptions that demand ONLY ONE PERSON\n(3)\tGOD specifically uses what some call a heresy namely modalism to describe father and son\n(4)\tJesus specifically claims to be the father and the father specifically claims to be the son et al   \n(5)\tMan is made in the image of God and it is that image that God specifically describes himself and father and son  a man can be a father and son but God can be his own son ….. because what makes and defines a father and what makes defines a son has NOTHING TO DO with how many different persons are present!?!?\n\nTo deny who is the person of the man Jesus is to deny who the person of the father is because they are the same person. If they were not the same person then a denial of one person would not be a denial of the other person automatically because by definition two different persons are not synonymous. The whole point to these passages is showing that the person of the son and the father are synonymous. The fact that you confess that a man named Jesus was the son of God does not acknowledge the person of the son and the person of the father. The son is the word of God to deny the word is to deny the father who sent that word. To deny the word of God (the son) is to deny the God (father) who sent that word. Even if you were still unsure that the father and the son were the same person, you would still be left with the unavoidable fact that if the father and the son are the same person, then to deny who is the person of the father is to deny who is the person of the son and to deny who is the person of the son is to deny who is the person of the father. Thus, as a Trinitarian there could be no expectation of salvation as an anti-Christ. \n\n\nJohn 14: 8. Philip saith unto him, Lord, SHEW US THE FATHER,.. 9. Jesus saith unto him, HAVE I BEEN SO LONG TIME WITH YOU, AND YET HAST THOU NOT KNOWN ME, Philip? he that hath SEEN ME HATH SEEN THE FATHER; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father?  The \"oneness\" between Christ and the father is not comparable to a man and his wife, for only a fool would say \"When you have seen me you have seen my wife, how sayest thou then, Shew us your wife?\" Notice they asked to see THE FATHER and the response was Jn 14:9 ..“HAVE I BEEN SO LONG time with you, and yet hast THOU NOT KNOW ME, Philip.....Now image some fool trying to claim that statement if you asked to see his wife!?!!? The whole point to Christ statements is that he is the SAME person as the father [you want to see the FATHER but have I been with you but you don’t know me!?!?!]” \n\nNOW WE GET TO THE HOLY SPIRIT:\n\n…………..17. Even THE SPIRIT OF TRUTH; (Jn 14:6 I AM the way, THE TRUTH,) whom the world cannot receive, .. for HE DEWLLETH WITH YOU, (present tense/standing next to them in the flesh) and SHALL BE IN YOU... (future tense “In them”)  18. I will not leave you comfortless: I WILL COME TO YOU (future tense “In them”) Note: The spirit of Christ is the sprit of God and the holy spirit that is why Christ said “I will come to you” (to comfort them, because Christ is the comforter).  The spirit was standing next to them in flesh... ....latter it would come to them to be inside of them (inside of their flesh as the spirit we are given).....that is why. he would send the spirit...... However, Jesus himself here makes the point that the same person who was the HOLY SPIRIT that would come was standing next to them but lets them know “I will come to you again to be Inside of you” The present condition was external to them but in the flesh dwelling with them but, the future condition would be internal to them .. Rom 8:9 When you “see” or “pray” to the father (in the name of the father covered further in Ch 7) you are “seeing” and praying to Jesus and visa versa and Jesus will be the one to “come” and answer because father and son are just different  parts/manifestations of the same person!?\n\n\n\nJames 2:19. Thou believest that there is ONE GOD; thou doest well: THE DEVILS ALSO BELIEVE, and tremble. \n\nFirst notice that James makes a point of stating a belief in ONE GOD as opposed to the pagan practices of that day of worshiping multiple different persons as one of multple different persons who are god... Trinitarins do not even have a claim to believing that there is one God, Calling your pantheon one God does not magically make the pantheon of god persons disappear or force reality to conform to your “confessions of faith”!?! Three different persons who are each god with different amounts of god knowledge power and authority does not fool anyone except the fools who will believe that the three are one and one is three and you have called on the name of the Lord because, well…..you confessed all of that, so it must be true. Now the words of Christ are spirit (Jn 6:63 …the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.) the words of Christ only describe and define God as “ONE” and as we shall see in chapter six a specific Greek word that ONLY refers to ONE person when speaking of individuals. It is outright willful blatant stupidity to attempt to claim that God is an individual of three different persons and the spirit that claims God is three different persons is NOT the spirit of Christ!\n\nGod had NO SON before Christ was born........ it makes this point clear in the OT as well as in the NT period! ..But YES JESUS HAD ALWAYS EXISTED!?!\n\nOT…..Ecclesiastes 4:8. There is ONE ALONE, and there is NOT A SECOND; yea, HE HATH NEITHER CHILD (BEN/SON) nor brother: yet is there no end of all his labour; neither is his eye satisfied with riches; neither saith he, For whom do I labour, and bereave my soul of good? This is also vanity, yea, it is a sore travail.....................(Solomon here is mentioning in his discourse  and making reference to  GOD  as comparison/ contrast to the vanity of men....Solomon here is NOT talking about  himself nor is he talking about some or any old lonely man that happens to be out there.... i only mention this because i get the most ridiculous comments sometimes)......................\n\nNT……Heb 1:5 Thou art my Son, THIS DAY (at a certain point & specific day)………. HAVE I BEGOTTEN THEE? And again, I WILL BE TO HIM A FATHER, AND HE SHALL BE TO ME A SON? 6. And again, WHEN HE BRINGETH IN The first begotten into the world ............ ?\n\nJohn 17: 4-5 does not help the trinitarians because as demonstrated JESUS has ALWAYS Existed but NOT always as a son and John 17: 4-5 does not say that Jesus was a son before the world began it ONLY speaks to the fact that Jesus who is the son was in existence with the father before the foundation of the world....Again trinitarian faulty exegesis. They like to ignore the plain scriptures in favor of oblique references and interpret them in a way that directly contradicts clear passages and even though John 17:4-5 is still just as true just as describe here as the right arm of God that would latter come and be born into male (son) human flesh .....The male child was born of a virgin but the male human flesh was animated or only had life via that part of God considered to be his own right arm and as such that male human flesh was literally the human flesh of God since it was A SON and God had no other human flesh (or son) it was literally the ONLY or unique birthed BEGOTTON SON (male human flesh) OF GOD (belonging to / the possession \"of God\") Jesus is a son because what was physical born was male human flesh and a son that was the possession of God because it was God in that male (son) human flesh .NOT because some other different god person who was not a powerful and knowledgeable as the father God person! .....Except you believe it you will die in your sins..\n\nThere is alot of perspective that folks seem to gloss over and do not consider. Of course Jesus has always existed because Jesus is nothing but that part of the spirit of God considered his right hand that God would send and put into flesh via a physical birth…However, from another perspective it is just as equally true that, Jesus the man ( “son of man”/ “son of God”) did not exist before he was born into the flesh (ergo Ps 2:7…this day have I begotten thee; Lk 1:35. )….because before he was born into the flesh he was just God specifically the right arm of God that was promised to come latter. That part of God that God would send into flesh has always existed but that part of God has not always existed in flesh or as a man!?!.....Thus when folks argue over or point fingers on whether or not Jesus existed before he was born into the physical world has everything to do with perspective. No man (or “son of man”) existed for all of eternity prior to the time before God(Jesus) created Man….There was only God (Jesus) who created man and all things…This brings us to another important point and concept to understand. Man is a spirit animating flesh. When God put himself  (that part of his eternally existent self)  into flesh via a physical birth then God literally became a man and a son. That son of man did not exist prior to the point that man was born. However, that part of the spirit of God that was born into that flesh had always existed because it is God in the same way that if I put my right hand into a leather glove (of human flesh) that part of me that is put into that leather glove existed before during and after it leaves that leather glove of flesh. Never the less, the man did not exist until the male human flesh (son) Jesus was born. The God which is the spirit because God is a spirit and Jesus is God had always existed before he was born into the world but he did not exist as a man (or “son of man”) prior to the time that he himself as God created man/ “son of man”!?! Before the son came into the world he was only considered to be the right hand of God, that would come and when it did he would be called the only begotten son of God, for the very reason that while many have been called \"sons of God\" Jesus was the ONLY BEGOTTEN son God had via a human women!?!?",
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      "body": "There is a sharp contrast between three groups :\n \n(1) \"PREDESTINED DAMNED\" who were NEVER written in the book of life ………..Rev 17: WHOSE NAMES WERE NOT WRITTEN IN THE BOOK OF LIFE FROM THE FOUNDATION OF THE WORLD, ……EPH 1: 4. According as he hath CHOSEN US in him BEFORE THE FOUNDATION OF THE WORLD (a sharp contrast between those whose names were in the book of life from before the foundation of the world and those who were never written in that book of life )\n \n(2) \"MANY CALLED\"= ONLY and ALL SAINTS (those who come to Christ) these are those who were written in the book of life (only these are “the called”) … Philippians 4:3…WHOSE NAMES ARE IN THE BOOK OF LIFE………Rev 21:27;\nThese are the MANY that are CALLED /ELECT (Only saints are Called and elect; Rom 1:6-7 et al) This is THE CHRUCH and ONLY these can have their names blotted out of the book of life ….….Heb 12:23 to the general assembly and CHURCH of the firstborn … WHICH ………are WRITTEN in heaven,\n \n(3) \"FEW CHOOSEN\" =Those saints who were in group #2 who are now physically dead. They did not get blotted out of the book of life. the were the FEW that were chosen faithfull.......Rev 3:5. ……; and I will not BLOT OUT HIS NAME OUT OF THE BOOK OF LIFE, (Ps 69: 28. Let them be blotted out of the book of the living, and not be written with the righteous...... 36. The seed also of his servants shall inherit it: and they that love his name shall dwell therein.)    ….These are the FEW that are CHOSEN……..\n\n \n\nBoth \"FREE WILL\" and \"SOVEREIGN GRACE\" (reformed theology) Folks make the SAME error..They conceptualize two groups only (the saved and the lost) then then argue over the reasons why everyone is in one of those two groups.......BUT the scriptures describe three groups of people and it makes all the difference in the world because two groups only will always create contradictions...\n \ndownload the complete doc here\n \n https://www.scribd.com/doc/306868420/Most-True-Christians-Go-to-Hell\n\n\nOR\n\nhttps://www.academia.edu/25217564/Most_True_Christains_Go_to_Hell\n \nSOME (NOT ALL) OTHER KEY POINTS MADE ARE:\n \nFIRST: Christ did NOT die for everyone., but rather ONLY for HIS PEOPLE/ THE ELECT/ “THE CALLED and is the whole point and reason for:\n\n Limited atonement is true and the whole point to:\n\n2Peter 2:20. THE LATTER END IS WORSE WITH THEM THAN THE BEGINNING. …\n\nHeb 10:26. .: 29. OF HOW MUCH SORER PUNISHMENT, suppose ye, SHALL HE BE THOUGHT WORTHY, WHO HATH TRODDEN UNDER FOOT THE SON OF GOD, and hath COUNTED THE BLOOD OF THE COVENANT, WHEREWITH HE WAS SANCTIFIED, AN UNHOLY THING, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?\n \n………….. if Christ blood was shed for all men living on planet earth even those who would never came to Christ in the first place, they too would have trodden under foot the son of God and counted that blood of his covenant (which was shed for them also presumably) an unholy thing. But the fact is there is a difference between those who were purchased with that blood and latter reject it and those who were never purchased with that blood. They are worse off because they did something the damned had not done which is to treat the blood that bought them with spite…This blood is not for everyone it is only for those that are called and everyone is not called. This is also why they can and most are blotted OUT of the book of Life (The names are written in it before the foundation of the world) If everyone living on planet earth had been purchased with the blood of Christ or if Christ had died for everyone on planet earth then there would be no difference in the blood of Christ for the saint who reprobates and the sinner who never comes to Christ because both would have treated the blood of Christ spitefully.\n \nMARK 14:24.  And he said unto them, This is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for MANY. ( not everyone; also note: “MANY are called few are choosen”)\n \nGod does not call everyone and some people were NEVER “called” and NEVER written in the book of life....only those who God “CALLED”/the elect can be blotted out of the book of life....\n\n                                        \n.\n -God does NOT love everyone scripture point blank mentions people God hates not just the sin he hated them before they ever did any good or evil; many were created for damnation\n \n-Jesus did NOT die for every person who has or will ever live and those teaching the nonsense that he did have absolutely no business teaching or preaching\n \n-There is the world that “God so loved” and there is the world that God hates!.... It not the roman world or the world of the Maya but the WORLD spoken of in the law and prophets .....oh yea That world!?!\n \n- The fact that some were destined for damnation and some were selected to be saved is what the doctrine of ELECTION IS!?! God could have done things differently (you could have been born at a different time and place and or the method could have been different; Unless of course you think you are so inherently good that you would be a follower of Christ no matter what your circumstances could possibly have been; that would be hubris of the greatest magnitude. Mat 11:21 et al) and gotten a completely different set of “saved folks” then the set he has Chosen so When God selected how he was going to do things and knowing the outcome before hand (by name who would be saved and who would be damned) then HE not you decided who would and would not be saved and who would just be damned period without any hope. \n\n\nAny and all arguments that pretend a dichotomy between the method of salvation or the way of salvation verses Who would and would not be saved (by name) are non-sequiturs. Both are mutual imperatives they are not mutually exclusive. The fact that some were destined for damnation and some were selected to be saved is what the doctrine of ELECTION IS!?! God could have done things differently (you could have been born at a different time and place and or the method could have been different; Unless of course you think you are so inherently good that you would be a follower of Christ no matter what your circumstances could possibly have been; that would be hubris of the greatest magnitude. Mat 11:21 et al) and gotten a completely different set of “saved folks” then the set he has Chosen so When God selected how he was going to do things and knowing the outcome before hand (by name who would be saved and who would be damned) then HE not you decided who would and would not be saved and who would just be damned period without any hope. Grasping this fully requires a certain kind of humility that goes well beyond just the fact your “really sweet old man/women who would not hurt a flee”.\n\n\n...........................YOU CANNOT DETERMINE WITHOUT FOREKNOWING and likewise YOU CANNOT FOREKNOW ALL POSSIBILITIES AND CHOOSE ONE PATH WITHOUT HAVING DETERMINED ALL. They are not mutually exclusive logically they cannot be. One is subordinate to the other and this is the point to the INDIVIDUALS NOT GROUPS addressed and used as examples here in:\n \nRom 9: 11. (For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God ACCORDING TO ELECTION might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth;) …… 13. As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated……15. For he saith to Moses, I WILL HAVE MERCY ON WHOM I WILL HAVE MERCY, and I WILL HAVE COMPASSION ON WHOM I WILL HAVE COMPASSION. 16. So then it is NOT OF HIM THAT WILLETH, NOR OF HIM THAT RUNNETH, …. 17. For the scripture saith unto Pharaoh, Even for this same purpose have I raised thee up, that I might shew my power in thee, and that my name might be declared throughout all the earth.. 18. THEREFORE HATH HE MERCY ON WHOM HE WILL HAVE MERCY, AND WHOM HE WILL HE HARDENETH. 19. Thou wilt say then unto me, WHY DOTH HE YET FIND FAULT? FOR WHO HATH RESISTED HIS WILL? 20. Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it, Why hast thou made me thus? 21. Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour? 22. What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering THE VESSELS OF WRATH FITTED TO DESTRUCTION……..\n \nThe word fitted to destruction here does not mean fit or deserving of destruction NO it means CREATED FOR DESTRUCTION! Prov 16:4 The Lord hath made all things for himself: yea, EVEN THE WICKED FOR THE DAY OF EVIL.………………Job 21:30. That THE WICKED IS RESERVED TO THE DAY OF DESTRUCTION? they shall be brought forth to THE DAY OF WRATH.\n \nThe fact that some were destined for damnation and some were selected to be saved is what the doctrine of ELECTION IS!?! God could have done things differently …………..(you could have been born at a different time and place and or the method could have been different; Unless of course you think you are so inherently good that you would be a follower of Christ no matter what your circumstances could possibly have been; that would be foolish hubris of the greatest magnitude. Mat 11:21 God decided when those people were born and or when Christ would manifest himself to others not the people of Sodom…if only they had been born latter or Christ earlier but alas they were lost)\n \n…………….God could have done things differently and gotten a completely different individual named “saved folks” then the individuals he has Chosen to save. So When God selected how he was going to do things and knowing the outcome before hand ……….(by individual name who would be saved and who would be damned but otherwise could have been saved) ………then God not man decided and choose who would and would not be saved (BY INDIVIDUAL NAME) and who would just be damned period without any hope that otherwise could have been saved if only the situation had been a little different. Grasping this fully requires a certain kind of humility that goes well beyond just the fact your “really sweet old man/women who would not hurt a flee”.\n \nThose that deny individual predestination should expect to find themselves on the “HELL FIRE” end of that predestination program and plan that God is working even now…...\nAlso at that same site you can get updated alternate versions of the parallel passages charts also\n \nUhoo…..Time to wake up everyone those are only fairy-tales about a Jesus who loves everyone such that anyone can be saved even ignoring the fact that Jesus taught that most Christians who come to him will be rejected in the end and blotted out of the book of life ….so better not get to comfortable in your “Christian walk” and “your church life”\n \nThere is a contrast between the world that God so loved and there is the World that God HATES......It not the roman world or the world of the Maya but the WORLD spoken of in the law and prophets .....oh yea That world!?!\n\n \n \n\n\n\nhttps://www.scribd.com/doc/306416921/Alternate-Charts-for-Most-Christians",
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      "body": "SECOND COMING Thou Fool! “I come quickly” so \"Hold fast till i come\"... NOT ...“in another 2000 yrs I might be coming soon any time now, so hold fast”!?! ...those that deny the second coming of Christ in that first generation are practicing a damnable heresy in denying the lord that bought them ( 2Peter 2:1-2 ;2Tim 4:8)……. If I said I am coming to your house in this generation when these things happen but no one knows the day or hour  what fool would think I might be coming in 2000 years latter!?!?  ..2 Tim 4: 4. And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be TURNED UNTO FABLES. \n\t\nThe following quote from Bertrand Russell:is often quoted by Atheist et al and from his published work “Why I Am Not A Christian” \nDefects in Christ's Teaching\nHaving granted the excellence of these maxims, I come to certain points in which I do not believe that one can grant either the superlative wisdom or the superlative goodness of Christ as depicted in the Gospels; and here I may say that one is not concerned with the historical question. Historically it is quite doubtful whether Christ ever existed at all, and if He did we do not know anything about him, so that I am not concerned with the historical question, which is a very difficult one. I am concerned with Christ as He appears in the Gospels, taking the Gospel narrative as it stands, and there one does find some things that do not seem to be very wise. For one thing, he certainly thought that His second coming would occur in clouds of glory before the death of all the people who were living at that time. There are a great many texts that prove that. He says, for instance, \"Ye shall not have gone over the cities of Israel till the Son of Man be come.\" Then he says, \"There are some standing here which shall not taste death till the Son of Man comes into His kingdom\"; and there are a lot of places where it is quite clear that He believed that His second coming would happen during the lifetime of many then living. That was the belief of His earlier followers, and it was the basis of a good deal of His moral teaching. When He said, \"Take no thought for the morrow,\" and things of that sort, it was very largely because He thought that the second coming was going to be very soon, and that all ordinary mundane affairs did not count. I have, as a matter of fact, known some Christians who did believe that the second coming was imminent. I knew a parson who frightened his congregation terribly by telling them that the second coming was very imminent indeed, but they were much consoled when they found that he was planting trees in his garden. The early Christians did really believe it, and they did abstain from such things as planting trees in their gardens, because they did accept from Christ the belief that the second coming was imminent. In that respect, clearly He was not so wise as some other people have been, and He was certainly not superlatively wise.\n\n\n\nDOWNLOAD FREE THE ENTRIE 480PG BOOK AT SEVERAL LOCATIONS \n\n\nhttps://www.scribd.com/doc/305366745/Revelation-the-First-Gospel-of-the-Kingdom \n\nor\n\n\nhttps://www.academia.edu/23464127/REVELATION_THE_FIRST_GOSPEL_OF_THE_KINGDOM \n\n\nGal 1: 8. But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.\n\nThe book of Revelation offers us an interesting Theological dilemma. It states Rev 22:16. I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. Revelation also states it is “the true sayings” of Jesus and that it is “the testimony of Christ”. If this is not “the gospel of Jesus Christ” then what is it and should we consider it accursed testimony of an angel? If it is not to be considered accursed, then it cannot be some other gospel message then what was already given previously. However, this is the conundrum, for if this is the gospel message, then why do so few understand it? There is a possibility which few consider but is the overall thesis of this apology. The reason people don’t understand revelation is because they never understood what the gospel message was in the first place! In that case, where does that put those who claim it is not essential for salvation? Do you not find it quite curious that the most \"Personally\" given NT book By Jesus himself, is the least understood and given the least importance for Salvation in Christendom?....There are numerous preachers and bible exegetes but as Paul said “… I bear them record that they have a zeal of God, but not according to knowledge” . Most who profess the name of Christ are feeding on doctrines of devils and the ignorant.. There are, without question, many “qualified” teachers and scholars with many years of “dedication” and “solid education”. However, teachers, no matter how well lettered or numbered in degrees; if obtained from others; who are just as equally ignorant in such matters, are just “ blind leaders of the blind. And if the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the ditch.”..................\n\n\n\n\n\na large file ~15mb but basically the same as the published book \n\nhard copies can be obtained via \nREVELATION THE FIRST GOSPEL OF THE KINGDOM\n978-1-4907-0590-3 (SC ISBN)\n978-1-4907-0591-0 (EBOOK ISBN). \n\nwww.amazon.com/Revelation-The-First-Gospel-Kingdom/dp/1490705902/ \n……….. so you can print out the sections and do the “workbook activities” \n\nhttps://revelationthefirstgospelofthekingdom.wordpress.com/ \nhttps://plus.google.com/105723856121856218384   \nhttps://seen.life/21904969allen-daves/profile \nhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/allen-daves-62ab3524   \n\nYOU DON’T EVEN KNOW WHAT THE GOSPEL IS…\n\nThe idea that 1 cor 15:1-4 is \"the gospel in a nutshell\" demonstrates what Peter said about the woefully and or willfully ignorant and what they do with Paul's doctrine, writings and the scriptures.\n2Peter 3:15. … even as our beloved brother PAUL … 16. As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which THEY THAT ARE UNLEARNED AND UNSTABLE WREST, as they do also the other scriptures, UNTO THEIR OWN DESTRUCTION.\n\n\nJesus went around for about 3.5 years preaching the gospel and hardly ever mentioned his death burial and resurrection and NEVER “Made known” (mentioned) his death burial and resurrection until much latter after the gospel was being preached…because death burial and resurrection were the sign that the gospel he was preaching was true and Jesus was not PREACHING Death burial and resurrection...\n  \nMat 4: 23. And Jesus went about all Galilee, teaching in their synagogues, and PREACHING THE GOSPEL OF THE KINGDOM, (MK 1:1 & 14)\n  \n (1) Jesus NEVER \"mentions\"  his death burial and resurrection  until much latter AFTER THE GOSPEL had been preached so how is death burial and resurrection the gospel??? ..Even in Jn 2:18-19 Jesus did not “Make known” /MENTION his death burial and resurrection until much latter after the gospel was being preached.........Jesus did MENTION a temple in Jn 2:18-19) he did not \"mention\" a death or resurrection.....So, in this case \"to mention\" implies \"to make known\" or relay knowable information not coded language that no one can understand until after the fact....as opposed to Mat 16:21. FROM THAT TIME FORTH BEGAN JESUS (Mark 8:29-31) to SHEW unto his disciples, how that he must go unto Jerusalem, and suffer many things of the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and be raised again the third day...............look here: \n\n\n\n\n(2) death burial and resurrection of Jesus was ONLY THE SIGN that the gospel message that Christ preached was true\n\n\nFIRST:  Jesus only gives as a SIGN  a temple and Jonas …no mention of death and resurrection it is only understood as such after the event.\n\nJohn 2:18…..WHAT SIGN sign shewest thou unto us,… Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.\n\n…..and again here\n \nMat 12:39. … and there shall no sign be given to it, BUT THE SIGN of the prophet Jonas: 40. …so shall THE SON OF MAN BE THREE DAYS AND THREE NIGHTS IN THE HEART OF THE EARTH. (Lk 11:29)\n\n\nLATTER:   JESUS MENTIONS (makes known) his death & resurrection\n\nMat 16:21. FROM THAT TIME FORTH BEGAN JESUS to SHEW (Mark 8:29-31) unto his disciples, how that he must go unto Jerusalem, and suffer many things of the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and be raised again the third day...............look here:\n\n\nThe death and resurrection is ONLY referenced (in code) as A SIGN  that the gospel Jesus was preaching/ explaining was true…JESUS WAS NOT PREACHING (explaining about) death and resurrection!  Jesus ONLY begins talking/make known his death burial and resurrection LONG after he had been preaching the gospel so how can death burial and resurrection be the gospel if it was never mentioned when the gospel was FIRST PREACHED?!? (MK 1:1 & 14)\n\n\n\nPaul, first begins mentioning THE GOSPEL specifically by name in Ch 1 NOT CH 15 !?!\n\n\n\n\n1Cor 1:6. Even as THE TESTIMONY OF CHRIST (the GOSPEL) ….. 7. … WAITING FOR THE COMING OF OUR LORD …….the rest of Ch 15 all speaks to the coming of Christ NOT the death burial and resurrection which was ONLY a sign!?!? Latter when Paul gets to CH 15 most of what is in that chapter is focused the gospel message on the 2nd coming NOT the cross or death burial and resurrection which was the only sign given to validate that gospel which is why Paul mentioned it first because it validated everything that came afterward...when you approach a city the sign is what validates your on your way and is the first thing you see but only a fool would consider the sign the city!?!?\n\n\nPaul makes clear what the Gosple he preaches is..........\n\n\n2 Thess 2:1. Now WE BESEECH YOU, (preach/teach/ encourage you) brethren, BY THE COMING OF OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST (by the GOSPEL) AND BY OUR GATHERING TOGETHER UNTO HIM, (NOTE: 1Cor 15 is predominantly about this NOT death burial and resurrection!?!)……. … 14. Whereunto he called you BY OUR GOSPEL …………………..because the coming is the gospel\n\n\n\n\n2Thess 3:5. And the Lord DIRECT YOUR HEARTS into the love of God, AND INTO THE PATIENT WAITING FOR CHRIST...........................Also take note of the fact that What Christ first preached when he preached the gospel was about repentance because the kingdom was at hand and God/he was going to reward his servants but punish the wicked.....THIS coming was the Gospel message and his death and resurrection validated that everyone should belive in his Gospel ......\n\n\nAND HERE IS WHY\n\n\n\n\n....its destruction is so important to Daniel and putting a end of sin the blood of the NT covenant could not be offered not the temple in heaven until the first temple of the first covenant was destroyed\n\n\nThe new covenant is what is being CONSUMMATED in DAN and THAT WHICH IS PERFECT that was coming. this is why it reads:\n\n\nDan 9: 24. SEVENTY WEEKS ARE DETERMINED upon thy people and upon thy holy city, TO FINISH THE TRANSGRESSION, and to MAKE AN END OF SINS, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy. …….26. the prince that shall come shall …………\n\n\n(A)….. DESTROY THE CITY AND THE SANCTUARY (AD70) and THE END THEREOF SHALL BE WITH A FLOOD …\n\n\n(B) …UNTO THE END OF THE WAR DESOLATIONS ARE DETERMINED. 27. And he shall CONFIRM THE COVENANT WITH MANY FOR ONE WEEK: and\n\n\n(A) …IN THE MIDST OF THE WEEK (AD 70) HE SHALL CAUSE THE SACRIFICE AND THE OBLATION TO CEASE……he shall\n\n\n(B) …MAKE IT DESOLATE, EVEN UNTIL THE CONSUMMATION, ( 1 Cor 13:10. But when THAT WHICH IS PERFECT IS COME)\n\n\nMat 5:1818. For verily I say unto you, TILL HEAVEN AND EARTH PASS, ONE JOT OR ONE TITTLE SHALL IN NO WISE PASS FROM THE LAW, TILL ALL BE FULFILLED.\n\n\nHeb 9:8. The Holy Ghost this signifying, that THE WAY INTO THE HOLIEST OF ALL WAS NOT YET MADE MANIFEST, WHILE AS THE FIRST TABERNACLE WAS YET STANDING:…… .28. So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him SHALL HE APPEAR THE SECOND TIME WITHOUT SIN UNTO SALVATION.\n\n\nSacrifice and offering do not cease until THE WAR (of AD70) ac when the first temple ( temple under the first covenant) is destroyed\n........this war is also THE FLOOD refereed to in Mat 24:39 et al.\n\n\nTHIS IS WHY NO ONES SINS WERE BLOTTED OUT UNTIL THE WAR OF AD 70 .......\n\n\n\n\nActs 3:19. Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that YOUR SINS MAY BE BLOTTED out, WHEN (Heb 9:8; Luke 21:28; 1Peter 1:5) THE TIMES OF REFRESHING SHALL COME FROM THE PRESENCE OF THE LORD. 20. And HE SHALL SEND JESUS Christ, WHICH BEFORE WAS PREACHED unto you: 21. Whom the heaven must receive UNTIL THE TIMES OF RESTITUTION OF ALL THINGS, (Acts 1: 6-7; Luke 21:31) WHICH GOD HATH SPOKEN BY THE MOUTH OF ALL HIS HOLY PROPHETS SINCE THE WORLD BEGAN.\n\n\n........WHICH WAS CHRIST 2ND AND LAST COMING AND WAS ALSO \"THE CONSUMMATION\" OF THE NEW COVENANT (AKA THAT WHICH IS PERFECT IS COME\")\n\n\n1Peter 1:5 unto SALVATION READY TO BE REVEALED IN THE LAST TIME; (1 John 2:17-18: 1 Peter 1:5 & ch4:5,7,17) 7...AT THE APPEARING OF JESUS CHRIST:; …LK 21:28 et al\n\n\n.....AS WELL AS THE REDEMPTION THAT CHRIST PROMISED TO COME WITH THE DESTRUCTION OF JERUSALEM\n\n\nLK 21:28 20. And when ye shall see Jerusalem compassed with armies, ….. 22. For these be the days of vengeance, that ALL THINGS WHICH ARE WRITTEN MAY BE FULFILLED.…………. 27. And then shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory. 28. And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up YOUR HEADS; FOR YOUR REDEMPTION DRAWETH NIGH. ….. 32. Verily I say unto you, THIS GENERATION SHALL NOT PASS AWAY, TILL ALL BE FULFILLED.\n\n\nSECOND COMING Thou Fool! “I come quickly” so \"Hold fast till i come\"... NOT ...“in another 2000 yrs I might be coming soon any time now, so hold fast”!?! ...those that deny the second coming of Christ in that first generation are practicing a damnable heresy in denying the lord that bought them ……. If I said I am coming to your house in this generation when these things happen but no one knows the day or hour what fool would think I might be coming in 2000 years latter!?!? ..2 Tim 4: 4. And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be TURNED UNTO FABLES.\n\nEven in the OT the destruction of the temple and Jerusalam was said when the coming of the Lord would be to judge the world and put an end to sin et al…..\n\n\nThe Gospel message is the coming of Christ in judgment on the world JUST LIKE JESUS WAS and NOT the death burial and resurrection! Pauls’ comments of the gospel is not confined to verses 1-4 just because someone arbitrarily decided so!?!. Any one who preaches or teaches you that Death burial and resurrection is the gospel is either a ignorant unlearned, a fool or just a outright liar!!\n\n\n………………………..The gospel of the kingdom is NOT death burial and resurrection!?!.....However, the sign ( of the gospel which is death burial and resurrection Mat 12:38-40 ) is part of the city (gospel) and the sign belongs to the city (gospel) just like the sign of the gospel is part of the gospel but it is not the Gospel itself any more then any other sign is the city you are going to Nor is the sign the focus point of the journey unless your outside the city!?!?.this is why 1Cor 15 1-4 Paul states first but then goes on and spends the rest of that same chapter 15 talking about the gospel and same things he started speaking on back in CH 1:6!........Most folks do not understand the redemption message of the cross at all!?!............Redemption was NOT completed at the cross, Acts 3:19/Heb9:8 & Luke 21:28…( the cross was only the purchase price not the Redemption date)...............Just like in real-estate (Eph 1:14 et al) you put up the purchase price first and latter there is a redemption..........His coming is the gospel. 2Thess 2:1 Mat 24:14;Acts 20:25;2Tim 4:8 et al….\n\n\nTHEY DID NOT CRUCIFY HIM BECAUSE HE WAS PREACHING ABOUT THEM TO LIVE GOOD MORAL LIVES OR THAT HE CLAIMED TO DIE AND RISE ON THE THIRD DAY, THEY CRUCIFIED HIM WHEN HE TOLD THEM ABOUT HIS RETURN coming on the clouds MAT 26:64 (THAT IS THE GOSPEL CHRIST DIED FOR).......You cant love or keep the words of Christ much less preach the gospel of the kingdom when you either don’t know what it is and or deny its meaning (John 14:23 et al) the context is his second coming. The Pharisees could quote scripture and the did not deny what Moses and the prophets wrote they only denied the meaning and purpose and Christ coming his first and second......Mat 10:33;\n\n\n\n\n……….so many like to cherry pick Ch 15:verse 1-4 while ignoring the context of that very book and the rest of that very chapter and the very author you cite to make your case \n\n\nWay too many \"Christians\" living out Prov 26:12 professing to be ministers elders et al preaching and teaching the gospel of Christ when you do NOT even know what the Gospel of Christ IS!?!\n\n\n2Thess 2:11...................Most of you have absolutely no Idea what the gospel really is about what it teaches and as such have no business whatsoever trying to teach or preach when you do not even know what the gospel message is and or you deny it (2Tim 3:5/rom 1;16; 2Peter 2;1; Titus 1:16).\n\n\n\n\nThe book of Revelation offers us an interesting Theological dilemma. It states Rev 22:16. I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. Revelation also states it is “the true sayings” of Jesus and that it is “the testimony of Christ”. If this is not “the gospel of Jesus Christ” then what is it and should we consider it accursed testimony of an angel? If it is not to be considered accursed, then it cannot be some other gospel message then what was already given previously. However, this is the conundrum, for if this is the gospel message, then why do so few understand it? There is a possibility which few consider but is the overall thesis of this apology. The reason people don’t understand revelation is because they never understood what the gospel message was in the first place! In that case, where does that put those who claim it is not essential for salvation? Do you not find it quite curious that the most \"Personally\" given NT book By Jesus himself, is the least understood and given the least importance for Salvation in Christendom?....There are numerous preachers and bible exegetes but as Paul said “… I bear them record that they have a zeal of God, but not according to knowledge” . Most who profess the name of Christ are feeding on doctrines of devils and the ignorant.. There are, without question, many “qualified” teachers and scholars with many years of “dedication” and “solid education”. However, teachers, no matter how well lettered or numbered in degrees; if obtained from others; who are just as equally ignorant in such matters, are just “ blind leaders of the blind. And if the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the ditch.”..................\n\nIf you ask most people what the Good news or Gospel is they will probably tell you about the virgin birth or Christ death burial and resurrection. This would be rather humorous if it was not so sad considering that for the three and half years of Christ ministry he does not mention it very many times at all. However, Christ does spend a lot of time preaching out of the OT scriptures. Which is doubly ironic since it is from the OT scriptures that the word Gospel or Good news comes from…and the context has very little directly to do with death burial and resurrection…......................NEVER MIND 1 Cor 15:1-4..... BETTER Consider 2Cor 4: 3. But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost: 4. In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them…….People better wake up!?!\n\n\nThe FREE MS word doc file at that scribid site as well as here with this link at academia is a large file ~15mb\n\n\n\n\nhttps://www.scribd.com/doc/305366745/Revelation-the-First-Gospel-of-the-Kingdom\n\n\nbasically the same as the published book 978-1-4907-0590-3 (SC ISBN) www. amazon. com/Revelation-The-First-Gospel-Kingdom/dp/1490705902/\nso you can print out the sections and do the “workbook activities”\n\n\nhttps://www.academia.edu/23464127/REVELATION_THE_FIRST_GOSPEL_OF_THE_KINGDOM\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nDAY OF THE LORD”/ YEAR OF THE LORD - does NOT last for 24 hours!?!..Also means the day of resurrection & judgment do not last for one hour or one day either! They only being (NOT END) in a certain hour & on a certain 24 hour day ....\"SUN OF RIGHTEOUSNESS to arise\".....NOT..\"come & get (your new resurrected body) it while it is still hot, only 24 hours of solar power left\"!?!.........The resurrection and the judgment for all of mankind all began with the war of AD70 for everyone and we have been living in that day of the Lord \"the judgment\" now for almost 2000 years. To add insult to injury as the saying Goes you have no excuse for even the very secular term A.D. as in 2015AD means \"in \"the year of our Lord\" which is one of the designation for the day of the lord because it ONLY BEGINS on a certain day and a certain year it was never promised to end within 24 hours or the same year.....the last day refers to both the day of the lord which does not last for only one day as well as the very 24hour day that the last day day of the Lord/year of the Lord began!?!..........................\n\n\n\nThe idea that 1 cor 15:1-4 is \"the gospel in a nutshell\" demonstrates what Peter said about the woefully and or willfully ignorant and what they\n\n\nhttps://www.scribd.com/doc/308485609/Day-of-Lord-Not-24-Hours-I-Come-Quickly\n\nhttps://www.scribd.com/doc/305366745/Revelation-the-First-Gospel-of-the-Kingdom",
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      "body": "It is almost impossible to wrap one’s head around how something so pervasive, so widely accepted, most of the time without doubt or second thought can be so obviously damnable as the doctrine of the trinity that it can only be 2Thess 2:11”mocking” the wicked to their face.(1Kings 22:19-35…… YES JESUS DID SPECIFICALLY CLAIM TO BE GOD …..The problem is that even most Christians either do not know or do not care what GOD said about HIMSELF\n\n\nHere are SOME Key points but certainly NOT ALL the book is ~155pgs of scriptures and reasoning\n\nPART 4 & 5 HOW MANY OTHER GODS IS THERE FOR \"THE ONE GOD\" TO SPEAK WITH?!?... WHO WAS JESUS/GOD PRAYING TO and what about the voice at his baptism?..... Pgs 31-36........The real question should be ... How does having multiple different persons keep this one God/being/entity from praying to himself?! The Trinitarians want to have their cake and eat it too as the saying goes. On the one hand they need to say they only worship one indivisible God being/ entity but on the other hand they feel the need for some reason to keep Jesus or God from praying and talking to himself by dividing him up into different persons!?! It never occurs to them that that since there is only one indivisible God to pray too and Jesus is that indivisible God come in the flesh that he would need to talk to himself as to show us how to live, suffer, pray and die for our (and the flesh) benefit not his!?! . God as man ergo \"me\" making referencing to God the spirit only ergo \"you\".....There is only one God to pray too so if God is going to personally (in the flesh) show us how to pray to God, then he would need to do so by praying to himself. There is perfectly good coherent reasons for the one God to be praying to the one God (praying to himself).\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nBut, oh no, Trinitarians feel that if God talked to himself then that would be stupid at best and at worst make God schizophrenic or some other mental illness they fear. No sir, they will have none of it, they are on a “mission from god”. They are going to go out and save God from himself and any schizoid/mental illnesses that might “bedevil” God himself. What is even more ridiculous is that their solution to keep God from talking to himself (some mental illness they feel) is to evoke multiple person(s)-ality (deny it is a) disorder and insert it onto God’s “being” (call it one “entity”/ “The Godhead”) instead!?! Man is made in the image of God and when I see a man with multiple different personalities, in the way Trinitarians desperately need their god to be, we call it a disorder (demon possession to be more exact) not divine!?! .......................If the One God (in heaven who is a SPIRIT) wanted to validate that it is in fact himself (on the earth in human flesh) that has come in the flesh on the earth, then a voice out of heaven telling everyone that is Himself is perfectly consistent with a coherent agenda and methodology. The voice and witness to men does not come for God’s own sake but for man’s reassurance. (John 12:30 Jesus answered and said, THIS VOICE CAME NOT BECAUSE OF ME, BUT FOR YOUR SAKES) The one person God (who is omnipresent) in heaven as well as on the earth (at the same time) wanted everyone to know that it was indeed HIMSELF \"in the flesh\" Suddenly we can see that the only things “bedeviled” with “many demons” (and mental imperfections) are the Trinitarian’s logic and mindset itself\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nPg 78…….So while Trinitarians are quick to complain that God was not talking to himself at Christ baptism or in Gen “let us” they ignore the logical demands of their own theology! If Jesus is the ONE GOD in flesh and the Father is the SAME ONE GOD in heaven then Trinitarianism demands THE ONE GOD is talking to HIMSELF the same “being”! Claiming that God is multiple different persons as the reason for why God is not talking to himself (because God is three different “selfs”) only demonstrates that what they really worship is in fact not a ONE GOD who talks to himself but three different god “selfs”/ and they all talk to each other! When they speak about who God was talking and praying to, they are quick to say “the other person, NOT HIMSELF!” But if you ask them how many gods do they pray to then they will say “ONLY ONE”!?! They expect you to believe that those three different persons are THE ONE GOD-BEING” which is like calling three different cars “THE ONE VEHICLE” (they are text book examples of prov 26:12) This of course is all nonsense and just polytheism with different wrapping paper and a bow on top. (remember this is not one of those unscrupulous pyramid schemes this is a trapezoid with a solid foundation!?!) If Jesus is not the same ONE GOD that the father is then no amount of denials can overcome the fact that Trinitarians would still be talking and worshiping to different (and in this case) “ONE GODS”. If however, Jesus/father are the same ONE GOD then Trinitarianism cannot escape the fact that “THE ONE GOD” would still have to pray and or talk to HIMSELF at some point. Denials only solidify the fact that they do pray and or worship to three different gods; three different god “selfs” and the only place you can find a “being” that is three different persons is in the “logic” and heads of fools who think they worship one God only that does not talk to himself. ………… A tree is known by its fruit...In the beginning God said you will die; Satan came along and stated you will be more \"wise\".....God and His Children said God is one; Satan's children say no three or triune God is more \"wise\"...You are of your father the devil. Those who believe in God in three persons are noting but polytheist who insist and “confess” that they are true monotheist....like liars and thieves who insist and “confess” they are not lying and stealing...!?! All liars will have their part in the lake of fire. The fact you claim to be or not to be something does not make it true. You cannot believe in three persons of God if you believe in one God. Three different persons is by definition plurality of beings (godS not God) simply laying claim to it is \"beyond comprehension\" to explain or understand, but \"don't worry we “confess” that we are monotheist and are not polytheist\" is in fact just delusional.\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nHere is a diagram that graphically depicts how ONE PERSON who is God can Be everywhere at the same time... If a omnipresent God speaks from two different locations even at the same time why is that so amazing, why would Jesus need to be a ventriloquist?!? But perhaps you worship a small God who can only be and act [communicate] in one location at a time [in only one way at a time] People unwittingly put god into a box or environment for God to live in rather then God creating the box and environments for men and angels to live you. Obviously That part of the spirit of God which is connected to the flesh that was born into this world is connected to that flesh in a way that the rest of the same spirit of God is not. Ergo, the distinctions between the Father, Son and Holy spirit are distinctions in function and of circumstance/condition of the various parts of God not differences in person!?! \n\n\n\n\nPGg10... 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